2020 US election and its Impact on India Megathread

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How's the thing turning out in US ? Any half decent chance for Trump?
 

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Swing states are gonaa decide the fate.. Trump had no chance against half a decent democrat candidate.. But with sleepy Biden nothing is impossible. I doubt Biden can complete a sentence in one go :bplease:
 

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How's the thing turning out in US ? Any half decent chance for Trump?
Till Trump actually wins every opinion poll and prediction you see will be Biden-Harris will win by some insane margin.
 

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Till Trump actually wins every opinion poll and prediction you see will be Biden-Harris will win by some insane margin.
I have seen many conflicting reports now. Few days back i read an article which mentioned the support of two parties among Asian Americans (East Asians, South East asians, Indians, Middle eastern).
Back in 2016 it was overwhelming majority in support for democrat participant. Over 93% Indian American were in support of Democrats. For others also mostly around 90%.

However now there is a substantial shift : most of the community are not 60-40 or 70-30 split towards Democrats.

There are already talks that Trump has higher change to trump Bidden. Bidden was not able to say anything clear in the first debate. Whatever happens i hope that Trump trumps.
Even with the near universal online hate on him, Trump's tweets are managing similar no of likes as with other democrat peoples.
 

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I have seen many conflicting reports now. Few days back i read an article which mentioned the support of two parties among Asian Americans (East Asians, South East asians, Indians, Middle eastern).
Back in 2016 it was overwhelming majority in support for democrat participant. Over 93% Indian American were in support of Democrats. For others also mostly around 90%.

However now there is a substantial shift : most of the community are not 60-40 or 70-30 split towards Democrats.

There are already talks that Trump has higher change to trump Bidden. Bidden was not able to say anything clear in the first debate. Whatever happens i hope that Trump trumps.
Even with the near universal online hate on him, Trump's tweets are managing similar no of likes as with other democrat peoples.
It was the same in 2016 also, Globalist media and Twitter trends would have you believe that Hillary would be Prez.
But Trump surprise grabbed everyone's Pu Shi in the end.
 

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It was the same in 2016 also, Globalist media and Twitter trends would have you believe that Hillary would be Prez.
But Trump surprise grabbed everyone's Pu Shi in the end.
It was not the same in 2016. Most of Asian American communities were more than 90% pro Demos.
However now they are from mid 50 to 70-75% Pro demo only.
You can see a no of Asian American members arising in Republican party since last 2 years.

One thing media did not highlight last time was Black support for Republicans. Every one try to frame Blacks as one unit and totally pro Democrats. However over 37% blacks voted for Republicans in 2016. That's way higher than a small minority.
If they are still around that no (which i am sure they still are) and if they managed to reach around 40% than no way Democrats are coming back.
Even 28% Latinos voted for Republicans in 2016 when there was big issue of making wall on border and stop illegal immigration from Mexican side.
 

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As I was going through 4chan, some interesting stuff popped up, I don't know how it's relevant but there's some interesting co-relation between Google search trends and American elections outcome, from the trends it seems Trump is going to sweep sleepy joe.
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A post-debate focus group of undecided voters shows that Kamala Harris faces an uphill battle
Her debate performance didn’t go over well with a mostly male focus group of 13 undecided voters.

Polling expert Frank Luntz convened a focus group of undecided voters after Tuesday night’s vice presidential debate, and all but one of the participants declared Vice President Mike Pence the winner.

Nine of the 13 voters were men. But many of them, both women and men, described Pence in positive terms, such as “presidential,” and “calm, cool, and collected.” When asked to sum up Sen. Kamala Harris’s performance on the debate stage, however, the voters said she seemed “evasive,” “nervous,” “snarky,” “rehearsed,” “abrasive,” “unsteady,” “rigid,” and “unpresidential.”

Some partisans are often skeptical that the voters in such focus groups actually are “undecided.” Though America is more polarized than ever, a relatively small number of last-minute deciders could indeed swing the outcome of the election.


Pence dodged almost every question, instead deftly redirecting the conversation to Republican talking points on subjects ranging from religious freedom to support for law enforcement, and sought to falsely portray the president as a moderate. It was about as good of a performance as he could have delivered, considering that President Trump’s path to reelection appears to be narrowing, and the sentiments in the focus group reflected that.

Harris’s biggest success was in landing blows against the Trump administration’s botched response to the coronavirus pandemic. She evaded a question about whether a Biden administration would pack the Supreme Court with more justices — but unlike in Pence’s case, her attempt to change the subject raised a red flag in the focus group.


Several voters said they were frustrated that she didn’t answer the question.

“I didn’t really get answers,” John, an Ohio voter, said. “Packing the Supreme Court — these are all issues you want to know what they’re going to do. So, yes, it is very important to me.”

Another voter, Tom from Nevada, said he had an open mind about the candidates going into the debate, but Harris’s refusal to take a position on court-packing was a big reason he’s now leaning toward casting his ballot for Trump.

Both Democrats and Republicans have been pressuring the Biden campaign to take a stance on the subject of court-packing. But the disproportionate criticism of Harris’s attempt to evade the question suggests that, as the first woman of color on the debate stage in a general presidential election, sexism may have played a role.

Harris’s team had tried to prepare for the possibility that she would be perceived differently as a Black woman. They researched the trope of the “angry Black woman,” which, my colleague Li Zhou predicted, might be something that “media outlets and President Donald Trump may attempt to project onto the vice presidential candidate.” Trump, for his part, has called Harris “nasty” in the past in reference to her question of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings.

An Ohio voter named Kimberly, the lone Black woman in the group, pointed out the discrepancy in how the participants were talking about Harris as compared to Biden and Trump in another meeting after last week’s debate.

“I think we have to understand the difference of how we equate male and female,” she said. “Last week, we saw Mr. Biden and President Trump make all types of facial expressions and that was never an issue on last week’s call. Now that we have a woman, I believe that people are inadvertently looking at her a certain way.”

It seems Harris f***ed up
 

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A post-debate focus group of undecided voters shows that Kamala Harris faces an uphill battle
Her debate performance didn’t go over well with a mostly male focus group of 13 undecided voters.

Polling expert Frank Luntz convened a focus group of undecided voters after Tuesday night’s vice presidential debate, and all but one of the participants declared Vice President Mike Pence the winner.

Nine of the 13 voters were men. But many of them, both women and men, described Pence in positive terms, such as “presidential,” and “calm, cool, and collected.” When asked to sum up Sen. Kamala Harris’s performance on the debate stage, however, the voters said she seemed “evasive,” “nervous,” “snarky,” “rehearsed,” “abrasive,” “unsteady,” “rigid,” and “unpresidential.”

Some partisans are often skeptical that the voters in such focus groups actually are “undecided.” Though America is more polarized than ever, a relatively small number of last-minute deciders could indeed swing the outcome of the election.


Pence dodged almost every question, instead deftly redirecting the conversation to Republican talking points on subjects ranging from religious freedom to support for law enforcement, and sought to falsely portray the president as a moderate. It was about as good of a performance as he could have delivered, considering that President Trump’s path to reelection appears to be narrowing, and the sentiments in the focus group reflected that.

Harris’s biggest success was in landing blows against the Trump administration’s botched response to the coronavirus pandemic. She evaded a question about whether a Biden administration would pack the Supreme Court with more justices — but unlike in Pence’s case, her attempt to change the subject raised a red flag in the focus group.


Several voters said they were frustrated that she didn’t answer the question.

“I didn’t really get answers,” John, an Ohio voter, said. “Packing the Supreme Court — these are all issues you want to know what they’re going to do. So, yes, it is very important to me.”

Another voter, Tom from Nevada, said he had an open mind about the candidates going into the debate, but Harris’s refusal to take a position on court-packing was a big reason he’s now leaning toward casting his ballot for Trump.

Both Democrats and Republicans have been pressuring the Biden campaign to take a stance on the subject of court-packing. But the disproportionate criticism of Harris’s attempt to evade the question suggests that, as the first woman of color on the debate stage in a general presidential election, sexism may have played a role.

Harris’s team had tried to prepare for the possibility that she would be perceived differently as a Black woman. They researched the trope of the “angry Black woman,” which, my colleague Li Zhou predicted, might be something that “media outlets and President Donald Trump may attempt to project onto the vice presidential candidate.” Trump, for his part, has called Harris “nasty” in the past in reference to her question of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings.

An Ohio voter named Kimberly, the lone Black woman in the group, pointed out the discrepancy in how the participants were talking about Harris as compared to Biden and Trump in another meeting after last week’s debate.

“I think we have to understand the difference of how we equate male and female,” she said. “Last week, we saw Mr. Biden and President Trump make all types of facial expressions and that was never an issue on last week’s call. Now that we have a woman, I believe that people are inadvertently looking at her a certain way.”

It seems Harris f***ed up
There is a behavioral issue with both Bidden and Harris. Both turns abusive, abrasive in their talks. Both forgets the main policy points and turn toward the traditional 'Repub are Racist' jibe whenever they are losing any argument.

Mike Pence seems to be best among the 4 Presidential and VP candidates. He should run for Presidency in next term. Is there any limit on VP also to run as President?
 

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Mike Pence seems to be best among the 4 Presidential and VP candidates. He should run for Presidency in next term. Is there any limit on VP also to run as President?
1. Mike pence was governor of Indiana before becoming VP. He is well versed in politics unlike Trump.
2. No limits on VP to run as president. George H.W bush was VP for 8 years before becoming President.
 

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There is a behavioral issue with both Bidden and Harris. Both turns abusive, abrasive in their talks. Both forgets the main policy points and turn toward the traditional 'Repub are Racist' jibe whenever they are losing any argument.

Mike Pence seems to be best among the 4 Presidential and VP candidates. He should run for Presidency in next term. Is there any limit on VP also to run as President?
Pence was given VP ticket, to keep the Republican Bible Belt vote intact. He was a conservative TV political commentator before he came into politics.
 

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B I G, there were rumours rounding up on 4chan about something like that was going to happen, it also stated that there might be arrest of Obama/Hillary/Sleepy Joe, far fetched (arrest part), but something BIG is coming up! There are some rumours about Israel but i will wait for it to happen.
 

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Its not like democrats don't have pro India people. We have to identify and fund them, do whatever it takes to make things happen. We cant rely on off chances.

US is an important partner and we have to cultivate good relations with them regardless of which party is in power and that means "Money". We have to exert our influence through our diaspora and goras too, money is key. Put money in hollywood, like chinks are doing. Put money in businesses. If americans know they can make money with you, then they are your best friends.
You need lots of money to spend money like Xi & Co.Problem is we need to be at least 3rd largest economy before we can do all that.Trump is not reliable.He will embrace you one day and wont hesitate to kick you the next day.Biden is incoherent and almost senile.Harris looks upon her Indian roots as a liability so she desperately pushes her black roots.Ever since Biden was persuaded by DNC to go for Kamala as his running mate Kamala has discovered she has South Asian - not Indian - roots as well.Gullible Indian-Americans will go gaga and vote for Biden when they hear Indian sounding Kamala as VP despite her hawkish unfriendly India comments.I am hoping Biden's extreme left leanings and senility will scare off 95% of white Americans.
 

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Interesting thread on sorros anti india angle,

@ezsasa can you add your input on this






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But that was not all. Soros & Sonia Gandhi aimed to destroy the social fabric of India as well. An extra-constitutional National Advisory Council of Urban Naxals was set up to attack the civilizational roots of Indian society: Hindu sanskriti itself, with unprecedented savagery.



Here is the current candidate for Vice President of the United States, Kamala Harris, with her old friend Alexander Soros. Is he, too, a "concerned world citizen" in the mold of his father George?
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Soros has already declared open war on India under Narendra Modi. Among his minions is Harsh Mander, who incited violence during the anti-Hindu pogroms by Jihadis in Delhi this year. Another interesting character in Kamala Harris' retinue is her Press Secretary Sabrina Singh.

 
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