Indian Army for better frontline infrastructure

Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by nrj, Dec 23, 2012.

  1. sorcerer

    sorcerer Senior Member Veteran Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Messages:
    14,969
    Likes Received:
    38,976
    Location:
    India
    India prepares to face nuclear attacks, plans underground bunkers in major cities for protection against WMDs: Report

    India is reportedly planning to create underground control rooms in major Indian cities that could secure data and communication against an attack using Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs) such as nuclear, chemical and biological.

    According to a report in ‘Sputnik’, Delhi Police has identified two locations in India’s national capital for the first phase of the initiative.

    Quoting its sources in Delhi Police, the report says that senior officials and concerned departments are in the process of preparing the initial plan for setting up an underground data control room, which will be submitted for government approval soon.

    “A recently held security review meeting discussed the necessity of secure data communication networks center. The idea is at an initial stage. We are preparing a detailed report then we would be able to share details only at a later stage,” a senior Delhi Police official was quoted as saying by ‘Sputnik’.


    http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/ind...jor-cities-for-protection-against-wmds-352945
     
    Illusive and abingdonboy like this.
  2. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

    Joined:
    May 26, 2010
    Messages:
    31,124
    Likes Received:
    40,323
    Location:
    BHARAT, INDIA, HINDUSTHAN
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
    ====>

    [​IMG]
    Material (BP Steel) :

    BP Steel is test and approved by TBRL Chandigarh under Ministry of Defence Lab or any other international Lab. BP Steel plate should be heat treated to develop maximum resistance to penetration. The tenderer should be submit the BP Steel manufacturer material test report of each plate with the mentioning of plate number and lot number

    Protection Level

    Each Plate is able to provide following protection Level-
    1) 7.62 x 51mm (SLR) distance from 10 meters.
    2) 7.62 x 39mm (AK-47) distance from 10 meters.
    3) Splinter of Grenade No. 36 HE from 10 meters.

    Height

    Can be at user demands

    =========

    Better infrastructure exists which are portable, But still risking this way is not justified, Army must inspect and pin point out lacking defenses in major outposts and must give top priority to upgrade them.
     
  3. tharun

    tharun Patriot Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,110
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    Location:
    Telangana/India
    1st pic can it be stable on tree..? How much protection can it can give to soldiers?
    3rd pic where is this located..looks like too much of vegetation...and there is a gate on right side what is that for...?
     
  4. tharun

    tharun Patriot Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,110
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    Location:
    Telangana/India
    @Kunal Biswas I think we need lego-style armor blocks and can easily reinforce our tin sheds and open watch like these
    [​IMG]
    with these and protect our forces..it can with stand 14.5mm rounds
    [​IMG]
     
  5. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

    Joined:
    May 26, 2010
    Messages:
    31,124
    Likes Received:
    40,323
    Location:
    BHARAT, INDIA, HINDUSTHAN
    It surely can stand, But its not in our country, Better look what is available within country ..

    [​IMG]

    The best available raw material remains cement and bricks ( If available ), Towards front-line its hard to transport such raw material and workers, All is meant to be done by soldiers with given tools and material.

    In such a case, Complete modules are best assembled at field transported by air or mules.

    ================

    [​IMG]

    PAK army had such examples which were transported via mules and assembled in our area ..
     
  6. Project Dharma

    Project Dharma meh Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2016
    Messages:
    4,839
    Likes Received:
    10,772
    Location:
    United States
    @Kunal Biswas can we fix the spelling of infrastructure in the title please?
     
    Kunal Biswas likes this.
  7. kstriya

    kstriya Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2015
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    439
    Is this a reused tank gun? If yes a brilliant idea to use it as part of shelter or bunker in border areas. We can use all decommissioned tank and get some safe enclosure for our troops. Some innovative thinking can do wonders.
     

    Attached Files:

  8. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

    Joined:
    May 26, 2010
    Messages:
    31,124
    Likes Received:
    40,323
    Location:
    BHARAT, INDIA, HINDUSTHAN
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    BSF pill boxes and bunkers along Pakisthani Border ..
     
    tejas warrior and Prashant12 like this.
  9. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

    Joined:
    May 26, 2010
    Messages:
    31,124
    Likes Received:
    40,323
    Location:
    BHARAT, INDIA, HINDUSTHAN
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Iraqi are using their outdated T-55 in very innovative way, In our case we can do the same for static strong hold along our defense ..
     
    kstriya likes this.
  10. tharun

    tharun Patriot Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,110
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    Location:
    Telangana/India
    where are these bunkers located at..? i mean indo-pak or LOC.? I'm sick of watching these tin sheds...a anti-tank guided missile will wipe it off completely..We need to reinforce with concrete immediately
    Where does our 40$ billion goes for...
     
  11. Zulfiqar Khan

    Zulfiqar Khan Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2016
    Messages:
    422
    Likes Received:
    183
    Those look pretty vulnerable; even a bullet would be able to penetrate that.
     
  12. India22

    India22 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2016
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    319
    Actually using tank turrets as fixed pillbox is pretty old idea.

    [​IMG]

    WW2 German Tank turret.
     
    tejas warrior and kstriya like this.
  13. India22

    India22 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2016
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    319
    If we cant build this type pill box

    [​IMG]

    We should go for WW1 era trench system.
     
    Adioz and tejas warrior like this.
  14. kstriya

    kstriya Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2015
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    439
    I feel its a good idea to use decommissioned battle tanks to build pill boxes at active borders with Porkistan. The battle tank steel plates can stop all light, medium and heavy caliber rounds used by porkies and also protect from mortar fragments. We can have a design to optimize the use of the turret and safety of the pill box by integrating it with a underground bunker. We should have a big stock of T72's or earlier battle tanks available.

    We get tank plates used as blades to shear metal in industries, when it can be recycled why not reuse.
     
    Project Dharma and India22 like this.
  15. India22

    India22 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2016
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    319
    Good idea but they require engine to rotate and fire. It will require a lot of fuel to run generators. I would say bring in Decommissioned tanks and use them like this way turret down position

    [​IMG]

    We have many Vijayantas, T 54, T 55 and Centurions in reserve I think.

    Or this

    [​IMG]

    Protection from sniper, mortar, ATGM, MMG and artillery.
     
  16. tharun

    tharun Patriot Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,110
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    Location:
    Telangana/India
    Not good idea it's a useless idea...since they cannot move..it will be easy prey for mortar rounds...
     
  17. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

    Joined:
    May 26, 2010
    Messages:
    31,124
    Likes Received:
    40,323
    Location:
    BHARAT, INDIA, HINDUSTHAN
    Their are many tiers of defense lines along LOC, Such designs are best for third tier ..

     
  18. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

    Joined:
    May 26, 2010
    Messages:
    31,124
    Likes Received:
    40,323
    Location:
    BHARAT, INDIA, HINDUSTHAN
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Few more examples which can be better with proper supply of right tools and mateiral..
     
    tejas warrior likes this.
  19. tharun

    tharun Patriot Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,110
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    Location:
    Telangana/India
    1st pic where is at that one...means the road is on our side our POK
    2nd pic Why soldiers are standing in line near fence?
    3rd pic Why the hell out don't provide good protection atleast bunkers?
     
  20. Adioz

    Adioz शक्तिः दुर्दम्येच्छाशक्त्याः आगच्छति Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2015
    Messages:
    1,414
    Likes Received:
    2,635
    Location:
    Bottom of the Andaman sea planting mines for PLAN
    Trenches are susceptible to Mortars and plunging fire.

    @Kunal Biswas , do we change the pillboxes' position often? Or are they static? Also, i suspect OPs regularly do change there position. Does that happen often?

    If we do keep them static, could we not go for concrete bunkers. I am thinking Nazi-style bunkers like these:-
    [​IMG]
    Are they not cost effective? Or is there some other reason?

    Also, why are something like HESCO bastions not used?
    [​IMG]
     
    Kunal Biswas and SilentKiller like this.

Share This Page