Indian Military Trucks

[vram]

Well i believe the requirement is for trucks to serve as TEL vehicles, in such a case the only domestic vehicle we already have certified for the stresses a heavy missile can exert during launch is the TATA 12X12 which has been certified as the launch platform
i believe we should go with MAZ or MZKT/VOLAT for now as these are by far the most capable deployed heavy missile launch trucks available the world over today. simultaneously we should try to absorb some of the tech to build our own MAZ analogue like china has done with the Wanshan TEL wich is again based on a MAZ design.

I have a question here.Am not knowledgable in this subject. But what is preventing us from developing these heavy truck requiremnts.After all TATA appears to be all most there. the govt can form a partnership to fund half or more of the research and the actual product development and refinement can be done by the TATA.the general trend is that the Tata or any private comp should get this done faster than the psu.isnt this hiw a lot of american defense product developments are happening ?

 

[BangersAndMash]

Currently Indian Army uses over 40 000 Stallion trucks of all variants.

How long have they been in service for?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Bellarusian MZKT-74135

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I believe since 1997..

How long have they been in service for?

 

[bengalraider]

I have a question here.Am not knowledgable in this subject. But what is preventing us from developing these heavy truck requiremnts.After all TATA appears to be all most there. the govt can form a partnership to fund half or more of the research and the actual product development and refinement can be done by the TATA.the general trend is that the Tata or any private comp should get this done faster than the psu.isnt this hiw a lot of american defense product developments are happening ?

If the government assures private players that they will buy trucks from them, there is no reason why these manufacturers will not buy, beg borrow, steal and develop technology capable of building the most powerful TELS's . however there is no assurance for any domestic defense purchase by the MOD hence the hesitation in investment.

 

[pmaitra]

Along with MZKT, don't forget Almaz-Antey for TEL.

 

[SPIEZ]

Along with MZKT, don't forget Almaz-Antey for TEL.

Russian engines aren't very powerful are they?

 

[ashicjose]

Bellarusian MZKT-74135

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I believe since 1997..

:shocked:

I am afraid may be it's a overshoot !!!

 

[bengalraider]

the best TEL maker there is
MAZ

MAZ-7917 with TOPOL ICBM

MAZ TEL with Scud

 

[pmaitra]

Russian engines aren't very powerful are they?

Mating a different engine shouldn't be a problem. Even the UAZ jeeps these days come with Toyota engines. You get the robust Russian body and a reliable and fuel efficient Japanese engine - the best of both worlds.

 

[pmaitra]

Tata Trucks donated to Afghan Army by India

Read the entire blog: Online Diary

 

[bengalraider]

Guys does anyone have any ideas as to why Mumbai airport operates 2 different types of Crash tenders? It is pretty odd, no?


Both taken in 2010:

Rosenbaur Panther

Oshkosh Strikerâ„¢ 3000

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...nJ7n0F_tQIAoelGIw&sig2=skQplG4OHPjpYM9EJ7uMLQ

And you can't say one is replceing the other-the Strikers only arrived in 2010 and the Panthers the year or two before (so both spanking new).

Prolly two tenders a few months apart with the second one going in favor of oshkosh which may indicate that someone passed the rosenbaur offer from the previous tender onto oshkosh, thereby letting them how much to quote

 

[Defcon 1]

NEW DELHI: Tata Motors has offered its latest vehicles to the Defence Ministry to replace the controversial Tatra trucks, used so far to carry missiles such as Agni and Prithvi.

The procurement of Tatra trucks has been put on hold pending a CBI probe into bribery allegations by former Army chief Gen V K Singh.

Tata Motors will make a presentation before Defence Ministry's Director General (Acquisition) S B Agnihotri about its latest vehicles offered by it to replace Tatra trucks for carrying missile systems of the armed forces such as BrahMos and Pinaka, Defence Ministry sources told PTI here.

The Ministry has already been offered trucks by Russian and Belarusian firms for replacing the Tatras including the Volat trucks from Belarus which are used to carry strategic missile systems of the Russian armed forces.

Due to the virtual ban on the procurement of Tatras, several key projects of the Army and the IAF have been put on hold including procurement of land-based version of BrahMos supersonic cruise missile for the Army and the IAF and the Pinaka rockets launchers for the land forces.

If the proposals made by these firms are accepted, they would be put under trials for being integrated with the missile systems, they said.

Already, a significant number of Tata trucks are in service with the armed forces but they are in light and medium vehicle category.

More than 7,000 Tatra trucks are in service with the armed forces and after the controversy in March last year, their repair and maintenance have also become an issue in the defence forces.

Last March, Gen V K Singh had levelled allegations that he was offered a bribe of Rs 14 crore by a retired Lt Gen to clear a file relating to the procurement of over 600 of these trucks.

Tata Motors offers vehicles to replace Tatra trucks - Economic Times

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Any pics of the trucks offered by the TATA's........

 

[pmaitra]

Any pics of the trucks offered by the TATA's........

Maybe one of those listed here: http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/military-multimedia/22782-lorries-trucks-prime-movers.html

 

[Payeng]

I am not a big time fan for TATA products but I welcome a desi company taking the responsibility of land transportation for strategic assets, more over BEML Tatra had some limitations in maximum axle and load weight capacity, say Brahmos missile system could be 4 missile canister instead of 3 in a single vehicle, desi companies might offer flexibility in number of axle and maximum weight capacity plus variation of length and breth of the vehicle, single vehicle transportation for Agni missile system instead of the current Tractor-trailer/ road-rail arrangements, currently Mahindra is new in HMV segment but they seems to have better grip of market trends, Ashok-Leyland got some better rep in HMV segment.

 

[Payeng]

Tata 8x8 Container (Missile Carrier)

The Tata LPTA 3138 8x8 is a multi-purpose vehicle for various all terrain applications like Command & control unit, Missile carrier, MHC Radar Station, Missile firing platform, etc.

The vehicle is equipped with Anti-locking Braking System (ABS), Central Tyre Inflation System (CTIS), Auxiliary Gear box, with high & low speed mode and differential locks system.

Tata Motors has prepared the EW Command post on LPTA 3138 8x8, in collaboration with its group company Tata Power – SED. The EW Command post is a EMP Hardened MIL Grade shelter for mobile application designed as per MIL-STD-907, MIL-STD-285 intended for Electronic Warfare application.

Vehicle specification of the Tata 8x8 Pinaka Container:

Application
"¢ Pinaka missile system Carrier

Mobility
"¢ Power to weight Ratio of 13.4 Hp/Ton
"¢ 375 Hp @ 2100 RPM
"¢ 1550 Nm @ 1300 to 1400 Rpm
"¢ Manual transmission system with 10 forward and 3 reverse gears
"¢ Gradeability of 30 Deg under full load
"¢ Max Speed of 80 KMPH in top gear
"¢ trench crossing ability of 2000 mm
"¢ Vertical Step climbing ability of 500 mm
"¢ Fordability of 1200 mm with stop and 1400 mm with pass
"¢ Ground clearance of 400 mm
"¢ Payload of 18 Tons

Utility
"¢ One Platform Many Variants: Pinaka Missile Carrier container
"¢ HMV 8x8 with MHC
"¢ Command and control Unit and Launcher vehicle for Rockets

Crew Capacity and comfort level
"¢ Driver and co Driver plus 3 Person on Drivers Cabin
"¢ HVAC Climate controlled tiltable cabin.




Courtesy: Team-Bhp.com

 

[Payeng]

Tata 12x12 Prahaar Missile Carrier:

The Tata LPTA 5252-12 X12 is specifically meant for missile launcher cum carrier applications like integration of Prahar, BrahMos and Nirbhay Missiles, in close coordination with R&DE – DRDO.

The vehicle is equipped with Anti-Locking Braking System (ABS), Central Tyre Inflation System (CTIS), Auxiliary Gear box with High and low speed mode and differential locks system. The vehicle is operable normally in 12x8 mode and can be driven in 12x10 and 12x12 modes as per terrain requirements.

Vehicle specification of the Tata 12x12 Prahaar Missile Carrier:

Application:
"¢ Prahaar Missile System Carrier and Launcher Platform
"¢ Brahmos Missile carrier

Mobility:
"¢ Power to weight ratio of 10.1 Hp/Ton
"¢ 525 Hp @ 1800 rpm BSIII
"¢ 2000 Nm @ 1200 RPM
"¢ Automatic Transmission system with 7 forward and one reverse gear
"¢ Gradability of 30 deg under full payload
"¢ Max Speed of 80 kmph in top gear
"¢ Ditch crossing ability of 2000 mm
"¢ Vertical Step climbing ability of 600 mm
"¢ Fordability of 1200 mm with stop and 1400 mm with pass
"¢ Ground clearance of 400 mm
"¢ Payload of 33 Tons

Utility:
"¢ One Platform, Many variants: Prahaar Missile system Carrier
"¢ Launcher vehicle and command and control unit for various missile systems

Crew Capacity and comfort level:
"¢ Driver and co driver plus 3 person in drivers Cabin
"¢ HVAC Climate controlled tiltable cabin

Courtesy: Team-Bhp.com

 

[Payeng]

Tata 8x8 Water Purification system:

The Mobile Water decontamination system on the LPTA 3138 8x8 has been developed in collaboration with M/s WEW (Germany). The aim to provide a solution for the drinking water contamination problem, faced by Armed Forces & Paramilitary forces, at disaster struck areas. This application is also apt for State Governments and various Municipal agencies, to tackle the issue of supplying drinking water to remote villages. This water decontamination system is capable of purifying the most impure forms of water and make it portable through Reverse Osmosis (RO) process.


Vehicle specification of the Tata 8x8 Water Purification system:
Application
"¢ 7 KL Water Decontamination System
"¢ Reverse Osmosis Purification Technology
"¢ Capable of Purifying any form of impure water including one with Arsenic poisoning

Mobility
"¢ Power to weight ratio of 13.4 Hp/Ton
"¢ 375 Hp @ 2100 RPM
"¢ 1548 Nm @ 1200 to 1400 RPM
"¢ Manual Transmission system with 10 Forward and 2 reverse gears
"¢ Gradeability of 25 Deg under full load
"¢ Max Speed of 80 kmph in top gear
"¢ trench crossing ability of 2000 mm
"¢ Vertical Step climbing ability of 600 mm
"¢ Fordability of 1200 mm with stop and 1400 mm with pass
"¢ Ground clearance of 350 mm
"¢ Payload of 17 Ton
"¢ Range of 600 km at GVW

Utility
"¢ One Platform Many Variants : 7 KL WEW Water decontamination system
"¢ HMV 8x8 with MHC
"¢ Command and control Unit and Launcher vehicle for Rockets

Crew Capacity and comfort level
"¢ Driver and co Driver plus 3 persons on Drivers Cabin
"¢ World Class HVAC Climate controlled tiltable cabin


Courtesy: Team-Bhp.com

 

[Payeng]

Tata 6x6 7kl Refueler:

The Tata LPTA 2038 6x6 Refueller has been developed for the Indian Armed forces, Paramilitary, State police, DPSUs, State Government & Municipal Agencies and the Aviation industry. The vehicle has already been trial evaluated by the Indian Armed forces for various applications like Common Gun Tower, HMV with Material Handling crane, Multi Barrel Rocket launcher GRAD BM 21, etc.

The vehicle is available with both manual and automatic transmission. The vehicle has Anti-locking Braking System (ABS), Central Tyre Inflation System (CTIS), Auxiliary Gear box with high and low speed mode and differential locks system.

Tata Motors has developed a demountable fuel bowser on the LPTA 2038 6x6 HMV, in collaboration with M/s WEW (Germany), specifically for all terrain applications and usage by various aviation sector agencies. This application is also apt for defence purposes, as this demountable concept is specially made for fuel storage & dispensing, in varied terrains.

Vehicle specification of the Tata 6x6 7kl Refueler:

Application
"¢ 7 KL Refueller System
"¢ CGT 6x6
"¢ HMV with MHC 6x6
"¢ GRAD BM 21 Rocket Launcher
"¢ Tactical communication system

Mobility
"¢ Power to weight ratio of 17.4 Hp / Ton
"¢ 375 Hp @ 2100 RPM
"¢ Automatic Transmission system with 7 forward and 01 reverse gears
"¢ Manual Transmission system with 9 forward and 1 Reverse gear (Automatic transmission system optional)
"¢ Gradeability of 25 Deg under full load
"¢ Max Speed of 80 kmph in top gear
"¢ Trench crossing ability of 900 mm
"¢ Vertical step climbing ability of 500 mm
"¢ Fordability of 500 mm
"¢ Ground clearance of 360 mm
"¢ Payload of 10.5 Tons
"¢ Range of 500 km at GVW

Utility
"¢ One platform, Many Variants : 7 KL Refueler System
"¢ CGT 6x6
"¢ HMV with MHC 6x6
"¢ GRAD BM 21 Rocket Launcher
"¢ Tactical communication system

Crew Capacity and comfort level
"¢ Driver and co Driver plus 3 Person on Drivers Cabin
"¢ HVAC Climate controlled tiltable cabin.

Courtesy: Team-Bhp.com

 

[pmaitra]

@Payeng is in full form today. Great going man! Cheers!