Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

[captscooby81]

No we didn't had flat line for entire country it was for all states apart from MH KL CG and Delhi . go and check PIB press release where govt kept warning all these 4 states to bring the virus spread under control and they all kept doing what they felt is best and let it run through and now we are seeing the country suffer collectively .

the virus mutated and now its showing its full infection power across the country .

No country on this earth again saying No country on this earth can handle a jump from 18k cases to 250k cases in just 14 days . Every system will collapse . govt can anticipate a 2nd wave of 200k cases from the peak of 1st wave but not 500k cases and no one can prepare for such a spike .

Doctors are already exhausted every single doctor from different speciality are only doing Covid duty imagine one doctor in ICU running whole night for 10-12 patients and morning he drop 4 of those 10 to mortuary and add another 4 new patients .

Look at delhi i know people are rejoicing seeing cases reaching 30k in UP but just look at this mayhem in delhi . Yesterday they tested 80k and whats the positive 25k . its close to 35 % positive rate . No medical infrastructure can handle such rate .

Hospitals are going to run out of oxygen because you are adding more new patients every day than the ones already admitted how are you going to meet such demand suddenly . Lets say they install oxygen tank for 300 patients today what if delhi keeps reporting positive cases like today and they may need tank for 600 patients in one week down the line can they replace the tank ?

The only way this virus spread can be stopped is by not getting oxygen, not getting remdivisir, not getting fabiflu and not getting positive on time . Its avoiding to get positive . Wear a mask, Wash your hands and stop the spread .

People are least bothered about the last one as its the toughest one to do and the onus lies with them . So simply blame the govt and administration saying you are not prepared .

Adding to what you said; we had almost a flat line for nearly 3 months then there was a surge of 10X in 20 days. No infra is going to keep up with this. And if anyone thinks so; He is in his socialist lalaland

 

[Narasimh]

Or is it the people of india who given a fuck about wearing a mask and fucked it up from December to March ? Govt can prepare for 2nd wave but not for a double mutation and stupidity of common man who refused to wear a mask and behave responsibiliy .

you expect govt to come and check every one whether he is wearing mask below chin or below the nose or just using it as hanky to wipe his sweat .

No doubt general public behaviour was irresponsible but it's the govt who has the scientists, the machinery, the research institutes, the money. They should have used the time to ramp up the infrastructure and sensitise people that we are not out of the woods yet untill vaccinated. There was complacency and govt cannot escape the blame. Govt does not have to check everybody but can do sero surveys at regular intervals to track the status.. can't shrug it off man. And just so that ppl start insinuating of me being a congressi or aapiya, let me state clearly I am not. I am a modi supporter. But truth cannot be denied, we fucked up.

 

[ketaki]

i was connected via VPN(USA) and opened twitter...searched for COVID-19 India...

as usual the liberandus, muslim-christians living in india, foreign correspondents of BBC, CNN etc. all are painting anti-modi stories only...meanwhile best CM, handsome rahul baba nowhere in picture

cant blame them...they are dogs who's dharma is to bark...when modi missed his 'raj-dharma' of 'cleansing' such chrisslamo-liberal leeches

 

[DownWithCCP]

No doubt general public behaviour was irresponsible but it's the govt who has the scientists, the machinery, the research institutes, the money. They should have used the time to ramp up the infrastructure and sensitise people that we are not out of the woods yet untill vaccinated. There was complacency and govt cannot escape the blame. Govt does not have to check everybody but can do sero surveys at regular intervals to track the status.. can't shrug it off man. And just so that ppl start insinuating of me being a congressi or aapiya, let me state clearly I am not. I am a modi supporter. But truth cannot be denied, we fucked up.

To put it simply people are responsible for the current situation because they behaved irresponsibly and thought that they got away with the virus lightly after the first wave.
The government is responsible because they did not anticipate and were extremely complacent in their approach, faulty policies when it came to vaccine distribution and not planning and stocking essentials for the next wave.

 

[captscooby81]

Yes i like the last sentence you wrote " WE FUCKED IT UP" its collective failure of all . now lets get all our hands together and come out of it collectively . Do we have a choice or its all hands down for all of us ?

I am following IIT professor who is running a prediction model of cases in the last two week twice his model has gone wrong which shows that the 2nd wave is completely a different game which even you can't predict its peak with your all available modelling options .

I think we have a choice , Get the mask on stop the spread let the ones infected get treated and let the vaccination drive run .

i am saying again and again there is no vaccine shortage even today in most states . TN today also reporting pathetic vaccination numbers , Whom are we going to blame when 3rd wave comes the govt or people who are refused to get vaccinated when its available for them ?

No doubt general public behaviour was irresponsible but it's the govt who has the scientists, the machinery, the research institutes, the money. They should have used the time to ramp up the infrastructure and sensitise people that we are not out of the woods yet untill vaccinated. There was complacency and govt cannot escape the blame. Govt does not have to check everybody but can do sero surveys at regular intervals to track the status.. can't shrug it off man. And just so that ppl start insinuating of me being a congressi or aapiya, let me state clearly I am not. I am a modi supporter. But truth cannot be denied, we fucked up.

 

[SKC]

No doubt general public behaviour was irresponsible but it's the govt who has the scientists, the machinery, the research institutes, the money. They should have used the time to ramp up the infrastructure and sensitise people that we are not out of the woods yet untill vaccinated. There was complacency and govt cannot escape the blame. Govt does not have to check everybody but can do sero surveys at regular intervals to track the status.. can't shrug it off man. And just so that ppl start insinuating of me being a congressi or aapiya, let me state clearly I am not. I am a modi supporter. But truth cannot be denied, we fucked up.

Infrastructure is there but biggest issue with India is lack of reliable supply line and chain.
We are still far behind most Big countries in ensuring dedicated and reliable supply chains.
Also big issue in inventory management.
We are producing far more Oxygen than required currently in the country but we don't have a proper way to distribute it.
Add into it the hoarding of the resources of general public in pretext of fear that what if they get infected and they don't get hospital bed.

 

[SKC]

Yes i like the last sentence you wrote " WE FUCKED IT UP" its collective failure of all . now lets get all our hands together and come out of it collectively . Do we have a choice or its all hands down for all of us ?

I am following IIT professor who is running a prediction model of cases in the last two week twice his model has gone wrong which shows that the 2nd wave is completely a different game which even you can't predict its peak with your all available modelling options .

I think we have a choice , Get the mask on stop the spread let the ones infected get treated and let the vaccination drive run .

i am saying again and again there is no vaccine shortage even today in most states . TN is today also reporting pathetic vaccination numbers , Whom are we going to blame when 3rd wave comes the govt or people who are refused to get vaccinated when its available for them ?

These predictive models are all useless. None worked last year and none will work now. These professors just want to justify their posts.
None of the models works when you scale it to population above 15-20 crore let alone a 130 crore plus country.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Seems like viral load between 20 to 35 is no big deal since it does not cause any severe issue.
My friend has load of 24 and he is quarantined at home doctor says he can stay in contact with his family while wearing mask and practising covid protocol.

@tarunraju what is your parents viral load ?

@Hariharan_kalarikkal what's yours mate?

 

[Narasimh]

Yes i like the last sentence you wrote " WE FUCKED IT UP" its collective failure of all . now lets get all our hands together and come out of it collectively . Do we have a choice or its all hands down for all of us ?

I am following IIT professor who is running a prediction model of cases in the last two week twice his model has gone wrong which shows that the 2nd wave is completely a different game which even you can't predict its peak with your all available modelling options .

I think we have a choice , Get the mask on stop the spread let the ones infected get treated and let the vaccination drive run .

i am saying again and again there is no vaccine shortage even today in most states . TN is today also reporting pathetic vaccination numbers , Whom are we going to blame when 3rd wave comes the govt or people who are refused to get vaccinated when its available for them ?

Yes it's collective but nothing can be left to people.. they have to be treated like babies.. Govt has to pull all stops to vaccinate each and everyone. Like in case of polio, vaccine has to be made available at PHCs level based on priority. Companies already trying vaccinate people within their campuses. This should be extended via vaccine drives in schools, colleges etc. Set a target to vaccinate entire population. That's the only way we can come out of it faster.

 

[Tactical Doge]

Seems like viral load between 20 to 35 is no big deal since it does not cause any severe issue.
My friend has load of 24 and he is quarantined at home doctor says he can stay in contact with his family while wearing mask and practising covid protocol.

@tarunraju what is your parents viral load ?

@Hariharan_kalarikkal what's yours mate?

35 is low right?
But quite possibly I have passed it to my sister too
I pray that's not the case, but she's mildly sick as of now
And I'm doing fine actually

 

[ezsasa]

To put it simply people are responsible for the current situation because they behaved irresponsibly and thought that they got away with the virus lightly after the first wave.
The government is responsible because they did not anticipate and were extremely complacent in their approach, faulty policies when it came to vaccine distribution and not planning and stocking essentials for the next wave.

if you are aware of the concept of “Stress test”, typically used in banking and IT sectors, it’s the nature of stress test that it brings out the unsolved cracks while the resolved issues are not talked about.

If you notice, major issues people focused on last year are not the same as major issues reported this year. if problems of this year are rectified, major issues of next year will not be the same as this year and last year.

if people are religious types, might as well pray for a early good long monsoon, only a monsoon will be able to break the chain of transmission because most people will stay at home during the rain. last year too cases started reducing after monsoons started and continued in winter.

It’s only after MH and delhi dropped the ball, stress got introduced in the system again.

 

[SKC]

35 is low right?
But quite possibly I have passed it to my sister too
I pray that's not the case, but she's mildly sick as of now
And I'm doing fine actually

Follow the steps told earlier and it will get over soon.

 

[ladder]

Demand and supply will play it's part after may 1 .
Simple it is , if state gormint will give free vaccines too, then most people ( myself included )
Will rather wait for it ,then give money to privyet hospitals.

Any body who has the capacity to pay, even if takes a jab at government hospital for free, please contribute equivalent amount to PM Cares or CM relief fund so that center/ state can buy jabs for those who cannot buy.

 

[Suryavanshi]

35 is low right?
But quite possibly I have passed it to my sister too
I pray that's not the case, but she's mildly sick as of now
And I'm doing fine actually

35 is good enough for transmission yo.

 

[ladder]

Seems like viral load between 20 to 35 is no big deal since it does not cause any severe issue.
My friend has load of 24 and he is quarantined at home doctor says he can stay in contact with his family while wearing mask and practising covid protocol.

@tarunraju what is your parents viral load ?

@Hariharan_kalarikkal what's yours mate?

How do one calculate viral load?

 

[SKC]

How do one calculate viral load?

CT test!

 

[skywatcher]

China's Foreign Ministry: China willing to help India control recent COVID-19 surge

India marked a grim milestone in the COVID-19 pandemic on Thursday, reporting 314,835 new daily cases, the highest one-day tally anywhere, as its second wave and similar surges elsewhere raised new fears about the ability of health services to cope with the situation.

news.cgtn.com

China's Foreign Ministry: China willing to help India control recent COVID-19 surge

China has noticed the recent surge of COVID-19 cases in India and is willing to provide necessary humanitarian relief to help India control the recent outbreak, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin said on Thursday.

India marked a grim milestone in the COVID-19 pandemic on Thursday, reporting 314,835 new daily cases, the highest one-day tally anywhere, as its second wave and similar surges elsewhere raised new fears about the ability of health services to cope with the situation.

 

[Cheran]

The center had in early Jan 2021 asked Maharashtra, Chhatisgarh, Kerala & WB to main vigil. Now Chhatisgarh CM saying that center did not warn!!! PS - Health is a state subject.

Meanwhile

Thousands of farmers headed for Delhi border (No mask no social distancing). They have special KissAssAn immunity, afterall we need to fight crony capitalism.

Meanwhile

 

[captscooby81]

Polio is not done for entire population . Plus polio drops like camps were PHC moving in railway stations and bus stops is not going to work with this vaccine . You need to monitor people to see if they need any vaccine allergy treatment . Schools well vaccine as of now is for 18+ only and there is no need to vaccinate kids as most of them as locked inside their homes for last one year and unless they have exposure outside .

We have just started vaccination 45 days ago and here people are just going mad why govt has not vaccinated the entire population . they had opened up vaccines for all from May1st from April 28th people above 18 can go to

https://selfregistration.cowin.gov.in/

and register themselves for vaccination from May1st . Lets see how many above 18 here gets registered first .

Just for your info total registration for vaccine today across country is : 13,62,792 as of 4 pm . i am talking about registration not vaccination these are people who registered to get vaccinated in this coming week .

Yes it's collective but nothing can be left to people.. they have to be treated like babies.. Govt has to pull all stops to vaccinate each and everyone. Like in case of polio, vaccine has to be made available at PHCs level based on priority. Companies already trying vaccinate people within their campuses. This should be extended via vaccine drives in schools, colleges etc. Set a target to vaccinate entire population. That's the only way we can come out of it faster.

 

[captscooby81]

No 35 is not low you can spread the virus easily .

35 is low right?
But quite possibly I have passed it to my sister too
I pray that's not the case, but she's mildly sick as of now
And I'm doing fine actually