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And the people living there? They also need to be erased from world map?
When we say Pak should be erased from the map, it means the borders, geography. Break it up into 4 countries.
 

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And the people living there? They also need to be erased from world map?
Pak army, isi and extremists should be shot in the head and normal people will stay where they are.

But pakistan needs to be erased.
 

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BTW,
that map shows much of Kashmir in different colour. Tibet is accepted as part of China, further even Bhutan is gifted China. Maybe in few years, these map makers will include Delhi also in China...
 

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You confuse people with state. Common mistake of people living under the rule of communists.
I am not the one saying this:
"Pakistan as a country needs to be erased from world map."

By the way, there is no communists today. A common mistake if you still live in the 80s, or at least if your mind are still stuck in the 80s.


 

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I am not the one saying this:
"Pakistan as a country needs to be erased from world map."


Please note the highlighted words. Thats exactly why I said you confuse a state(country/nation) with people. Breaking or erasing a state(country/nation) is not equivalent to killing the people and vice versa.

The distinction can be hard for a chinese to understand given that China has been subjected to Communist propaganda from 1949.

By the way, there is no communists today. A common mistake if you still live in the 80s, or at least if your mind are still stuck in the 80s.
List of current communist states

List of current communist states

The following countries are one-party states in which the institutions of the ruling communist party and the state have become intertwined; hence they fall under the definition of Socialist states seeking to build a communist society. They are listed here together with the year of their founding and their respective ruling parties:[24]

North Korea Democratic People's Republic of Korea (since 1948 ) Workers' Party of Korea, removed Marxist-Leninism references and officially follows Juche.[25]
:namaste:China People's Republic of China (since 1949); Communist Party of China, describes itself as "socialism with Chinese characteristics"
Vietnam Socialist Republic of Vietnam (since 1976); Communist Party of Vietnam (ruled the Democratic Republic of Vietnam since 1954), describes itself "in transition toward socialism in the light of Marxism-Leninism."
Cuba Republic of Cuba (Cuban Revolution in 1959, socialist state declared in 1961); Communist Party of Cuba
Laos Lao People's Democratic Republic (since 1975); Lao People's Revolutionary Party. Laos removed all references to Marxism-Leninism, communism and socialism from its constitution in 1991.
 

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I am not the one saying this:
"Pakistan as a country needs to be erased from world map."

By the way, there is no communists today. A common mistake if you still live in the 80s, or at least if your mind are still stuck in the 80s.


Your point would be valid if i said all pakistani people need to be erased.

India is not in the business of killing people by the millions like the chinis.
 

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Born in pakistan is a SIN. Born in pakistan or being pakistani is like living with disease. see below

born in pakistan is like, live like this man.

 

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Please note the highlighted words. Thats exactly why I said you confuse a state(country/nation) with people. Breaking or erasing a state(country/nation) is not equivalent to killing the people and vice versa.

Here is a defination of country:
1.a. A nation or state.
b. The territory of a nation or state; land.
c. The people of a nation or state; populace:

Please note the highlighted words. A government, on the other hand dont fall into a, b or c. See the difference between a government and a country? No?



The distinction can be hard for a chinese to understand given that China has been subjected to Communist propaganda from 1949.

Hilarious since I am neither a chinese or live in China. :rofl:

The following countries are one-party states in which the institutions of the ruling communist party and the state have become intertwined; hence they fall under the definition of Socialist states seeking to build a communist society. They are listed here together with the year of their founding and their respective ruling parties:[24]

Please note the highlighted words. Try to read it carefully a couple times. Or ask your teacher what communism means. I am sure they will explain to you why none of those countries practice communism today.

List of current communist states
Back to topic once you are finished trolling.
 

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Back to topic once you are finished trolling.
You were and are the one trolling. You try to put a juvenile or malicious spin on the original statement about Pakistan. Then, you make silly claims(like no communist country...etc).

Anyway, a country can be dissolved or partitioned. Killing people is not necessarily a part of it. People within a country can be killed without harming the state/country.

Dissolution_of_Czechoslovakia
Dissolution_of_the_Netherlands_Antilles
Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
Partition_of_Belgium

You should grow a brain and stop equating state/country with people.

BTW, have I accused you of living in China? I carefully avoided that charge. I simply said that a common chinese who is subjected to communist propaganda may not be able to differentiate between the state and people. If you dont live in China, then that statement does not apply to you. Why are you getting your panties in a twist then?
 

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There is no such thing as a communist state. That itself is an oxymoron.
 

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Communist state

A communist state is a state with a form of government characterized by single-party rule or dominant-party rule of a communist party and a professed allegiance to a Leninist or Marxist-Leninist communist ideology as the guiding principle of the state. According to this principle public ownership of all means of production by the Communist party-run state is necessary for the possibility to further the interest of the working class. According to Marxist-Leninists, a multi-party state allows parties to represent interests of subgroups instead of the coherent whole, and because it allows private fortune, it allows private fortune to distort the political decision-making.[citation needed]

In practice, the so-called Communist states do not refer to themselves as Communist states. They constitutionally identify themselves as socialist states or Workers' states. The primary goal of these states, and their justification for single-party rule, is to guide their respective countries in the process of constructing socialism.

Communist states may have several legal political parties, but the communist party is usually granted a special or dominant role in government,[1] often by statute or under the constitution. Consequently, the institutions of the state and of the communist party become intimately entwined, such as in the development of parallel institutions.
Wiki Link about Communist States
 

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You were and are the one trolling. You try to put a juvenile or malicious spin on the original statement about Pakistan. Then, you make silly claims(like no communist country...etc).

If you still dont get that there is no communist country, then i see no point of educating you.

Anyway, a country can be dissolved or partitioned. Killing people is not necessarily a part of it. People within a country can be killed without harming the state/country.

Dissolution_of_Czechoslovakia
Dissolution_of_the_Netherlands_Antilles
Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
Partition_of_Belgium

And I can give you Bangladesh, Pakistan as exempel of how a country can be dissolved which involved lots of deaths. If you think that you can break up Pakistan without any death, then you are out of your freaking mind. Try to think first before you post crap like this.

You should grow a brain and stop equating state/country with people.

A country is where people live. You can remove a government but not erase a country. If you dont know the distinction, then i am wasting my time on you.


BTW, have I accused you of living in China? I carefully avoided that charge. I simply said that a common chinese who is subjected to communist propaganda may not be able to differentiate between the state and people. If you dont live in China, then that statement does not apply to you. Why are you getting your panties in a twist then?
You are the one brought up the mambo jumbo about common chinese subjected to communist propaganda. How is that relevant to any of this? So who is the one getting panties in a twist then?

Anyway I have said what need to be said. Have fun!
 

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A communist society, by definition, is a stateless society. A stateless society can't have a state. The wiki link is about states that were ruled by a Communist Party of some sort, which is not the same as a 'communist state'.

Try looking beyond Wikipedia.
 

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You are the one brought up the mambo jumbo about common chinese subjected to communist propaganda. How is that relevant to any of this? So who is the one getting panties in a twist then?

Anyway I have said what need to be said. Have fun!
You were the one unnecessarily equating dismantling of a state/country with killing the people. How pathetic?!!
 

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A communist society, by definition, is a stateless society. A stateless society can't have a state. The wiki link is about states that were ruled by a Communist Party of some sort, which is not the same as a 'communist state'.

Try looking beyond Wikipedia.
How would you differentiate pure communism with anarchy solely on the basis of governance ?
 

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