How is it good for India.? These are pretty good helicopters. It would be better if they would have gotten T129. USA is also playing both sides like Russia
Americans are very good in business. they have carefully analysed how they can sell more apache to india and reduce the numbers of LCH at the same time.
AH 1Z has half the payload of Apache, can't direct drones or artillery using datelink to enemy targets, radar can't prioritise 116 targets, ceiling is 66% of Apache, helmet mounted dashboard not available, 20mm gun vs 30 for Apache. And pakis are giggling like they've achieved strategic dominance
Dude - it doesn't matter our armoured vehicles are going to be toasted by this . It can do exactly what Apache can do albeit with half the efficiency but it doesn't matter . It will do the job well.AH 1Z has half the payload of Apache, can't direct drones or artillery using datelink to enemy targets, radar can't prioritise 116 targets, ceiling is 66% of Apache, helmet mounted dashboard not available, 20mm gun vs 30 for Apache. And pakis are giggling like they've achieved strategic dominance
Pakis will never get T129's they've to settle with Chinese overweight Z10.
Dude do you think our armoured vehicles left on their own to get toasted by these half efficient copters? We will achieve air dominance as these are not Apaches to defend themselves against an attack in tandem. By your logic T129 Z10 can also toast our armoured vehicles right? Even Apaches are used to take out Air defence first or after air dominance is achieved. First let them have an effective air defence to challenge IAF copters!
Pakistan is anyways going to buy helicopters. Better they buy from Americans than Turks. Turks have a relatively less developed defence industry and have closer relations with pakistan, so if Pakistan had bought Turkish helis, it would have given them more flexibility in types of upgrades possible on them, as well indignization of some maintenance facilities for these helicopters. A good example is JF17, where pakistan has integrated it with Aselpod and has an MRO facility for it, whereas their F16s still have very limited strike capability no F16 maintenance facilities are present inside Pakistan.
Hmm. First it can carry 16 hellfire missile on 4 pylon as Apache. Second air dominance can't be achieved that fast . Feb27 was the example for that. Thirdly what do you say about our own lch . I mean what use would it be if ahz1 helicopter is useless according to you. These are good attack helicopters league ahead of our lch from weapons to avionics albeit less advance than Apache but it will get the job done. And it's quite new too , this variant introduction was in 2010. I would refrain from calling these half baked copters.
Your assumptions is quite wrong in my humble opinion. Turkish attach helicopter is less advance and will always be less advance than USA ones. It doesn't matter how many upgrades it gets. They are selling it with full package (hellfire missiles) after that it doesn't need any upgrades. At least with turkish helicopters it will be easier to shoot down American ones.
Turkish build only fuselage of T129. The design is of Augusta Westland and engine American. They won't manufacture indegineously from scratch like LCH. US has banned engine export and T129 is held up. Even weapon sensors are European and getting upgraded recently when LCH gets in intial batch itself. Turkey are building engine for T129 which may take a decade also Chinese Z10 engine is inferior and not reliable which Pak themselves rejected. Pak has no choice other than to accept these American second line choppers. Turkish are far away from building own defence industry to export
Quite right. But the thing that bugs me is that USA is also providing them full support in spare and maintenance. After balakot they signed million dollars deal for continuous supply of spare to keep there f16 flying . Problem is that USA is playing both sides . Many Indians don't want to accept this fact that USA value it's relationship with Pakistan and after Afghanistan deal Pakistan got huge leverage.
Ofcourse you can't because you don't have any facts bruhh.. you pointed the discussion about there capabilities from air to Sam systems.So you compare choppers to Air skirmish of Feb 27?I can't say anymore in this
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