Trichy Assault Rifle

[Shaitan]

in all probability this is going to be the way going forward for a long long time.

in other words, as long as there is no domestic gun culture for assault rifles same method will continue.
in countries where there is gun culture, the industry tries to satisfy it's customers i.e public, in our case there are really only two customers i.e defence and internal security.

It's not just gun culture, you need companies that care about their craftsmanship. OFB, doesnt need to. You'll always get the bare minimum.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

@ghost

Such information about requirements and requirement changes are confidential in nature, These are not RFI or RFP which your ideas are based on,Such information are shared only within specific GOI branches ..

More of such post which contain rant will be deleted in future, you have been warned ..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Excalibur MK1A was a design completely by OFB, It passed its trails back in 2003 at MHOW but was not inducted despite it was better in many ways to 1B1 in service like lesser moving parts, light weight furniture, Such treatment discourage innovation and of-course their is competition where older design are given first preference which further discourage innovation ..

Indian forces see west for innovation which are tested by them in battle and They have little confidence among their own scientific community, They demand only modified copy through its home grown industry, They have little or no faith in new technologies or changes, Though their are exceptions people but are rare ..

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This has to be change, Seriously ..

Don't you think dada it's a bit problem with us ?

DRDO/OFB make stuff 'STRICTLY' as per requirements given by Defense Forces.

What about innovation ? why don't they made something of their own and present it to our forces ? (I hope you get the message)

 

[ghost]

Regarding GSQR in general-
GSQR is specific in nature for physical parameters such as length, mass, ambidextrous features, provision of Picatinny rails etc .It is generic in terms of design of the rifle such as muzzle brake. ARDE and OFB design a prototype as per these GSQR, then it undergoes trials .After it has passed all the trials and modified as per the improvement suggested the final design is frozen.Then OFB carry out its production as per the final design.


Regarding Ghatak -
It is not based on Army GSQR as being suggested,it is a in house development done by OFB to gain workload for future.

Providing of workload in Small Arms group of factories.

Parallely OFB has undertaken following IRD projects(Industrial Research and Development ) to obtain workload from users:

7.62mm Assault Rifle (Ghaatak) : RFI, SAF has developed this weapon and successfully trial evaluated by BoO of MHA. PMS allocation received for 3007 nos.

http://bpms.org.in/documents/actn-tkn-on-16th-scm-new-x3ta.pdf

 

[Kunal Biswas]

GSQR are not available for public reading, What you defined is your idea based on public reading of RFI or RFP ..

From the source, contrary to what you are trying to convey ..

The four small arms manufacturing factories viz Rifle factory, Ishajpore(RFI), small Arms Factory
(SAF), Ordnance factory Tiruchirapalli (OFT) & Ordnance factory Project, Korwa(OFPKR) are
established primarily to cater the requirement of Defense Forces.

User is looking for induction of new technology weapons, OFB has sensitized the factories about this
transition stage. New weapons can be inducted after fructification of RFPs and resultant absorption of
ToT to meet the user requirement / hope.

What you provided is action taken report,ts not about or Army or Ghatak either or General idea about the procedure which this is regarding, The report says obvious nature of workload but you made selected highlights of the parts to support your own opinion under the word suggestion of your and not the article, I, If given chance anyone can bring any article and claim anything in such manner ..

This thread about TAR, Let me bring in something which suggest TAR QR is prepared by Paramilitary and Army is not a part of it but Ghatak`s ..

Do send me something which support your claim, which also convey that GOI runs a banana republic ..

regarding Ghatak -
It is not based on Army GSQR as being suggested,it is a in house development done by OFB to gain workload for future.f

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Regarding the topic :

From 2015-2016 annual report ..

 

[Shaitan]

OFB TAR
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[Saichand K]

http://idrw.org/crpf-approves-trichy-assault-rifle-after-tests/

Some good news atlast....

 

[Raj Malhotra]

Ghatak was developed for MHA ie Paramilitary requirement.

 

[Kshithij]

Regarding the topic :

From 2015-2016 annual report ..

Successful trial of dhanush? Wasn't it a failure?

Is the above pointers trustworthy? Of course, TAR is not really a high end technology and perfectly possible for our OFB, the success of dhanush adds some amount of suspicion. Either media is wrong (as usual) or some mistake in the pointers

 

[sum1]

When was Dhanush a failure?

I recall a barrel burst during "extended trials" (all weather trials done succesfully and then these new intense trials) but it was stil unclear if ammo or barrel was the culprit. I believe process is still on and Dhanush hasnt been junked

Even the M777 had a burst due to ammo but i dont recall it being failed

 

[xeaaex]

Successful trial of dhanush? Wasn't it a failure?

Is the above pointers trustworthy? Of course, TAR is not really a high end technology and perfectly possible for our OFB, the success of dhanush adds some amount of suspicion. Either media is wrong (as usual) or some mistake in the pointers

If According to you Dhanush was failure then by that logic m777 is a failure too.
I think both the barrels burst due faulty ammo.

 

[Saichand K]

IS this Trichy assault rifle in the pic ??

 

[darshan978]

IS this Trichy assault rifle in the pic ??

i guess ak47 bulgarian??? see this https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...Ibfx9x4TG8rwb8QaL9uOBqYuSan4O8rwZ_6yvr_l7Q1aQ

 

[soikot banerjee]

IS this Trichy assault rifle in the pic ??

Depends:
If army then NO
If CRPF then YES
Both are clone, though the gas block has differences which can be only quantified by @Johnny-baba

 

[Saichand K]

i guess ak47 bulgarian??? see this https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...Ibfx9x4TG8rwb8QaL9uOBqYuSan4O8rwZ_6yvr_l7Q1aQ

the gas block is 90 in the photo i shared nt 45 degrees.

 

[Johny_Baba]

IS this Trichy assault rifle in the pic ??

Looks like bulgarian Arsenal AR-F with 45 degree angled gas block and an underfolding stock.

Source -
http://arsenal-bg.com/c/556x45-762x39-mm-assault-rifles-barrel-length-415-mm-44/762x39-mm-ar-f-50