The Syrian Crisis

[sesha_maruthi27]

Either way the americans are just days away from attacking Syria now, the news is out.....

 

[drkrn]

I think any American led strike on Syria will concentrate on Assad's C&C capabilities: headquarters, communication sites, radar sites and SAMs. It would degrade Assad's ability to direct the fight and coordinate any offensive or defensive actions. I don't think Americans would target chemical weapons stockpiles as it would be catastrophic to the people around those sites. As to Mig 29s, these could be the least problem for the Western allies since they'll be practically useless without air defense infrastructures.

and all these actions makes it easy for israel to enter the picture when wanted

 

[drkrn]

Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria

As-Safir said Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia's naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia's Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord.
''I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the Games are controlled by us,'' he allegedly said.
Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on and off.
''We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria's political future.''
The Putin-Bandar meeting took place three weeks ago. Mr Putin was unmoved by the Saudi offer.
''We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters,'' he said, referring to footage showing a Jihadist rebel eating the heart and liver of a Syrian soldier.
Prince Bandar said that there can be ''no escape from the military option'' if Russia declines the olive branch. Events are unfolding exactly as he foretold.


Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria

if he had said these words with putin only god can save him from mysterious death.putin shows no mercy on his opponents,and persons who threatens him

 

[drkrn]

Not Only the US going to Strike

USA Leads the Strike

UK Gives Couple of Submarine and Air Base in Cyprus for Allies Fighters Refuel and Re arming

Turkey Openly Support To US and will Join the Attack

France Already Decided their Contribution on this Mission

Israel gives Intelligence Sharing and May Perform some DEAD/SEAD missions along Syria

Saudi May Fund Countries who Attacks Syria

Germany Says will give Fighters If anyone Confirms The Chemical strike

Italy says will give Support If UN agrees to Strike



Opposition

Russia Says Will Strike Saudi and Destroy ABM shield in Europe

Iran says we have contract with Syria Quoting We both attack anyone If any of our Country get attacked

Syria already placed some Hundred of SCUDS with Chemical Warheads

China warns US


No Mentions

Jordan says we will not allow any Fighters in our Country who attacks Syria

Still Egypt was Silent

india -protests in the public,enjoys the show

 

[nrupatunga]

The saudi-russian talks by bandar-putin is few weeks old if am not wrong. Anyways putin refused.
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Anyways russians would be updating the syrian regime with all latest satellite pics and any other info they can provide. Maybe even china may have deployed a satellite covering west asia(EDIT: china may have sat for own use, to monitor the ground scenario).

Maybe tonight or tomorrow night strikes will happen (missile strikes will definitely happen in night only). But the big Q is can the rebels take any advantage?? Somehow i feel rebels may need much more than few specific and targeted missile strikes.

 

[drkrn]

The saudi-russian talks by bandar-putin is few weeks old if am not wrong. Anyways putin refused.
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Anyways russians would be updating the syrian regime with all latest satellite pics and any other info they can provide. Maybe even china may have deployed a satellite covering west asia.

Maybe tonight or tomorrow night strikes will happen (missile strikes will definitely happen in night only). But the big Q is can the rebels take any advantage?? Somehow i feel rebels may need much more than few specific and targeted missile strikes.

if they have input from satellites definitely syria is in a better position for keeping their weapons safe

 

[nrupatunga]

As i had mentioned in post#2643, russians maybe given some time.
Russia evacuates citizens ahead of military strikes in the 'next few days'

Russia said it had evacuated all of its defence personnel from Syria in June, but a foreign ministry spokesman said at the time that about 30,000 other Russians were still living across the country.

How long will it take to evacuate 30,000 people??

Also the article mentions that

MPs will be recalled to the House of Commons so they can vote on the UK's response to the crisis in Syria, David Cameron has said. Announcing the plans the Prime Minister wrote: "Speaker agrees my request to recall Parliament on Thurs. There'll be a clear Govt motion & vote on UK response to chemical weapons attacks."

So does it mean strikes will happen thursday night ?? Or will US go ahead with it's strikes earlier itself??

 

[nrupatunga]

if they have input from satellites definitely syria is in a better position for keeping their weapons safe

Russia may provide info on military buildup, navy movement etc. But similarly the west also would be monitoring chemical stockpile movement, and other important asset etc. Also how long can syria avoid western strikes. If the strikes don't achieve results, i wouldn't be surprised if west may also conduct special operations to seize chemical stockpile. This means a osama kinda strike, go there bring back/destroy stockpile and get out kinda strikes. Chances of fighting regime forces on behalf of rebels is no-no.

 

[drkrn]

Russia may provide info on military buildup, navy movement etc. But similarly the west also would be monitoring chemical stockpile movement, and other important asset etc. Also how long can syria avoid western strikes. If the strikes don't achieve results, i wouldn't be surprised if west may also conduct special operations to seize chemical stockpile. This means a osama kinda strike, go there bring back/destroy stockpile and get out kinda strikes. Chances of fighting regime forces on behalf of rebels is no-no.

do you remember operation shakti where india military satellites. the inputs gives assad to make times,minimise damages,increase offences.

 

[nrupatunga]

do you remember operation shakti where india military satellites. the inputs gives assad to make times,minimise damages,increase offences.

Increase offences??? against whom?? US?? no way. US/UK will think of sending special forces only if strikes fail. I suppose west already has a fair idea where stockpiles are present.They will go for it untill they are sure, there are no chemical stockpiles.

But if west doesn't target regime forces day in and day-out, can the rebels get any advantage of this???

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Turkish doctors say no nerve gas in Syrian victims' blood


Turkish doctors say no nerve gas in Syrian victims' blood | GlobalPost

First this quote from the article:

Doctors in Reyhanli, in Turkey's Hatay province, say they believe the Turkish government will keep the final results a secret due to the potential global political consequences of either negative or positive results.

That is absurd.

Second, no method of analysis was specified in the article.

Analysis of soman and sarin in blood utilizing ... [J Chromatogr. 1985] - PubMed - NCBI

Third, we don't know if victims were treated with anything before the blood analysis, with atropine, for example.

Sarin Poisoning | Doctor | Patient.co.uk

 

[The Messiah]

After every western intervention anti-India regimes gain power. Need i remind you that iraq was on friendly terms with India. Indian IAF personnel used to train iraqis in iraq and saddam sided with India on kashmir issue.

You think the bearded goons will be friendly to India ? West will put them into power and then invade them a decade later claiming they're terrorists.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Arab Spring ======> Guns of August

One has to wonder how the Nobel Committee feels about the Peace Prize they gave to Obama.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Israel may have intercepted Syrian discussions about chemical attack - latimes.com

An elite Israeli intelligence unit intercepted conversations among high ranking Syrian government officials discussing last week's apparent chemical attack outside Damascus as it unfolded, a German news magazine has reported.

Citing an anonymous Israeli ex-intelligence official, Germany's Focus magazine said Saturday that Israel's secretive signals intelligence agency, Unit 8200, eavesdropped on a conversation between senior Syrian officials about use of chemical agents.

On Friday, Israel's Channel 2 reported that rockets containing chemical agents were fired by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division, a division under the command of the Syrian president's brother, Maher Assad.

The shells were reportedly fired from a military base in a mountain range west of Damascus, the news channel said, without disclosing its sources.

Aaron Sagui, a spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, declined to comment on the reports. But Israeli officials have said publicly that they believe last week's attack was a chemical attack by forces loyal to President Bashar Assad.

 

[The Messiah]

Arab Spring ======> Guns of August

One has to wonder how the Nobel Committee feels about the Peace Prize they gave to Obama.

They were naive and ignorant like the masses. There were many in India also who thought he's some peace dove, i still remember telling people sitting in the room when it was flashed in the news that obama had won (the first time around) that he wont be doing any drastic u-turns that you all expect after the media wankfest.

 

[IBSA]

Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria
Posted by EU Times on Aug 27th, 2013

A grim "urgent action memorandum" issued today from the office of President Putin to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is ordering a "massive military strike" against Saudi Arabia in the event that the West attacks Syria.

According to Kremlin sources familiar with this extraordinary "war order," Putin became "enraged" after his early August meeting with Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan who warned that if Russia did not accept the defeat of Syria, Saudi Arabia would unleash Chechen terrorists under their control to cause mass death and chaos during the Winter Olympics scheduled to be held 7-23 February 2014 in Sochi, Russia.

Lebanese newspaper As-Safir confirmed this amazing threat against Russia saying that Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia's naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia's Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord by stating: "I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us."

Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off. "These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria's political future."

London's The Telegraph News Service further reported today that Saudi Arabia has secretly offered Russia a sweeping deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia's gas contracts, if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria, an offer Putin replied to by saying "Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters" [Putin said referring to footage showing a Jihadist rebel eating the heart and liver of a Syrian soldier HERE], and which Prince Bandar in turn warned that there can be "no escape from the military option" if Russia declines the olive branch.

Critical to note, and as we had previously reported on in our 28 January 2013 report "Obama Plan For World War III Stuns Russia," the Federal Security Services (FSB) confirmed the validity of the released hacked emails of the British based defence company, Britam Defence that stunningly warned the Obama regime was preparing to unleash a series of attacks against both Syria and Iran in a move Russian intelligence experts warned could very well cause World War III.

According to this FSB report, Britam Defence, one of the largest private mercenary forces in the world, was the target of a "massive hack" of its computer files by an "unknown state sponsored entity" this past January who then released a number of critical emails between its top two executives, founder Philip Doughty and his Business Development Director David Goulding.

The two most concerning emails between Doughty and Goulding, this report says, states that the Obama regime has approved a "false flag" attack in Syria using chemical weapons, and that Britam has been approved to participate in the West's warn on Iran, and as we can read:

Email 1: Phil, We've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW (chemical weapon) to Homs (Syria), a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it's a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion? Kind regards David

Email 2: Phil, Please see attached details of preparatory measures concerning the Iranian issue. Participation of Britam in the operation is confirmed by the Saudis.

With the events now spiraling out of control in Syria, and London's Independent News Service now reporting that Prince Bandar is "pushing for war," Russian foreign ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich further warned the West today by stating, "Attempts to bypass the Security Council, once again to create artificial groundless excuses for a military intervention in the region are fraught with new suffering in Syria and catastrophic consequences for other countries of the Middle East and North Africa."

Heedless of Russian warnings which have fallen on deaf ears, however, British Prime Minister David Cameron this morning recalled the British Parliament to vote on attacking Syria as the Obama regime abruptly cancelled their meeting with Russia scheduled for tomorrow on finding a path to peace for Syria, and the West begins its plans to attack the Syrian nation "within days."

As Syria itself has warned that should it be attacked by the West there will be "global chaos," the Western peoples themselves have not been told of the fact that on 17 May 2013, Putin ordered Russian military forces to "immediately move" from Local War to Regional War operational status and to be "fully prepared" to expand to Large-Scale War should either the US or EU enter into the Syrian Civil War, a situation they are still in at this very hour.

With Putin's previous order, and as we had reported on in our 17 May report "Russia Issues "All-Out War" Alert Over Syria," and now combined with his new ordering of massive retaliatory strikes against Saudi Arabia, any attack on Syria is viewed by Russia as being an attack on itself.

And as we had previously explained in great detail, the fight over Syria, being led by Saudi Arabia and Qatar and their lap-dog Western allies, has but one single objective: To break Russia's hold on the European Union natural gas market which a pipeline through Syria would accomplish, and as reported by London's Financial Times News Service this past June:

"The tiny gas-rich state of Qatar has spent as much as $3bn over the past two years supporting the rebellion in Syria, far exceeding any other government, but is now being nudged aside by Saudi Arabia as the prime source of arms to rebels.

The cost of Qatar's intervention, its latest push to back an Arab revolt, amounts to a fraction of its international investment portfolio. But its financial support for the revolution that has turned into a vicious civil war dramatically overshadows western backing for the opposition.

Qatar [also] has proposed a gas pipeline from the Gulf to Turkey in a sign the emirate is considering a further expansion of exports from the world's biggest gasfield after it finishes an ambitious programme to more than double its capacity to produce liquefied natural gas (LNG)."

And in what is, perhaps, the most unimaginable cause to start World War III over Syria was noted by Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman, Aleksandr Lukashevich who said this past week: "We're getting more new evidence that this criminal act was of a provocative nature," he stressed. "In particular, there are reports circulating on the Internet, in particular that the materials of the incident and accusations against government troops had been posted for several hours before the so-called attack. Thus, it was a pre-planned action."

For the West to have so sloppily engineered yet another "false flag" attack to justify a war where they posted the videos of this so-called chemical weapons attack a full day before it was said to occur is the height of arrogance and disdain, but which their sleep-walking citizens, yet again, will fall for as they have done so many times in the past.

Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria | EUTimes.net

 

[IBSA]

Go, go, go, Mr Putin!

Bombard these saudi bastards and wipe out them from Earth.

without them, global terrorism loses their masters and funders

:clap:

 

[W.G.Ewald]

here is Biden telling Chris Matthews back in 2007 that he is deadly serious about attempting to impeach Bush if he goes to war in Iran without congressional authorization:


Video: Biden Threatening to Impeach President If He Launches an Attack Without Congressional Authority

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria | EUTimes.net

Nobody believes this, do they? It serves no one's purpose even as propaganda.

Here is one comment:

Unfortunately, the "source" of this "news" is Sorcha Faal, not exactly the model of credibility even for the internet.

DFI is not served well by members posting such dross.

 

[Dovah]

Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria | EUTimes.net

Nobody believes this, do they? It serves no one's purpose even as propaganda.

Here is one comment:


DFI is not served well by members posting such dross.

Just checked the source website. Seems like the run of the mill tinfoil stuff.

Source

And on the author

Sorcha Faal

Quoting: "Sorcha Faal is the alleged author of an ongoing series of "reports" published at WhatDoesItMean.com, whose work is of such quality that even other conspiracy nutters don't think much of it."