The Syrian Crisis

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Damascus was jolted today over twin blasts. Is Assad slowly inching towards the inevitable?
This is becoming a marathon battle by the way.

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Syria crisis: blasts hit Damascus – Wednesday 26 September 2012 | World news | guardian.co.uk

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Two explosions in central Damascus this morning targeted one of Syria's top military headquarters – the General Staff Command Building (Hay'at al-Arkan) in Umayad Square. The Free Syrian Army has claimed responsibility. State TV says four guards were killed and 14 people wounded.

Residents say the attack has led to intensified security measures which are making travel to, from or inside Damascus difficult....
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Iranian fighter jet seemingly
flying over Homs: is Tehran
actively taking part to the air
war in Syria?


Although the majority of footage, photoappearing on Youtube, Twitter, Facebook,
blogs, and so on, some of the images coming from Syria proved to be fake, as
those allegedly showing a Syrian Arab Air Force plane hit by surface to air missiles
or the L-39 crashing into the ground after being hit by Free Syrian Army's anti- aircraft fire.
That said, take the following with grain of salt.

Brought to my attention by Bjørn Holst Jespersen the following image was
uploaded on the Syrian Revolution Memory Project Flickr photostream. The
photograph, whose EXIF can be found here , is the last of a set reportedly describing a day spent by Abu Jafaar "the
citizen journalist" with the Al-Farouk Brigade of the FSA.





It was taken on Aug. 31 (at least,according to the EXIF), even if the caption says it was shot on Aug. 6 (noteworthy,
all pictures in the set have the same caption: "Homs, Syria August 6, 2012"³).

Anyway, the photograph clearly shows an F-5 Tiger fighter jet. Among the various
operators of this kind of aircraft, Iran and Turkey are the closer ones.
Provided that the image was really taken in Syria,

over Homs or elsewhere in the country, and considered that Tehran has
recently admitted it is helping Assad against the rebels ( recent imagery even
disclosed the presence of Iran Air and Mahan Air planes at Damascus airport)there are some chances that the plane
depicted in the photograph is really an Iranian F-5.

Maybe it's a bit far fetched but this photo could prove Iran is a bit more actively
than thought taking part to the air war over Syria.

Even if it could be risky and surely destined to be unveiled quite soon by drones and intelligence gathering platforms spying on Assadists
movements. Less likely, the image could have been
taken near the border with Turkey, thus showing a TuAF NF-5"¦

Iranian fighter jet seemingly flying over Homs: is Tehran actively taking part to the air war in Syria? � The Aviationist
 
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That would be suicidal for the Assad regime, if Iran directly gets involved then the west would have the perfect excuse to come to the aid of the rebels, once that happens the war won't last long.

If this is true then it shows the regime is getting desperate, otherwise they won't allow something so risky.
 

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'Bloodiest day' of Syria conflict as 305 killed

More than 305 people were killed across Syria on Wednesday, making it the bloodiest day of the 18-month revolt, a human rights group said.

The number killed in fighting between government and rebel forces, and by assaults on the civilian population, topped 300 and reached 343 according to one count.

World leaders are meeting at the United Nations in New York, but without any sign of consensus on how to bring the violence to an end.

David Cameron, the prime minister, accused Russia and China of having a "terrible stain" of the blood of children on their hands for blocking resolutions at the security council.

He had the support of Egypt's new president, Mohammed Morsi, who urged a stronger sanctions regime on Syria.

But Mr Morsi also opposed calls from the Emir of Qatar for a military intervention by Arab League states, while a meeting he had called of the Middle East "quartet" - Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Iran - was called off after the Turkish prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, decided not to travel to New York.

The number of dead means the monthly toll in Syria now rivals the worst days of the fighting in Iraq, except for the initial coalition invasion in 2003.

The worst single incident on Wednesday was the discovery of scores of bodies in the southern Damascus suburb of Dhiyabiyah, men of all ages who had apparently been shot in cold blood.The differing figure put on that massacre - 40, according to the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, 107 according to local activists - accounts for the disparity in the total number of deaths given.

Although attention has focused on the bitter street-to-street fighting for control of the northern city of Aleppo, with its attendant aerial attacks on civilian areas by the regime's fighter jets, Damascus frequently suffers worse.

The Observatory claimed 14 people on both sides were killed in a bomb attack on the army command centre in Damascus and a subsequent gun battle. The regime admitted to four security guards having been killed, and the rebels to four of their men shot dead and another, the suicide bomber who began the attack, blowing himself up.

Separately, the United Nations High Commission for Refugees drastically raised its estimates of the number of those likely to flee the country because of the fighting. It said that could reach 700,000 by the end of the year, its previous estimate of 185,000 having been passed several weeks ago.

Source: 'Bloodiest day' of Syria conflict as 305 killed - Telegraph
 

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Only a no-fly zone brokered with Russia can bring peace to Syria

The UN must be reassured that, unlike with Libya, there will be no mission creep

In New York this week, addressing the UN General Assembly, David Cameron said of Syria: "The blood of these young children is a terrible stain on the reputation of the United Nations." This is too glib. The reputation that is being damaged is not that of the UN, but of the five permanent members of the Security Council: China, France, the US, Britain and Russia. They are the core of the realpolitik that has meant that the UN did not go the way of the League of Nations, even during the strains of the Cold War. It is the responsibility of these nations to forge realistic compromises and take account of their differing interests.

It has been my lot to spend many years negotiating with forces fighting each other in civil wars, predominantly in Southern Rhodesia and Bosnia Herzegovina. Both conflicts were complex in origin and bedevilled by intervention, from, respectively, South Africa and Serbia. The conflict in Syria leaves me with one overriding conclusion. Letting civil wars burn themselves out can have dangerous consequences. Consider Robert Mugabe's conduct in Zimbabwe, bringing in North Korea to train the Fifth Brigade to unleash genocidal violence against the Matabele. Or Bosnia today: in June 2011, Hillary Clinton and William Hague warned that for half a decade there had been a marked deterioration.

Syria is becoming ever more a Shia-Sunni religious conflict as the smaller groupings within are marginalised and leave the country.Ban Ki-moon, the UN Secretary General, in his speech to the General Assembly, urged the setting in motion of a Syrian-led transition as soon as possible. He had persuaded his predecessor, Kofi Annan, to take on the task of negotiator. When Annan stepped down, he could not hide his frustration that he had been given so little help by the Permanent Five.

The new UN negotiator since September 1, Lakhdar Brahimi, a former Algerian foreign minister, is superbly qualified for this challenge. He has signalled that the situation is bad and getting worse, and he cannot see any prospect of an early breakthrough.

The most worrying factor is the inevitable spillover to Iraq. There, the Shiite prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, has moved closer to the Shiite fundamentalist regime in Iran since the withdrawal of the US military at the end of 2011. Al-Maliki fears that Sunni fundamentalists in Syria might replace the Assad regime and then support Sunni insurgent elements in Iraq. Flights from Iran now freely cross Iraqi air space, ferrying weapons and troops to support the Syrian dictatorship.

Meanwhile, Turkey is flying into Iraqi airspace to bomb Kurdish insurgents, who are raising the temperature in their age-old dispute. It is a grim picture and does not augur well for settling the oil dispute between the Kurdish regional government in Iraq and the central government in Baghdad.

The time has long since come for the US, UK and France to stop castigating the Russian Federation and China for their lack of co-operation over Syria in the Security Council. It is important to understand the strength of feeling among the Russian leaders that they were cheated over the UN Resolution – which they did not veto – allowing the establishment of a Nato-imposed no-fly zone over Libya. They believe Nato became an instrument of regime change, forcing out Gaddafi, contrary to the wording of the Resolution. As a consequence, they will veto any similar resolution over Syria.

I was one of the first to argue for a no-fly zone over Libya. Nato acted just in time to stop a massacre in Benghazi, and its military commanders had strong arguments for extending their mandate. Now, in the case of Syria, the arguments need to be rationally discussed, in particular with Russia. Military figures should give reassurance that such mission creep is not inevitable. Syria desperately needs both a Brahimi-led negotiated transitional arrangement, involving a ceasefire, and a way of dealing with violations of it. Realistically, Nato is the only organisation that the Security Council can charge with the responsibility of mounting a no-fly zone.

My suggestion is that the UN Secretary-General should ask the Nato Secretary-General to refer the question of how to sustain a ceasefire in Syria to the Nato-Russia Council. In that forum, which has never had its potential tested, it might be possible for military commanders as well as diplomats in Brussels to thrash out rules of engagement from the air with no boots on the ground in Syria.

This would probably not involve destroying all Syrian ground-to-air missiles with cruise missiles and aircraft, as happened in Libya, although that would be the safest way to proceed. It would have to allow Nato planes to fire if any Syrian radar locked on to Nato aircraft. It should also involve Turkish military commanders in the discussions, which might help to defuse tension in the Nato-Russian Council. For even though Turkey, unlike Russia, is a vocal critic of Assad, the two countries have good working relations.

Without some new forum, the Security Council deadlock seems destined to continue, and peace in Syria will remain a distant dream.

Lord Owen is a former foreign secretary

Source: Only a no-fly zone brokered with Russia can bring peace to Syria - Telegraph
 

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Battle For Syria: View from the Frontline!

War has been raging in Syria for a year and a half. An endless series of special operations, victories and retreats, a struggle between government forces and an armed opposition that takes place both with weapons on the ground and on the TV screen.

Our film crew has spent 2 months on the frontline with the soldiers of Syrian army and civilians trying to answer these hard questions:
Who is the Syrian army fighting?
What is the armed opposition fighting for?
And why are there so many interested parties in this conflict?
[video=youtube_share;2iAnhGCaG6s]http://youtu.be/2iAnhGCaG6s[/video]
 

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Re: Battle For Syria: View from the Frontline!

Syria despatch: meeting Assad's snipers as they fight rebels in Homs

In an exclusive report, Bill Neely gains rare access to the Syrian government fighters waging war in the frontline city of Homs



But it was the next position on the front line that shocked me. It's one thing to hear about the widespread use of torture in this dirty war, especially by a regime bent on crushing the revolution by whatever means necessary. It's quite another to see the instruments of torture in front of you.

Through holes in walls and houses, I reached a building the Syrian troops said they'd taken from rebels two weeks earlier. What they claimed they'd found there still lay scattered around. It wasn't the bags with Saudi Arabian marking that first caught the eye, it was the meat hooks.

A couple of the soldiers lifted up a makeshift wooden scaffold, took one of the meat hooks and attached it to the underside.They demonstrated how it would work. The prisoner would stand on a stool, be hooked onto the metal - I shuddered to think how - then the stool would be kicked away and he would be beaten as he was hanged.


A solider with the makeshift scaffold. Picture: ITN

There were bloodied knives lying around, and other implements that didn't bear too much thinking about. The soldiers claimed this was a rebel torture centre, but they seemed to know how everything worked. At the far end of the building was deep well into which, the men said, the bodies of the dead were tossed.
Source: Syria despatch: meeting Assad's snipers as they fight rebels in Homs - Telegraph
 

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Al-Jazeera journalists protest after being ordered to re-edit UN report

Al-Jazeera's editorial independence has been called into question after its director of news stepped in to ensure a speech made by Qatar's emir to the UN led its English channel's coverage of the debate on Syrian intervention.

Journalists had produced a package of the UN debate, topped with excerpts of President Obama's speech, last Tuesday when a last-minute instruction came from Salah Negm, the Qatar-based news director, who ordered the video to be re-edited to lead with the comments from Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani.



Despite protests from staff that the emir's comments – a repetition of previous calls for Arab intervention in Syria – were not the most important aspect of the UN debate, the two-minute video was re-edited and Obama's speech was relegated to the end of the package.

There are hints at staff dissatisfaction within the film, available for viewing on al-Jazeera's website and YouTube, which notes that the emir "represents one of the smallest countries in the Arab world "¦ but Qatar has been one of the loudest voices condemning Syria".

The episode left a bitter taste among staff amid complaints that this was the most heavy-handed editorial intervention at the global broadcaster, which has long described itself as operating independent of its Qatari ownership. :rolleys:


Al-Jazeera's political independence questioned amid Qatar intervention | Media | guardian.co.uk
 

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Syria is being baited to respond so that nato has an excuse to attack.
 

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Syria is being baited to respond so that nato has an excuse to attack.
Really?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/world/middleeast/syria.html?emc=na&_r=0

Turkey Strikes Back After Syrian Shelling Kills 5 Civilians
The Turkish prime minister announced on Wednesday night that Turkey had fired artillery at targets in Syria, in retaliation for Syrian mortar fire that fell in a Turkish border town and killed five Turkish civilians. It was the first instance of significant fighting across the Turkish-Syrian border since the Syrian uprising began last year, and raised the prospect of greater involvement by the NATO alliance, to which Turkey belongs.
Perhaps you could add some substance to your claim.
 

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There was violation of Syrian airspace by a Turkish plane, that was shot down. I have posted numerous articles on the presence of terrorist (freedom fighters for some) training camps inside Turkey, that are training and hosting an eclectic mix of Jihadis, who are then pushed into Syria. The baiting was going on for quite a while. Syria should have been shelling Turkey long time back, but I guess NATO stood in the way. This is not baiting - just an escalation of the baiting that started long time back.
 

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Really?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/world/middleeast/syria.html?emc=na&_r=0

Turkey Strikes Back After Syrian Shelling Kills 5 Civilians

Perhaps you could add some substance to your claim.
Perhaps you are unaware about terrorists crossing the border and seeking refuge and getting armed to the teeth to fight another day. I wonder why your drones are flying over pakistan ? something to do with terrorists crossing the border to attack nato bases in afghanistan and then sneaking back into pakistan ? could be :hmm:
 

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This Syrian attack happens soon after a Putin's statement for NATO stay away from Syria

Russia tells NATO to stay away from Syria - Yahoo! News

I think Syria would like to attack targets on Turkish border since a time ago, but she had fears of a NATO response. The Russia's statement of protection gave Syria the tranquility to do this.
 

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For all the questions
Turkish parliament approves military
intervention in Syria


Lawmakers grant Ankara right to
deploy troops to retaliate against
Syrian aggression; 'Bill is not for
war,' says deputy PM


he Turkish parliament on Thursday
approved a government proposal to
use military force against Syria
"when necessary" in response to
Wednesday's cross-border
bombardment that killed five civilians.


In an emergency meeting of parliament
convened on Thursday morning, the
Grand National Assembly voted 320-129
in favor of a bill calling for "a one-year-
long permission to make the necessary
arrangements for sending the Turkish
Armed Forces" into Syria in light of the
"negative impact of the ongoing crisis in
Syria on our national security, as well as
on regional stability and security."


Turkey's deputy prime minister Besir
Atalay explained that the bill is not a
declaration of war but is intended as a
deterrent against its neighbor.

Turkish parliament approves military intervention in Syria | The Times of Israel


Free Pub » Turecký parlament schválil invaze do Sýrie

I am confused of readed this news."Is Turkey declared war on Syria..or Said that we are Ready to attack Syria
 

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Perhaps you are unaware about terrorists crossing the border and seeking refuge and getting armed to the teeth to fight another day. I wonder why your drones are flying over pakistan ? something to do with terrorists crossing the border to attack nato bases in afghanistan and then sneaking back into pakistan ? could be :hmm:
Even if what you say about terrorists (you are speaking about FSA, I assume) is true, and it most likely is, your conclusion that NATO is trying to bait Syria does not necessarily follow from the recent exchange of artillery fire across the border between Syria and Turkey.

Edit: Although, SajeevJino's post above begs the question, what does NATO do if Turkey sends troops into Syria?
 
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Turkey isn't quite seen as the holy Saint in this conflict.

World leaders urge Turkey to step back from brink of war with Syria

World leaders urged Turkey to step back from the brink of war with Syria after its parliament voted to attack Bashar al-Assad's regime at will.
Russia tells NATO to stay away from Syria

(Reuters) - Russia told NATO and world powers on Tuesday they should not seek ways to intervene in Syria's civil war or set up buffer zones between rebels and government forces.

Moscow further called for restraint between NATO-member Turkey and Syria, where violence along their shared border has strained relations between the former allies.

Tensions have flared since a mortar round fired from inside Syria struck the territory of Turkey. Ankara has threatened to respond if the strike were repeated.

When asked by Interfax if Moscow worried whether the tense border situation could prompt NATO to intervene to defend Turkey, its easternmost member, Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov warned against any such step.

"In our contacts with partners in NATO and in the region, we are calling on them not to seek pretexts for carrying out a military scenario or to introduce initiatives such as humanitarian corridors or buffer zones."

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, one of Assad's most caustic critics, recently lashed out at Russia for blocking efforts at the U.N. Security Council to exert pressure on Assad and said Moscow's stance allowed massacres in Syria to continue.
 

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Prepare for war if you want to have peace, says Turkish PM
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Turkey should be prepared for war if it wants to have peace, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip ErdoÄŸan said today during a speech in Istanbul.

"We are not war-lovers, but we are not far from war either," ErdoÄŸan said. "The saying goes: 'prepare for war if you wish for peace.' So, war becomes the key for peace."

"They ask whether their kids will go to war? If need be, we, including myself, will all go all the way there," ErdoÄŸan said.

"What peace?" ErdoÄŸan shouted. "What peace?"

Regarding the vacation Syrian President Bashar al-Assad had previously taken in Bodrum on ErdoÄŸan's personal invitation, and the close relationship that used to exist between the two, ErdoÄŸan said there was nothing strange about it.

"If we are at peace, I will host leaders," ErdoÄŸan said.

POLITICS - Prepare for war if you want to have peace, says Turkish PM
 

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