Hariharan_kalarikkal
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High speed cameras basicallyWhat type of camera do they utilise?
Visible spectrum or not
High speed cameras basicallyWhat type of camera do they utilise?
So what i have read and understood from various sources , irst and flir incorporated on rafale are for air to air as well as air to ground role , but eots combine both capability in a single stealth shaped sensor for dedicated air to ground role as employing a common sensor for air to ground , and air to air was not considered beneficial by them , DAS is a much different system it employs , various sensor for maws , rwr , irst type role but for air to air , share info with radar , overall situational awareness in longer range , it consists of wide frequency range , more powerful .According to LM eots is a 4th gen Sniper which is inferior to xr. So it's das not eots. Das is also a eots with smaller resolution and very high sensitivity. And capable of tracking ICBM 1300km away, irst, maws, mlws, optical surveillance, etc. and the best thing in f35. No wonder why f35 have lots of software issues. Rafale, f16, f15, ef2000 etc having more advanced sensors than eots. Now LM wanted a brand new eots [advanced sinper xr].
I stick with f35 manufacture/suppliers in this case.
AN/AAQ-37 Distributed Aperture System (DAS) for the F-35
Northrop Grumman's AN/AAQ-37 Distributed Aperture System (DAS) for the F-35 is the only 360 degree, spherical situational awareness system in the electro-optical distributed aperture system (DAS).www.northropgrumman.com
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F-35 Electro Optical Targeting System (EOTS)
The Electro-Optical Targeting System (EOTS) is the world’s first sensor that combines forward-looking infrared (FLIR) and infrared search and track (IRST) functionality for an affordable, high-performance, multi-function system that provides precision air-to-air and air-to-surface targeting...www.lockheedmartin.com
bro ,DAS as i said is nothing but an irst BUT with six ir sensors, RWR are NOT a part of it.Irst also serve as mawsSo what i have read and understood from various sources , irst and flir incorporated on rafale are for air to air as well as air to ground role , but eots combine both capability in a single stealth shaped sensor for dedicated air to ground role as employing a common sensor for air to ground , and air to air was not considered beneficial by them , DAS is a much different system it employs , various sensor for maws , rwr , irst type role but for air to air , share info with radar , overall situational awareness in longer range , it consists of wide frequency range , more powerful .
Eots is a show beauty , which our das can incorporate without that particular structure , US didn't do it cause they have separate vendor for both system .
So don't worry about situational awareness , we will have it much better than present f 35 , which won't change much in 2030 , targeting pod shouldn't be external as that part of work can be incorporated in DAS easily as in f 35 , but we can add different sensor to improve capability , also amca have longer nose cone , will definitely use it for sensor incorporation.
We should take this discussion forward with ew suite , it's components , development , requirements , they already are developing vivialdi gan arrangement , active sealth , wing tip ew suite .
I'm not worried, but gets confused with some posts. In f35 das provide irst, osf functions of rafale plus more. Eots similar to talios pod.So what i have read and understood from various sources , irst and flir incorporated on rafale are for air to air as well as air to ground role , but eots combine both capability in a single stealth shaped sensor for dedicated air to ground role as employing a common sensor for air to ground , and air to air was not considered beneficial by them , DAS is a much different system it employs , various sensor for maws , rwr , irst type role but for air to air , share info with radar , overall situational awareness in longer range , it consists of wide frequency range , more powerful .
Eots is a show beauty , which our das can incorporate without that particular structure , US didn't do it cause they have separate vendor for both system .
So don't worry about situational awareness , we will have it much better than present f 35 , which won't change much in 2030 , targeting pod shouldn't be external as that part of work can be incorporated in DAS easily as in f 35 , but we can add different sensor to improve capability , also amca have longer nose cone , will definitely use it for sensor incorporation.
We should take this discussion forward with ew suite , it's components , development , requirements , they already are developing vivialdi gan arrangement , active sealth , wing tip ew suite .
first of all DAS's full name is "eodas" (Electro optical distributed aperture system) which means six irst sensors spread over the body ,rafale's OSF(Optronique secteur frontal) is french name for (one ir sensor + tv camera +laser range finder) ,spectra is ew suiteI'm not worried, but gets confused with some posts. In f35 das provide irst, osf functions of rafale plus more. Eots similar to talios pod.
AMCA right now don't have eots, but that's not a problem. Both das and eots having ir sensors, same for rafale, osf and spectra having ir sensors.
I already mentioned those. If you see das ir sensors providing maws, in Rafale maws is a part of spectra.first of all DAS's full name is "eodas" (Electro optical distributed aperture system) which means six irst sensors spread over the body ,rafale's OSF(Optronique secteur frontal) is french name for (one ir sensor + tv camera +laser range finder) ,spectra is ew suite
Compared to AI mockup , it's spine is too seperate , it has to be blended in fueslage , also nose cone is bit short and narrow
I don't know why people keep saying that!.. How can they possibly know?View attachment 80187View attachment 80188View attachment 80189View attachment 80190
@Bleh, the canard positioning should be a bit more forward to be more effective, IDK why LCA-AF-MK2 and TEDBF both have Canards just above their Delta wing....
also canards must hve optimized for less radar wave returns although they r not good for stealthI don't know why people keep saying that!.. How can they possibly know?
There are models like Kfir that have overlapping canards, even Rafale canards are over its wing's LERX. This should vary depending on the design & airflow around it.
Yes the edge alignment is necessary for stealth, unlike in J-20. KF-X actually had a good stealthy canarded version, before the project imploded...also canards must hve optimized for less radar wave returns although they r not good for stealth
i liked kf x as a 4.5 jet its a tedbf af ,stealthy weapon pods will make it deadly also das like system will be cherry on topYes the edge alignment is necessary for stealth, unlike in J-20. KF-X actually had a good stealthy canarded version, before the project imploded...
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If well aligned then they produce no more drag or radarwave reflection than normal tailplanes do.
Now guys, do keep in mind that, the Teddy is just an initial concept only going into wind-tunnels! The final shit may look very different.
i know its kind weird but i want the body of kfx with retractable probe and sensor suite of mk2, this wud be enough for whole paf to piss off ,also compete with j20 ,j31 effectivelyi liked kf x as a 4.5 jet its a tedbf af ,stealthy weapon pods will make it deadly also das like system will be cherry on top