Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[jackprince]

They won't win anywhere , they won due to America's ignorance nothing else.

I don't know.

Pakis are the vanguard of China. BRI is the tool of China and given Russia's poor economic condition, China may look better and better bet for the Stans innnear future.

Don't forget that the Stans alone may be insignificant, but they are placed in an economic strategic location between China and Europe.

BRI isn't limited to China securing its access to oil and access to Africa only. It is planned as tentacles of octopus having its head in China. If China's Afghanistan gamble pays off, it will surely use it to leverage influence in the Stans.

 

[Lost user]

I don't know.

Pakis are the vanguard of China. BRI is the tool of China and given Russia's poor economic condition, China may look better and better bet for the Stans innnear future.

Don't forget that the Stans alone may be insignificant, but they are placed in an economic strategic location between China and Europe.

BRI isn't limited to China securing its access to oil and access to Africa only. It is planned as tentacles of octopus having its head in China. If China's Afghanistan gamble pays off, it will surely use it to leverage influence in the Stans.

Central Asian stans are already part of BRI and closely coupled with China economically.. Also, the stans share a thousand kilometer border with China. If an Islamic emirate establishes itself in Central Asia, it is only a matter of time before Xinjiang burns..
Spreading Islamism is more of a Pakistani project, and it might just happen that Uncle Sam would be happy with it..

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Central Asian stans are already part of BRI and closely coupled with China economically.. Also, the stans share a thousand kilometer border with China. If an Islamic emirate establishes itself in Central Asia, it is only a matter of time before Xinjiang burns..
Spreading Islamism is more of a Pakistani project, and it might just happen that Uncle Sam would be happy with it..

If that happens we must not support unkil then .
Remember in any manner its Pakistan which is the ultimate enemy , talibs or chinks may bugger all.
Pakistan is the greatest threat to India greater than China.
So india and Russia both should be prudent to control the porks .
If anything happens in kashmir, it will be because of Pakistan and Pakistanis don't understand a thing until they are dead

 

[Srinivas_K]

I don't know.

Pakis are the vanguard of China. BRI is the tool of China and given Russia's poor economic condition, China may look better and better bet for the Stans innnear future.

Don't forget that the Stans alone may be insignificant, but they are placed in an economic strategic location between China and Europe.

BRI isn't limited to China securing its access to oil and access to Africa only. It is planned as tentacles of octopus having its head in China. If China's Afghanistan gamble pays off, it will surely use it to leverage influence in the Stans.

Once China loses steam as it is happening right now in this decade, BRI loses significance.
Sea route is seen as the secure route.

 

[Detective Pennington]

Central Asian stans are already part of BRI and closely coupled with China economically.. Also, the stans share a thousand kilometer border with China. If an Islamic emirate establishes itself in Central Asia, it is only a matter of time before Xinjiang burns..
Spreading Islamism is more of a Pakistani project, and it might just happen that Uncle Sam would be happy with it..

I can actually see this. This is Pork selling itself to USA and playing a double game with USA and China. Islamism seeping into Xinjiang through central Asia would piss off both Russia and China, but would keep uncle sam from ass-raping Pak for backstabbing them in Afghanistan. They'll go and say the same thing to China that they did to uncle Sam, "we are helpless to do anything about it, we can't fully control them".

 

[Lost user]

If that happens we must not support unkil then .
Remember in any manner its Pakistan which is the ultimate enemy , talibs or chinks may bugger all.
Pakistan is the greatest threat to India greater than China.
So india and Russia both should be prudent to control the porks .
If anything happens in kashmir, it will be because of Pakistan and Pakistanis don't understand a thing until they are dead

Now that Uncle Sam is out of Afghanistan, Pakistan will never prick India beyond a point. By beyond a point, I mean something like the Mumbai or Parliament attacks..

 

[Detective Pennington]

Now that Uncle Sam is out of Afghanistan, Pakistan will never prick India beyond a point. By beyond a point, I mean something like the Mumbai or Parliament attacks..

Why though, what does uncle Sam have to do with this? Lack of necessity of Pakistan meaning US won't protect them? There is still China to protect them. And the aforementioned theory of Pak selling its ass to America to "accidentally" overlook Talib ideology seeping into central Asia and then into Xinjiang meaning America might still have a secret use for Pakistan, which is why US MSM and DoD isn't even talking about Pakistan.

 

[Lost user]

Why though, what does uncle Sam have to do with this?

Because India would never launch a devastating attack on Pakistan, which would put US "War on terror" at stake.. US was utterly dependent on Pakistan air and land routes for logistics into Afghanistan.. Also, the lives of American soldiers were at stake, as the ISI could have killed American soldiers through Haqqanis..( Hundreds of American soldiers have been killed by Haqqanis )..
Now, that War on Terror is officially over; India is no longer under such a restraint.. Of course, this doesn't mean that another Uri or Pulwama would not happen..They will.. But, it is very unlikely that Pakistan will launch a 26/11 kind of major terror attack on Indian cities outside Jammu Kashmir..

Note: Musharraf would never have found the balls to attack the Indian parliament had it not been for US presence in Afghanistan..

 

[Detective Pennington]

Because India would never launch a devastating attack on Pakistan, which would put US "War on terror" at stake.. US was utterly dependent on Pakistan air and land routes for logistics.. Also, the lives of American soldiers were at stake, as the ISI could have killed American soldiers through Haqqanis..( Hundreds of American soldiers have been killed by Haqqanis )..
Now, that War on Terror is officially over; India is no longer under such a restraint.. Of course, this doesn't mean that another Uri or Pulwama would not happen..They will.. But, it is very unlikely that Pakistan will launch a 26/11 kind of major terror attack on Indian cities outside Jammu Kashmir..
Note: Musharraf would never have found the balls to attack the Indian parliament had it not been for US presence in Afghanistan..

You think China would protect Pakistan from such retaliation? We usually say they will protect Pakistan from an invasion into POK/GB due to strategic assets and BRI, but China wouldn't protect Pak from say losing Sindh?

 

[Lost user]

You think China would protect Pakistan from such retaliation? We usually say they will protect Pakistan from an invasion into POK/GB due to strategic assets and BRI, but China wouldn't protect Pak from say losing Sindh?

China can't do much without risking major reverses and hence loss of face..

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

Because India would never launch a devastating attack on Pakistan, which would put US "War on terror" at stake.. US was utterly dependent on Pakistan air and land routes for logistics into Afghanistan.. Also, the lives of American soldiers were at stake, as the ISI could have killed American soldiers through Haqqanis..( Hundreds of American soldiers have been killed by Haqqanis )..
Now, that War on Terror is officially over; India is no longer under such a restraint.. Of course, this doesn't mean that another Uri or Pulwama would not happen..They will.. But, it is very unlikely that Pakistan will launch a 26/11 kind of major terror attack on Indian cities outside Jammu Kashmir..

Note: Musharraf would never have found the balls to attack the Indian parliament had it not been for US presence in Afghanistan..

Another possibility is that the Americans now will be dependent on pakis for influence in AFG and their political influence increases in US.

 

[Lost user]

Another possibility is that the Americans now will be dependent on pakis for influence in AFG and their political influence increases in US.

Not really.. Americans were and always will be dependent on Pakistan for influence in Central Asia until regime change happens in Iran. But, the political stakes are much lower for any US administration, now that the US military and US civilians are out of Afghanistan.. Just imagine the panic in US when Pakistan closed its supply routes after US attack on Pak border troops.. Pakistan was in a position to pull the plug on America's War on terror.. If things went south, The political cost for any US President was much higher when thousands of US troops, embassy staff and tens of thousands of US citizens were based in Afghanistan.. All those American lives were the responsibility of the US government, and America indirectly depended on Pakistan to keep them alive..
So, although Pakistan's importance to America remains, the political stakes for any US administration in Pakistan's well being is lower..

 

[Detective Pennington]

The question is, what is India’s next move? This is the way I see it:

1. US has three options:
A. Leave the region completely. Could be possible due to war weariness of the American public.
B. Bully Pak to try to get them to push Taliban to central asia and into Xinjiang to fuck with China.
C. Try to make some kind of relationship with Taliban to get them away from China/Russia, and maybe allow US bases in the future.

2. China has a few options also.
A. Get Afghanistan involved in the BRI to provide an alternative to Pak.
B. Get Pak to clamp down on Talibs to prevent infiltration into Xinjiang.

Pak:
1. Get Taliban to remove all Indian assets in Afghanistan making it harder to fund BLA or TTP or whatever.
2. Get Talibs to host Al Qaeda and ISIS-K and LeT/JeM to be used in Kashmir
3. Get Talibans themselves to attack Kashmir
4. Get any of the above to attack rest of India.

Russia:
1. Try to establish a relationship with Talibs to prevent islamism from infiltrating central Asia.
2. Sell them weapons and work with them in BRI

India:
1. Establish some kind of economic relationship with the Taliban to deter attacks into Kashmir.
2. Launch surgical strikes in Pakistan after Kashmir is attacked.
3. Attack Pakistan in Sindh or POK/GB after an attack on Kashmir or the rest of India. China may intervene if this happens.

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

(Confirmed updates. Those fellas who don't believe can press this option )

Russia, India, Iran & Tajikistan(with tacit backing of US & UK) have already reached an agreement to exercise military options aimed at evicting the Taliban through military force from all non-Pashtun areas of northern Afghanistan.

Afghan Special forces & intelligence operatives trained by US & UK(3000+ in numbers) who were evacuated to Qatar between Aug 15 & Aug 31 will be dispatched to Tajikistan where Ayni airbase will become the HQ of resistance till northern Afghanistan is freed.

& as I stated earlier: "Taliban inside Panjshir is in same position as Pakistan army in Siachen"... & this reality won't change by the propaganda of 5th generation warriors of Al-bakistan.

The International North South Transport Corridor(INSTC) is of prime importance to Russia, Iran, India & some of the Central Asian nations.

Russia continues to look at BRI with suspense & China wants to make INSTC irrelevant.


As soon as china made the declaration of investing 400 billion in Iran, fake news propped up about Iran pushing India out of Chabahar & several other projects... later Iran clarified its stance.

& Indian mind... which draws logic from examples... assumed that... as Pakistan lied down with legs spread for the chinese investments... same way Iranians will act slavishly... but that's not gonna happen.

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[Indrajit]

Good watch.( She makes a similar point made by Swarajya that UK policy is now beholdened to the muslim/pakistani votebank)

Britain, Islamism, And The Wages Of Defeat

Vote-bank politics has become so integrated into the British electoral system that the threat of Islamism and minority appeasement are now two sides of the only coinage in circulation.

swarajyamag.com

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

The International North South Transport Corridor(INSTC) is of prime importance to Russia, Iran, India & some of the Central Asian nations.

Russia continues to look at BRI with suspense & China wants to make INSTC irrelevant.


As soon as china made the declaration of investing 400 billion in Iran, fake news propped up about Iran pushing India out of Chabahar & several other projects... later Iran clarified its stance.

& Indian mind... which draws logic from examples... assumed that... as Pakistan lied down with legs spread for the chinese investments... same way Iranians will act slavishly... but that's not gonna happen.

Well AJIT DOVAL sure has reminded that patrushev...

13 years has passed and not a brick was planted.

Not only this ccpfags also attempted to drill oil in the Amu Darya basin. That fell through due to issues with both uzbacks and random shiet.

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

(Post karne se pehle bata dein... सभी अति संवेदनशील माननीय सदस्यों के लिए ये ऑप्शन available hai)

In coming weeks India & Russia may make an announcement regarding the formal recognition of the Afghan government led by Acting President Amrullah Saleh, while denying recognition to any Taliban-instituted interim government for as long as the Taliban’s leaders remain sanctioned by the UNSC(Talibunnies will remain sanctioned in forseeable future)

The CIA also wants India to explore the possibility of allowing USAF E-11A Battlefield Airborne Communications Node (BACN) platforms and combatant-elements of the US Special Operations Command (SOCOM) to operate out of IAF air bases in Ladakh UT, like Leh and Thoise for conducting the so-called ‘over-the-horizon’ counter-terror operations

In late April, when William Burns made its first trip to Islamabad and sought the usage of air bases owned by the PA and PAF for conducting over-the-horizon counter-terror operations inside Afghanistan, the Pakistanis had demanded a variety of restrictions in exchange for the use of such bases, and had demanded that they sign off on any targets that either the CIA or the US military would want to hit inside Afghanistan. This time, the US is taking a more hard-line approach by enlisting India’s support—meaning if push comes to shove, the US and India together will use military coercion (using both countries’ air force assets) to unilaterally declare no-fly zones over Gilgit-Baltistan for creating the air corridors required for accessing northern and north-eastern Afghanistan. This can well be another reason why both the PA and Pakistan Air Force PAF activated their air-defence sites in PoJK on September 5.

(लगता है GB का समय निकट है)

Let the Slugfest begin!

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Modiji addressing brics.