Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan 2021: Impact on India

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

india needs its own independent policy .. we are the one who ll face danger and we were the one kept out of all negotiations .. There must be action plans designed previously on how to respond in case of major terror incident like pulwama or 26/11 . And this shd include air strike on pok training camps , killing haqani by bombing his office , training camps in mainland pakistan , striking even Afgan parliament or ISI head quarter in worst case scenario like 26/11 .. All this require growing some balls and calculating future possibilities if such actions are taken ..

How much talibanifags shall be committed for the protection of sand in afghanistan? Coomers also require lemmings to protect from daesh and resistance. They need funds a lot of it that is sure.

 

[chetan_chpd]

You'll see that within 10 years, the Pakis with the help of the Taliban will start pushing or training fighters in Xinjiang and create hell.

there is no other choice for Paxtan...they MUST create trouble in Xinjiang and double cross the Chinese...otherwise they cannot sustain their begger economy only depending on China...

they will take money from USA for that...and vice versa...its a dangerous game...they must keep the ball moving on both side otherwise both USA and china will F*%k Paxtan in da a$$ if they cannot use Paxtan

 

[Jimih]

We have to pull out from NFU treaty to send the chinks a message, and then attack and capture Sindh in retaliation for any attack on Kashmir.

Capturing Sindh must not be the Indian military goal as it is not a disputed area, Indian Military planners should look forward to capture PoJK (GB) by taking Iran on board, majority of Gilgit-Baltistan residents are Shias (aproximately 39.85 %) and few amount of Tibetian Buddhists are also residing in Baltistan region.

Baltistan is strategically significant to India; the Kargil and Siachen Wars were fought in its vicinity. And I see collaboration of Chinkis-Porkis in this sector only, thus resulting in a 2-front scenario.

Chinese have built a 36km road further into Shaksgam Valley from their position at the junction of Oprang River and Shaksgam River, which is the border point between PoJK and China (as per the 1963 Sino-Pakistan border treaty).

If China continues to further develop this road, they could reach the base of Urdok Glacier, which lies on other side of Siachen Glacier, across the Siachen-Muztagh section of the Karakoram Range, and this will be alarming for India.

Maps Courtesy- Rohit Vats

 

[Detective Pennington]

Capturing Sindh must not be the Indian military goal as it is not a disputed area, Indian Military planners should look forward to capture PoJK (GB) by taking Iran on board, majority of Gilgit-Baltistan residents are Shias (aproximately 39.85 %) and few amount of Tibetian Buddhists are also residing in Baltistan region.

Baltistan is strategically significant to India; the Kargil and Siachen Wars were fought in its vicinity. And I see collaboration of Chinkis-Porkis in this sector only, thus resulting in a 2-front scenario.

Chinese have built a 36km road further into Shaksgam Valley from their position at the junction of Oprang River and Shaksgam River, which is the border point between PoJK and China (as per the 1963 Sino-Pakistan border treaty).

If China continues to further develop this road, they could reach the base of Urdok Glacier, which lies on other side of Siachen Glacier, across the Siachen- Muztagh section of the Karakoram Range, and this will be alarming for India.


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Maps Courtesy- Rohit Vats

Problem is that POK/GB is at the heart of CPEC. China might intervene anyway even if we send the message by withdrawing from NFU. By attacking Sindh and combining it with nuclear deterrent, you make China look crazy by interfering.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Yes sindh must be the target as invading punjab would be too hard but sindh is easiest to invade due to it being probably the smallest province.

 

[Detective Pennington]

Thing is, we all know that the Indian government doesn't have the balls to do this, especially INC, who will just do the usual virtue signalling speech and then submit. How do we get the Indian government to get involved? Yogi? Or will he be the same as Modi? If you write a letter to the Indian government, would they listen?

 

[DownWithCCP]

Capturing Sindh must not be the Indian military goal as it is not a disputed area, Indian Military planners should look forward to capture PoJK (GB) by taking Iran on board, majority of Gilgit-Baltistan residents are Shias (aproximately 39.85 %) and few amount of Tibetian Buddhists are also residing in Baltistan region.

Baltistan is strategically significant to India; the Kargil and Siachen Wars were fought in its vicinity. And I see colaboration of Chinkis-Porkis in this sector only, thus resulting in a 2-front scenario.

Chinese have built a 36km road further into Shaksgam Valley from their position at the junction of Oprang River and Shaksgam River, which is the border point between PoJK and China (as per the 1963 Sino-Pakistan border treaty).

If China continues to further develop this road, they could reach the base of Urdok Glacier, which lies on other side of Siachen Glacier, across the Siachen- Muztagh section of the Karakoram Range.


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Maps Courtesy- Rohit Vats

The idea that is floated to avoid 2 front situation is to somehow keep Xinjiang and Tibet burning so most of their resources are diverted there and in an opportune moment we strike and take it back, there are a lot of problems with this idea:
1) It is very difficult to create heavy insurgency situation in Xinjiang and Tibet because even if such a situation is created, the Chinese state has a lot of "unconventional" means to quell dissent and it has already clearly demonstrated that it will not hesitate to use those means to crush any uprising.
2) Connectivity and logistics are other major concerns that one will have to deal with when fighting in those terrain, where the roads end? How much of the area is connected via roads in the first place?

 

[Jimih]

By attacking Sindh and combining it with nuclear deterrent, you make China look crazy by interfering.

India will cross IB only when it will face heat at LoC during an active war, just as we saw in 65' war.

 

[doreamon]

Tajikh facing the heat due to panjshir resistance ..

 

[Jimih]

The idea that is floated to avoid 2 front situation is to somehow keep Xinjiang and Tibet burning so most of their resources are diverted there and in an opportune moment we strike and take it back, there are a lot of problems with this idea:

Xinjiang will burn only if Turkey (NATO) and Taliban wants.

And about Tibet, what strategic depth we gained after hosting lakhs of Tibetian refugees in India along with their spritual leader HH Dalai Lama? We didnt even allowed them to protest in front of Chinese embassy in New Delhi.

Will India be able to choose next Dalai Lama in collaboration with the current Dalai Lama and Tibetian govt in exile, thus nullifying China's own choice of Dalai Lama?

Do folks in GoI think strategically?

 

[Detective Pennington]

India will cross IB only when it will face heat at LoC during an active war, just as we saw in 65' war.

wouldn't another attack on Kashmir constitute a major act of war?

 

[another_armchair]

wouldn't another attack on Kashmir constitute a major act of war?

What do you think happened on the morning of 27/02/2019 and the series of events that happened following it?

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

What do you think happened on the morning of 27/02/2019 ?

We didn't escalate.

 

[another_armchair]

We didn't escalate.

What makes you believe we will escalate in the event of a major attack?

Yes, Balakot bombing will remain at the back of their minds but will it deter them from pulling off another spectacular terror attack?

Maybe no. Maybe yes.

Only a major event and our response will tell how far the envelope was pushed this time.

Till then, pages upon pages can be written or should I dare say, wasted in scenarios.

 

[maximus777]

What do you think happened on the morning of 27/02/2019 ?

Indian govt pulled a koi nahi ghussa! Same old tripe about how PAF planes never crossed LOC/IB garbage. Standoff weapons dont need crossing any borders and our imbecile politicos dont get it. That should have resulted in serious escalation, but we were left with justifying a F16 kill which no one outside of India believes happened. Such a loss of face!

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

As soon as durand line is deleted then illegal slave porkystan gets deleted automatically. One of many ways to delete ofcourse.

 

[Detective Pennington]

We didn't escalate.

Exactly, if all we do is smack them back, they will never end. As long as China (and maybe US still) takes Pakistan's continued existence seriously, they will say stupid shit like "please show restraint" and "we hope India and Pakistan can work out their issues" etc. etc. constantly putting them in the same sentence. All US leaders but Trump refused to see India or Pakistan separately. This also is what leads to not taking denuclearization of Pakistan seriously, because it's all viewed in the context of maintaining balance with India.

India needs to show some balls and say "We won't go along with your grand design. We won't eliminate Hindutva and embrace cultural Marxism. We won't just stay in our place and behave whenever Pakistan does something. We will take matters into our own hands".

 

[sorcerer]

India, Russia warn against terror groups operating from Afghanistan


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India and Russia have warned against foreign militant groups operating from Afghanistan -- posing a threat to Central Asia and to India.
The two sides agreed the Taliban must be held to their promises, which included respect for basic human rights, including for women, and not to allow their territory to be used by militants groups.
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Russia fears turmoil in Afghanistan could spill over into Central Asia, which it regards as its southern defensive flank and as a sphere of influence from which radical Islamist threats could emanate.

India, Russia warn against terror groups operating from Afghanistan

India and Russia have warned against foreign militant groups operating from Afghanistan -- posing a threat to Central Asia and to India.

www.indiatoday.in

what was Russia doing trying to overthrow the Afghan Govt and handing it over to Taliban on a Silver platter?

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

India, Russia warn against terror groups operating from Afghanistan


3 minutes



India and Russia have warned against foreign militant groups operating from Afghanistan -- posing a threat to Central Asia and to India.
The two sides agreed the Taliban must be held to their promises, which included respect for basic human rights, including for women, and not to allow their territory to be used by militants groups.
...

Russia fears turmoil in Afghanistan could spill over into Central Asia, which it regards as its southern defensive flank and as a sphere of influence from which radical Islamist threats could emanate.

India, Russia warn against terror groups operating from Afghanistan

India and Russia have warned against foreign militant groups operating from Afghanistan -- posing a threat to Central Asia and to India.

www.indiatoday.in

what was Russia doing trying to overthrow the Afghan Govt and handing it over to Taliban on a Silver platter?

Roos got klpd , though their men abdullah abdullah and karzai will be in power now see who is in power.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

was Russia doing trying to overthrow the Afghan Govt and handing it over to Taliban on a Silver platter?

They just hate amreekunt xd.