Sukhoi PAK FA

[gadeshi]

True that Su27 T-10 would need to be replaced, but would the replacement be on 1:1 basis? 1 T-50 for each T--10 replaced? Would end up being very very expensive

If this will be stretched in time then no.

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[TPFscopes]

Where have you found such a tremendous bullshit?
MiG-35 is intended for export only cause there is no place for medium fighter in VKS structure.
And of course MiG-35 will not be so cheaper than Su-35S to make such a decision

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Russia already ordered 30 mig-35 and planned for 170 more.
https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20170127/1486613426.html

 

[gadeshi]

Russia already ordered 30 mig-35 and planned for 170 more.
https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20170127/1486613426.html

So what?
30 planes are shortened 2-squadrons Air Regiment (will be based in Privolzhskiy foreign pilots training center) and 6 planes will be taken to several test centers.
This is sane as export support order.
Planning 170 more is only planning, MiG-related statements should be believed with caution
BTW, don't forget Syrian AF feeding from Russian sources now...

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[TPFscopes]

So what?
30 planes are shortened 2-squadrons Air Regiment (will be based in Privolzhskiy foreign pilots training center) and 6 planes will be taken to several test centers.
This is sane as export support order.
Planning 170 more is only planning, MiG-related statements should be believed with caution
BTW, don't forget Syrian AF feeding from Russian sources now...

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200 jets . It is still a huge number to aid an ally (Syria)
Isn't it?

Russia ordered all 30 migs with single seat seat configuration.
No MiG-35D was ordered by Russian side.
How they use it for training purposes?

 

[gadeshi]

200 jets . It is still a huge number to aid an ally (Syria)
Isn't it?

Russia ordered all 30 migs with single seat seat configuration.
No MiG-35D was ordered by Russian side.
How they use it for training purposes?

1 - They ordered 30 MiG-35 without indicating indexes. So standard squadron is 10 single and 2 twin seaters.
2 - They will use MiG-35 for combat, not LIFT trainings. LIFT role is put on Yak-130-s shoulders. Don't you hesitate to adjust single-seated F-35A on Luke AFB as training wing?
3 - There is no even 80+ MiG-29-s left in Russian AF and even a need for lite fighter itself is a big question. There will be up to 64 of them in whole VKS - 36 combat (a regiment) in Erebuni AB in Armeniya and training regiment in Privolzhskiy + some test planes in Akhtubinsk GLITS tactics and weapons test center, nothing more.
4 - There are another allies to support except Syria such as Lybia and Serbiya.

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[TPFscopes]

1 - They ordered 30 MiG-35 without indicating indexes. So standard squadron is 10 single and 2 twin seaters.
2 - They will use MiG-35 for combat, not LIFT trainings. LIFT role is put on Yak-130-s shoulders. Don't you hesitate to adjust single-seated F-35A on Luke AFB as training wing?
3 - There is no even 80+ MiG-29-s left in Russian AF and even a need for lite fighter itself is a big question. There will be up to 64 of them in whole VKS - 36 combat (a regiment) in Erebuni AB in Armeniya and training regiment in Privolzhskiy + some test planes in Akhtubinsk GLITS tactics and weapons test center, nothing more.
4 - There are another allies to support except Syria such as Lybia and Serbiya.

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Mig-35 in current form is not suitable for LIFT Role hence will not be selected.

As per present economy projections, Russia will opt Mig-35 for Su-27 & Mig-29 Replacement
http://www.janes.com/article/67285/russia-to-replace-current-light-fighters-with-mig-35

 

[gadeshi]

Mig-35 in current form is not suitable for LIFT Role hence will not be selected.
As per present economy projections, Russia will opt Mig-35 for Su-27 & Mig-29 Replacement
http://www.janes.com/article/67285/russia-to-replace-current-light-fighters-with-mig-35

1 - Janes is rather incompetent in economy, especially in non-financial-exchange based one
2 - How can expensive MEDIUM fighter substitute EQUAL COSTED heavy ones??? Janes analitics should stop to take heavy synthetic drugs
3 - You should stop taking heavy synthetic drugs from Janes as well, cause you cannot make difference between combat and LIFT trainings.

 

[TPFscopes]

1 - Janes is rather incompetent in economy, especially in non-financial-exchange based one
2 - How can expensive MEDIUM fighter substitute EQUAL COSTED heavy ones??? Janes analitics should stop to take heavy synthetic drugs .

Jane's is a reputed Defense news source from many years

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3 - You should stop taking heavy synthetic drugs from Janes as well, cause you cannot make difference between combat and LIFT trainings.

You're too much addicted to weeds. Stop it ASAP.
Only you are here , who is comparing LIFT jet with a Multi-Role combat jet.

 

[gadeshi]

Jane's is a reputed Defense news source from many years

Awyeah? I remember its stupid articles about Su-27 and MiG-29 that had no connection to reality and official sources even when the data was not searet just after USSR collapse.

You're too much addicted to weeds. Stop it ASAP.
Only you are here , who is comparing LIFT jet with a Multi-Role combat jet.

It's you, not me who has said that MiG-35 cannot be used in training squadrons and regiments due to their single seat status.
I was the man who appealled you to think before write cause single-seater F-35A on Luke AB are belonged to training wing exactly
Yak-130 has reconfigurable FCS to simulate ANY fighter / bomber / strike, so LIFT duties will lay on its shoulders, just as I've said earlier.
You should stop to translate BS ASAP and start ASAP to learn reading

 

[TPFscopes]

Awyeah? I remember its stupid articles about Su-27 and MiG-29 that had no connection to reality and official sources even when the data was not searet just after USSR collapse.

Reduced order number of T-50 to 12 , is quite fine to prove my words.
I repeat my words, Russia will not going to induct In large numbers.

Wait and watch,
Cheers

 

[gadeshi]

Reduced order number of T-50 to 12 , is quite fine to prove my words.
I repeat my words, Russia will not going to induct In large numbers.

Wait and watch,
Cheers

Your words are BS.
12 is a standard pilot batch for real use trials (LRIP-1). Those planes are intended to weapons and tactics trials and development in GLITS in Akhtubinsk.
After that pilot batch will be done the first 48 planes order will follow - just remember Su-35S acceptance and IOC management process.

I wonder why so many people refuse to think and analyze things before writing BS?


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[kunal1123]

5 person committee report on whether to go ahead with FGFA is suppose to come out on Monday.............
does any body have any news?????????????????

 

[TPFscopes]

9th PAK FA prototype seen with external drop tanks.
The PAK FA much like the other low observability aircraft can jettison the fuel tanks as well as the external pylons in an engagement to drastically reduce RCS.
The T-50-9-2 is also the first PAK FA airframe with a digital shark camo for a lower visual profile

 

[Armand2REP]

BTW, don't forget Syrian AF feeding from Russian sources now...

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Syrian AF is a paper entity at this point. VVS is running the air campaign.

 

[gadeshi]

Syrian AF is a paper entity at this point. VVS is running the air campaign.

Syrian AF have up to 48 different planes in combat ready condition, including recently gifted Su-24M-2 Gefest (12-planes squadron) and MLU-updated MiG-29SM capable of R-77E-1 usage (12 as well).

 

[gadeshi]

9th PAK FA prototype seen with external drop tanks.
The PAK FA much like the other low observability aircraft can jettison the fuel tanks as well as the external pylons in an engagement to drastically reduce RCS.
The T-50-9-2 is also the first PAK FA airframe with a digital shark camo for a lower visual profile

Wonderful pic, thanks!
Those DT are PTB-3000 3000 liters.
BTW, there is no T-50-9-2, there is T-50-6-2.
T-50-9 pixel camo is an experiment to test EOTS detection range and probability impact.

 

[bhramos]

Possible form of articles 30 to T-50 PAK FA.

 

[gadeshi]

Possible form of articles 30 to T-50 PAK FA.

No.
These are fan-made models from an old patents.

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[smestarz]

A plane is designed based on some requirements and the planes are often purchased based on the role that the plane is supposed to perform, and this is on basis of the how the country or its air force leadership sees its role.

For example.
In pre cold war era, Russia had the most nos of MiG-21s and which were densely concentrated, because MiG-21 was a short range interceptor/fighter, and hence squadrons were located in such a way that they cover each other and their range of interception overlaps each other. For deep strike they had planes like Su-24 and Tu-22 etc. Thus there was specialised plane for mission. But then with getting planes like MiG-29 and Su-30 SM Russia moved away from short range planes and went more for Medium and long ranged planes. The advantages were that this in itself became a force multiplier. Since the planes had longer range, the squadrons could be placed further away and yet be more effective as at a time they would be able to bring in 2-3 squadrons worth of planes at a specific area if needed which was not possible with Mig-21. Further the planes could now carry different missiles for different roles and hence cost of operations were reduced. This is required for big country like Russia and with plane like Su-30 and Su-35, they would be able to have air dominance over enemy territory not because of numbers but because of quality of planes, missiles. and Avionics.

On other hand country like singapore which does not aspire to dominate, will be comfortable to fly planes like F-16 because they dont need to cover a large territory.

For France Rafale comes as an ideal plane as its not a big country as Russia, Thus medium range planes like Rafale suit their requirements. For UK, Eurofighter is an overkill but considering that its an island and wants to keep its ambition for territorial dominance and so Eurofighter becomes ideal for it, Specially to counter planes like Su-30. For smaller countries and even Switzerland the ideal plane is smaller plane like Gripen. Rafale would be an expensive overkill since Switzerland is a land locked country and surrounded by countries with whom it has amicable relationship

So. we need planes like Su-30 MKI to provide air dominance, and planes like LCA to be used as interceptors to have CAPS and to protect important industrial zones and cities.

 

[Narasimh]

Air commodore Trilok Chand seems positive about the FGFA developments since 2015.
Also some positive hints on AMCA development.