Small arms and Light Weapons

[Johny_Baba]

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i would murder the person who did this.

You deserve 500 falaka lashes on your feet soles as they do in Arabia , and 50 kicks in your testicles ( done anywhere ) and left out in the sun without water for a day ( Roman style )
Just so that you barely live for posting this abomination.
And the person who made this should be slashed with a knife on his thigh and his wound be burn by placing a piece of khaira wood. ( As they did in magadha , ajatshatru killed his father bimbisara in similar manner by burning all of his wounds with khaira tree barks )
Next he his tongue must be pulled out by a plier as they did in good old bathist iraq and his underside of the cheeks burned by cigerette burns .
Finally he should be fed with copius amount of honey and milk and later left on a the shore of a filthy pond in a raft near a ant hill , as that person person will erupt in loose motions , he will get dirty and invite ants and flies to feast his body alive as they did in ancient persia.
@Spadex
@ManhattanProject
@MisraZ
@Tactical Doge
@FalconSlayers
@ALBY

what is problem, it was just a tech demonstrator plus prototype named SC-129 (some say it was named STs-129), though receiver clearly has "TKB-0145" written on it which was originally an experimental 6x49mm sniper rifle project forked from bullpup version of SVD, i already covered it up here in previous post here

not much info is available about this SC-129, i think they reused TKB-0145 receiver on making this prototype here; and this time making it in another experimental (now in use) cartridge 12.7x55mm
This SC-129 most likely got developed further into post-soviet Russia as ShAK-12 bullpup .50 cal "assault rifle"

in fact; during late 80s Soviets themselves tried to develop a rimless intermediate calibre round in 6x49mm "Unified" to potentially replace their standard 7.62x54mmR and ALSO made a PKM derivative AND a Dragunov derivative in that calibre;

top to bottom; 5.45x39mm, 6x49mm 'Unified' and 7.62x54mmR

top to bottom; sniper rifles TKB-0145K, SVK, SVK-S; later twos being Dragunov derivatives

top to bottom; a PKM derivative in 6x49mm ;Unified; left-right sides and one production model at some museum, and actual 6x49mm belt with some prototype ammos; notice how it's very MG-42-ish non-disintegrating link belt made for push-type cartridge feeding mechanisms unlike one on actual standard PKM

so even Soviets were going ahead with proper redesign of PKM in late 80s-early 90s; might as well guess that even they realised all these things regd muh rimmed reliability etc and decided to go ahead with something more practical; but unfortunately for them disintegration of the USSR ruined everything from this true intermediate calibre and weapons for that to mighty Buran space shuttle

Again, tech demonstrator prototype from same Tula Design Bureau, named TKb-408 Korobov, named after its legendary designer German Korobov, this and other similar looking but internally different bullpup assault rifles from Korobov actually competed against Mikhail Kalashnikov's AK-47 during those adaption trials, but eventually Kalashnikov's AK-47 won owning to its simplicity and all otherwise who knows we may have seen soviets and Viet Congs and all BTFOing various capitarist swines wielding a ;space age; tier Korobov bullpup rifles

all these rifles TKb-408, TKb-517, TKb-022PM,TKb-059 three barreled bullpup rifle were bullpups and designed by Korobov, all in 7.62x39mm

there was another TKb-011 bullpup in 7.62x39mm designed by Nikolai Afanasyev

in fact Korobov had also made a conventinal, delayed blowback action rifle named TKB-517 which superficially resembled Kalashnikov design minus bulky gas tube part; was also trialed against later production AK-47 but eventually Mikhail Kalashnikov's one prevailed and in some years we got AKM

later in 70s, TKb-0146 was developed by Igor Stechkin (of that Stechkin APS pistol fame) which was also a bullpup rifle but in 5.45x39mm

TL;DR:
these aren't ugly, they are just sovietly blyatiful rifles

 

[kaboom]

MARCOS do use APS underwater assault rifle , Have you ever seen them in action/Indian Navy exhibition ??

 

[Marliii]

 

[tomthounaojam]

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as for that cheek piece it seems just a clamp-on style piece of polymer, something FAMAS also has got by design

so yeah, quite good development for them;
and as always quite a shameful for us that despite both INSAS and QBZ-95 starting their official service in armed forces of both respective countries we never did this much upgrades attempt on our guns except very very recent things where FAB Defense guys had to offer an upgrade kit and yet that was not accepted here while they...khair chhodo

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I share the same sentiment with you, However, there is a BIG difference btw us and them. Our, Army if we want we can buy just about one of the best guns in the world, buying and production is another story. So, with exposure at such a level, the Army must be always in a conundrum btw the best and desi one. But that being said, INSAS can do a mid-life upgrade and give it to the State and CAPF.

 

[Blood+]

And they say 5.56 can't kill.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

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kindly delete this

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Here's a better looking SVU-A/OTs-3 with a PSO-1 and compensator-silencer combo.

 

[ManhattanProject]

what is problem, it was just a tech demonstrator plus prototype named SC-129 (some say it was named STs-129), though receiver clearly has "TKB-0145" written on it which was originally an experimental 6x49mm sniper rifle project forked from bullpup version of SVD, i already covered it up here in previous post here

not much info is available about this SC-129, i think they reused TKB-0145 receiver on making this prototype here; and this time making it in another experimental (now in use) cartridge 12.7x55mm
This SC-129 most likely got developed further into post-soviet Russia as ShAK-12 bullpup .50 cal "assault rifle"





Again, tech demonstrator prototype from same Tula Design Bureau, named TKb-408 Korobov, named after its legendary designer German Korobov, this and other similar looking but internally different bullpup assault rifles from Korobov actually competed against Mikhail Kalashnikov's AK-47 during those adaption trials, but eventually Kalashnikov's AK-47 won owning to its simplicity and all otherwise who knows we may have seen soviets and Viet Congs and all BTFOing various capitarist swines wielding a ;space age; tier Korobov bullpup rifles

all these rifles TKb-408, TKb-517, TKb-022PM,TKb-059 three barreled bullpup rifle were bullpups and designed by Korobov, all in 7.62x39mm

there was another TKb-011 bullpup in 7.62x39mm designed by Nikolai Afanasyev

in fact Korobov had also made a conventinal, delayed blowback action rifle named TKB-517 which superficially resembled Kalashnikov design minus bulky gas tube part; was also trialed against later production AK-47 but eventually Mikhail Kalashnikov's one prevailed and in some years we got AKM

later in 70s, TKb-0146 was developed by Igor Stechkin (of that Stechkin APS pistol fame) which was also a bullpup rifle but in 5.45x39mm

TL;DR:
these aren't ugly, they are just sovietly blyatiful rifles

I am coming.

 

[ManhattanProject]

And they say 5.56 can't kill.

our army runs on rumours and heresay, just how insas sprayed hot oil into your eyes.

 

[Blood+]

our army runs on rumours and heresay, just how insas sprayed hot oil into your eyes.

Yeah, every time I listen to some of these retired gernail spew such nonsense, I don't know, it just feels like I die a little each time.

 

[kaboom]

Why?
It looks so goofy

 

[Tactical Doge]

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Why?
It looks so goofy

M203 MLOK mai nhi lagta kya?

 

[ManhattanProject]

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Why?
It looks so goofy

wtf is this abomination? its either going to break the mount or the handguard. Why do they even have to attach it to the rifle? just carry a single shot launcher with you, its not that hard.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

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Why?
It looks so goofy

This is the result of the "we're absolutely not throwing away all this incompatible cumbersome hardware we called tenders for, make it work however possible" mindset. Wake up and smell the 21st century.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Alpha ke muh me ghee shakar

 

[kaboom]

This is the result of the "we're absolutely not throwing away all this incompatible cumbersome hardware we called tenders for, make it work however possible" mindset. Wake up and smell the 21st century.
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converting the drdo ubgl to something like this won't be hard

 

[Corvus Splendens]

converting the drdo ubgl to something like this won't be hard

Already developed, ARDE just has to rip off this design too. They ripped off the UBGL, shouldn't be hard.

 

[Mangal]

Alpha ke muh me ghee shakar

Fingers crossed

 

[WolfPack86]

Delhi police SWAT undertaking trails for all IWI and Punj Loyd weapons!!
Notice IWI Masada, it will be the first Israeli sidearm on Indian soil.

 

[WolfPack86]

Delhi police swat team with plr systems weapons