Small arms and Light Weapons

When picking a gun, what would your primary consideration be?


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Lonewarrior

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Sir ji ye kaisa mortar bomb hai ?
India ke paas Aisa kiuch hai kya View attachment 217790
Nothing serious...just a factory standard version of what people had been improvising in fields.

Lemme explain you.
In mortars (or in almost every thing that goes boom-boom) there are multiple safeties that must be deactivated in specific sequence, only after which it can go boom-boom. Three of the most common are; timed, inertial (also called setback) and centrifugal. Timed; after firing a fuze get lit by the propellant and after few seconds it's armed. Centrifugal; whenever something is fired from a rifled bore it rotates on its axis at an extremely high RPM and once it crosses a certain threshold it's armed. And lastly it's inertial; the projectile is sitting at rest and in the next hundredth of a second it's at supersonic speed, this causes thousands of g worth of acceleration and fuzes sense this to arm them.

Timed ones are not that reliable and as only a small number of mortars are rifled...most mortars fuzes are inertial. But when you drop that same round from a drone it achieves that boring 1g of acceleration not the required 1000g. So guys modify them by removing that safety or replacing that fuze altogether with something more risky before dropping. You can see pics of Ukrainian drone dropped grenades having some weird contraption attached to the nose.

So this is basically that only; a standard mortar round with modified fuze. You can even see it's written "special fuze" in the first line itself.

As for India having something similar...well we're bit more organised to have such improvisation type munitions. We're working on dedicated options
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wtf is this, is that a real m9?
 

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wtf is this, is that a real m9?
yep ,
Pakistani elites can buy nearly everything they want both legally and illegally ......
It's the only thing I envy from them
 

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The point is the turks makes world class weapons and we are still struggling with making Aks
𝐕𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐢𝐬 𝐚 𝐝𝐚𝐲𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐦.
𝐀𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐢𝐬 𝐚 𝐧𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐞

They've a crystal clear vision of what they want to do; beating Western countries by providing similar value at a way cheaper price and beating Russia/China by proving way more value in a slightly high price. Every single weapon platform they copy/base/invent revolves around this idea.

What's our vision?
 

ALBY

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There are guns in this pic too!?

Anyways, yup, you're right. It seems some kind of armoury level modification of M16s with stocks from M4
Canadians also run something similar in their C7s
Yeah..heard about C7 modifications but first time i am seeing OG M16A4s with collapsible stocks in US mil.
 

MisraZ

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The point is the turks makes world class weapons and we are still struggling with making Aks
Well Turks have access to HK tooling. Alby bhai, I remember you talking about poor quality stock of trichy assault rifle, how is it different compared to Arsenal AKs? Locking mech looks same TBH.
Also wanted to ask about folding stock of INSAS if you've used those.
 

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Assault Rifle
7.62 x 39 mm



Main Features
  • Self-illuminated target tritium sights for faster target acquisition at low right conditions
  • Provision for attachment of Underbarrel Grenade launchers and firing with them
  • Front sight adjusting kit
  • Black polymer 40 cartridges
  • Set for magazine coupling
  • Front hand grip
  • Silencer

General Specifications
Specifications
AR M5F41

Calibre, mm7.62
Cartridge,mm7.62 x 39
Fire modeSingle and automatic
Rate of fire, rounds/min600
Practical rate, rounds/min automatic fireUp to 100
single fireUp to 40
Muzzle velocity m/s 710
- bullet type M193
bullet type SS109
Sighting range, m800
Maximum firing range, m1,350
Effective firing range, m400
Magazine capacity, rounds30
Barrel length, mm415
Sight radius, mm370
Overall length, mm930
Overall length with folded butt, mm720
Weight without magazine, kg4.0
Weight of loaded magazine0.72
System life, rounds15,000
Principle of functiongas-operated
 

ALBY

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Assault Rifle
7.62 x 39 mm



Main Features
  • Self-illuminated target tritium sights for faster target acquisition at low right conditions
  • Provision for attachment of Underbarrel Grenade launchers and firing with them
  • Front sight adjusting kit
  • Black polymer 40 cartridges
  • Set for magazine coupling
  • Front hand grip
  • Silencer

General Specifications
Specifications
AR M5F41

Calibre, mm7.62
Cartridge,mm7.62 x 39
Fire modeSingle and automatic
Rate of fire, rounds/min600
Practical rate, rounds/min automatic fireUp to 100
single fireUp to 40
Muzzle velocity m/s 710
- bullet type M193
bullet type SS109
Sighting range, m800
Maximum firing range, m1,350
Effective firing range, m400
Magazine capacity, rounds30
Barrel length, mm415
Sight radius, mm370
Overall length, mm930
Overall length with folded butt, mm720
Weight without magazine, kg4.0
Weight of loaded magazine0.72
System life, rounds15,000
Principle of functiongas-operated
Ideal for CAPFs and RR if provided with Vertical hand grips a good optics.Also the PK model MGs are better than Mag58 or Brens and cost effective than Negevs for Capfs .
 

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