Small arms and Light Weapons

[Johny_Baba]

@Indx TechStyle @ezsasa pls mods clean up this thread a bit, all these useless animu banters and what not, move it to chit chat thread pls

also put @Love Charger on mute for some time

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

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Seriously. Something tells me that the operator is in support weapon squad or a SAW gunner . No one is stupid enough to use that for CQC or door kicking

 

[Johny_Baba]

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Indian Special Forces (archived)

Garuds are buying 60 Round Drum Magazines for Tavors..

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Indian Special Forces (archived)

Garuds are buying 60 Round Drum Magazines for Tavors..

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Indian Special Forces (archived)

Garuds are buying 60 Round Drum Magazines for Tavors..

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Indian Special Forces (archived)

Is it just me or drum magazine with Bullpup seems kinda odd since you have to reach for the trigger croosing over the magazine. Vs Second one seems way more comfortable. Well it is untraditional,of course,but still workable if you can adjust to it, As you can clearly see it...

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[ALBY]

 

[ALBY]

Indian Special Forces (archived)

Garuds are buying 60 Round Drum Magazines for Tavors..

defenceforumindia.com

Indian Special Forces (archived)

Garuds are buying 60 Round Drum Magazines for Tavors..

defenceforumindia.com

Indian Special Forces (archived)

Garuds are buying 60 Round Drum Magazines for Tavors..

defenceforumindia.com

Indian Special Forces (archived)

Is it just me or drum magazine with Bullpup seems kinda odd since you have to reach for the trigger croosing over the magazine. Vs Second one seems way more comfortable. Well it is untraditional,of course,but still workable if you can adjust to it, As you can clearly see it...

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These were drums right not 60 rounders in use with Indonesians.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

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[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[Lonewarrior]

...and then there are people who do ganika krandan about the recoil of 716i

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

...and then there are people who do ganika krandan about the recoil of 716i

Problem is they are using it for ci/ct role rather than as a dmr

 

[ManhattanProject]

Something tells me that its a bad idea to put a long ass magazine

They are notorious for being unreliable.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Problem is they are using it for ci/ct role rather than as a dmr

No

 

[Lonewarrior]

They are notorious for being unreliable.

+1
Another issue is when under recoil, particular full auto fire it exert unnecessary force on the mag catch and locking tab.

But perhaps even bigger issue with long magazines are that you can't shoot with them from a cover; especially from a prone position. This is why when back in days they needed high capacity magazine for LMGs they mounted it on top.

 

[MisraZ]

Talking of big mags

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Talking of big mags

man here saw a Chauchat once and thought hmmmm

 

[MisraZ]

 

[ALBY]

They are notorious for being unreliable.

The russian ones have bad reputation but the post says the above said ones are comparatively good ones

 

[Johny_Baba]

Polish "Lantan" modular rifle, chambered in 7x41mm 'Marszyt' round, It was the result of The Polish Military Technical Academy project to introduce an intermediate cartridge that was better than 7.62x39mm.As mentioned 'modular' said rifle was also supposed to come with ;one receiver, multiple length barrels; configuration to turn it into service rifle, carbine, LMG etc out of single weapon by change of barrel and so.

likewise many other projects this too got shelved once Warsaw Pact supremo the USSR decided against it and thrusted their Kalashnikov upon the Poles instead

though they still kept innovating on basic Kalashnikov design and introduced an AK named Wz.80 which came with fire selector and 3-round burst mode along with usual semi-auto and full-auto on AK

of course it wasn't adopted as the Warsaw Pact had already moved on to 5.45x39mm by then, and they decided to make their own 5.45mm AK instead of adopting vanilla ruskie AK-74, for that project they based their AK on this Wz.80 and end result was, of course, Wz.88 Tantal

on side they seemed to have experimented with bringing old Lanten to life by making a 5.45x39mm version as evident from this pic,

but eventually they went ahead with AK only

as for 7x41mm itself,

5.45x39mm, 7.62x39mm, 7x41mm 'Marszyt'

250 grains (16.2 grams) total weight, ~118 grains (7.68 grams) bullet weight
Case length 41.41mm
Bullet diameter 7.21mm
Head diameter 11.30mm
The bullet had a trajectory peaking only 240 mm high at 300 m, leaving muzzle at 770 mps (2530 fps) – which given a 7.68 g (118 gr) mild steel-cored ball weight would give the muzzle energy in the 2200 Joule region

 

[Ujjain]

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Rolex family.

 

[Flying Dagger]

...and then there are people who do ganika krandan about the recoil of 716i

This guy is a noob... We had professionals.

Even then the questions were raised about, how they were holding rifle and handling the recoil.

 

[Flying Dagger]

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Polish "Lantan" modular rifle, chambered in 7x41mm 'Marszyt' round, It was the result of The Polish Military Technical Academy project to introduce an intermediate cartridge that was better than 7.62x39mm.As mentioned 'modular' said rifle was also supposed to come with ;one receiver, multiple length barrels; configuration to turn it into service rifle, carbine, LMG etc out of single weapon by change of barrel and so.

likewise many other projects this too got shelved once Warsaw Pact supremo the USSR decided against it and thrusted their Kalashnikov upon the Poles instead

though they still kept innovating on basic Kalashnikov design and introduced an AK named Wz.80 which came with fire selector and 3-round burst mode along with usual semi-auto and full-auto on AK
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of course it wasn't adopted as the Warsaw Pact had already moved on to 5.45x39mm by then, and they decided to make their own 5.45mm AK instead of adopting vanilla ruskie AK-74, for that project they based their AK on this Wz.80 and end result was, of course, Wz.88 Tantal

on side they seemed to have experimented with bringing old Lanten to life by making a 5.45x39mm version as evident from this pic,
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but eventually they went ahead with AK only

as for 7x41mm itself,
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5.45x39mm, 7.62x39mm, 7x41mm 'Marszyt'

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250 grains (16.2 grams) total weight, ~118 grains (7.68 grams) bullet weight
Case length 41.41mm
Bullet diameter 7.21mm
Head diameter 11.30mm
The bullet had a trajectory peaking only 240 mm high at 300 m, leaving muzzle at 770 mps (2530 fps) – which given a 7.68 g (118 gr) mild steel-cored ball weight would give the muzzle energy in the 2200 Joule region

Same with Czech they built VZ for 7.62*45 round but dropped it due to Warsaw pact. The idea was to have common small arms for ease in production and deployment by all members. VZ 58 with AK round was chosen eventually by Czech not AK.

Your opinion on Vz58 modified / Bren series vs current AK 203/15 derivatives ?