Small arms and Light Weapons

[LaIllahaSigmar]

What your username means ?

.it was supposed to be la-ilah-ila-Sigmar.

Meaning:
No God but Sigmar.
A play on la ilaha ilallaha

But i wrote it wrong in a hurry.

 

[pipebomb]

IA generally use 7.62x39 in close quaters like CI ops. What is the merit of setting up a factory for a weapon which has limited use(unlike carbine which can be used in both CI & personal defence) instead of importing it given in future CI ops will probably shift to paramilitary which mostly use indian origin ak clones(thank god for that)

My second question is how does 6.8 remington spc(in which drdo was interested) compares to 7.62x51, like pros and cons.

Also does IA failed to extract full benefit of 5.56 given its low recoil(ideal for auto) and light weight(allow High capacity mag i.e. more ammo). Insas lacked both, limited to 3 round bursts and 20 capacity mag

 

[Johny_Baba]

sigh Uttar Pradesh legislative assembly elections 2022 effect, i guess...

if this faketory becomes operational we could see Pradhaan Sevak (sic) and Mukhya Sevak of the state personally inaugurating it, lots of media PR with words like "AE KE SENTAALIS SE BHI KHATARNAAK AE KE DO SO TEEN RIFLE AB BHAARAT ME BANEGI, INSAS KI CHHUTTI" ('specially on Youtube) and maybe some serkari exams asking one-two questions on it (as they have started asking questions on elementary defese matters nowadays, Bharat me banane waali AK-203 raaifal ka utpaadan nimn likhit sthalo me se kis sthal pe hoga etc) and what not...
And yes, some MoD babus and Fauzi Gernails somewhere getting their fine share of vodka and svetlana-katarina...
...and essentially what our boys in armed forces would get to replace INSAS is...khair jaane do, ispe toh bahut bol diye hain ab tak...

 

[aryanc]

sigh Uttar Pradesh legislative assembly elections 2022 effect, i guess...

if this faketory becomes operational we could see Pradhaan Sevak (sic) and Mukhya Sevak of the state personally inaugurating it, lots of media PR with words like "AE KE SENTAALIS SE BHI KHATARNAAK AE KE DO SO TEEN RIFLE AB BHAARAT ME BANEGI, INSAS KI CHHUTTI" ('specially on Youtube) and maybe some serkari exams asking one-two questions on it (as they have started asking questions on elementary defese matters nowadays, Bharat me banane waali AK-203 raaifal ka utpaadan nimn likhit sthalo me se kis sthal pe hoga etc) and what not...
And yes, some MoD babus and Fauzi Gernails somewhere getting their fine share of vodka and svetlana-katarina...
...and essentially what our boys in armed forces would get to replace INSAS is...khair jaane do, ispe toh bahut bol diye hain ab tak...

Tbvh, AK203 may not be the best option but IA seems hell bent on AK platform rifles for general infantry. Good AR like Sig, LMT, HK(won't but still) may cost the same.
Just someone confirm, some media reports were telling we aren't paying any royalty instead of the previous deal, so does that mean some other inhouse development in JV considering deal pricing remains the same(yeah some pie will be eaten by babus and generals but still). Considering we purchased Rafale with all it's features and scrutinized by oppn, won't it be the same case here

 

[MisraZ]

What is Alpha defense implying? Carbine deal finalized?

 

[FalconSlayers]

What is Alpha defense implying? Carbine deal finalized?

Wait, that’s a Magpul CTR and a 7.5” upper, and a lower from PSA?
@Gessler @Johny_Baba

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Wait, that’s a Magpul CTR and a 7.5” upper, and a lower from PSA?
@Gessler @Johny_Baba

Don’t think you should read too much into it, probably just for representation

 

[another_armchair]

M134 Minigun - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

When did we get the Mini and who operates it? The listing is without a citation so..

 

[MisraZ]

M134 Minigun - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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When did we get the Mini and who operates it? The listing is without a citation so..

Probably procured for these birds. RoF seems like a gatling only.

 

[another_armchair]

Probably procured for these birds. RoF seems like a gatling only.

Thanks.

Cyclic rate of fire not less than 3000 rounds per minute says it all.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

AK 203 aa gaya kya? AAjke morning ke plane mein first consignment aane wala tha?

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

AK 203 aa gaya kya? AAjke morning ke plane mein first consignment aane wala tha?

Lol ,defence decoDe news hahaah

 

[Tactical Doge]

Wait, that’s a Magpul CTR and a 7.5” upper, and a lower from PSA?
@Gessler @Johny_Baba

Don’t think you should read too much into it, probably just for representation

>SSS was working on an AR platform
>Their rifles had rip off parts from various western sources
>Even their p72 was a magpull stock iirc (?)
>This one has a CTR stock
>Defence decode didn't specify if it was related to carbine tender
>This has SSS written all over it, SSS bhaimya SSS

 

[Marliii]

 

[Marliii]

Ak203 also can get some of these upgrades it seems

 

[Tactical Doge]

The handguard looks sweet, it extends upwards of the dust cover, so instead of mounting on the dust cover, you're basically mounting the sights on the handguard, Jee-nee-yus, I have read that AK sights mounted on Dust cover looses zero quickly
Except for that, I see nothing FAB doesn't offer
(((Also what is an expandable magazine??)

 

[Marliii]

The handguard looks sweet, it extends upwards of the dust cover, so instead of mounting on the dust cover, you're basically mounting the sights on the handguard, Jee-nee-yus, I have read that AK sights mounted on Dust cover looses zero quickly
Except for that, I see nothing FAB doesn't offer
(((Also what is an expandable magazine??)

I think they might have been going for expendable but got into expandable as a mistake

 

[FalconSlayers]

Buttstock is ugly, would love Bulgarian AK-47 stocks.

 

[FalconSlayers]

The handguard looks sweet, it extends upwards of the dust cover, so instead of mounting on the dust cover, you're basically mounting the sights on the handguard, Jee-nee-yus, I have read that AK sights mounted on Dust cover looses zero quickly
Except for that, I see nothing FAB doesn't offer
(((Also what is an expandable magazine??)

Fab kits are imported, in this case it will be manufactured in India in a JV.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Just buy , type 56 with foldable bayonets .
You always need a bayonet anyway