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I am not very sure we can place this hell raiser in assault rifle (pistol !!)category but still I feel like posting some pictures here. Please click on images to enlarge.

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Corner Shot Launcher
Developer – Corner Shot (Israel), Dynamit Nobel Defence (Germany)
Caliber – 60mm
Features – A collapsible firing-post, which is fitted with a camera and video screen, attaches to a disposable, one-shot 60 mm grenade launcher. Rounds can be fired at a 90 degree angle—other Corner Shot devices fire at up to 60 degrees

--Based on the outstanding features and capabilities of the original (handgun) Corner Shot system, the new weapon offers the extended range, increased firepower and enhanced lethality of an assault rifle in a 5.56 mm calibre is a high-tech weapon support system designed to enable military, law enforcement and security operators to effectively observe and engage targets from around the corner or from behind a cover without exposing any part of the operator & apos;s body.
--The inventors of the Corner Shot system now offer the same concept in its APR -- Assault Pistol Rifle version: The "CS-APR 5.56."
--Corner Shot -- patented worldwide -- was tested and is currently employed by special forces military units and law enforcement agencies worldwide.
Corner Shot, a weapon system that provides the ability to observe, acquire and engage targets from "around the corner," is now available in a 5.56 mm Assault Pistol Rifle version. Unveiled today at the SHOT Show in Las Vegas, the Corner Shot Assault Pistol Rifle weapon system enables security forces to remain outside the line of fire while engaging targets. The APR version of the Corner Shot system combines the design principles, features and capabilities of the "handgun" version with a small 5.56 mm assault rifle, thereby providing a versatile range of weapon systems that can incorporate the "weapon of choice" for any law enforcement or regular infantry organization, be it a handgun or Assault Pistol Rifle. The system was invented by Amos Golan and developed together with Asaf Nadel, both former senior combat and special units officers.
The CS-APR 5.56 system includes a small, high-resolution video camera and monitor, through which the operator can view targets located around the corner in real time. The video camera enables the operator to scan the space "around the corner" or "in the next room" prior to pinpointing and engaging the targets. Alternatively, the video image can be transmitted to other elements or to a rear area command post.
The CS-APR 5.56 is capable of accurately engaging targets at ranges of up to 250 meters. It fires all 5.56 mm ammunition types, including special, non-lethal ammunition, using standard M16 / M4 magazines or specialized, shortened magazines.
The CS-APR 5.56 also fires specialized anti-personnel and antitank extending warhead rifle grenades. This unique weapon system was especially adapted to fire door breaching rifle grenade, a grenade capable of effectively breaching doors of various types. This particular capability enables military or law enforcement operators to break down a door from a distance, even under direct enemy fire, thereby enabling the break-in assault team to reach the open doorway quickly, enter the building and accomplish their mission.
The CS-APR 5.56 provides military and law enforcement units with a weapon system possessing all of the advantages of the Corner Shot system, along with the enhanced power and range of 5.56 mm ammunition. If necessary -- the APR 5.56 may be detached from the Corner Shot frame and used as an Assault Pistol Rifle, through a quick connection to a purpose-designed stock.
About Corner Shot Holdings LLC
Corner Shot develops and manufactures weapon systems for observing and engaging targets from around the corner. Corner Shot Holdings LLC was founded by Amos Golan and Asaf Nadel, both former senior officers of elite units of the Israel Defense Forces with US investors. The Company is headquartered in Miami, Florida, with R&D facilities in Israel and with a worldwide network of direct sales and support agents. For further details: CornerShot Site.
Corner Shot(R) Unveils the New Corner Shot ''Assault Pistol Rifle(TM)'' 5.56 mm (CS-APR(TM) 5.56) for Observing and Engaging Targets from around the Corner. | Government > Government Bodies & Offices from AllBusiness.com
 

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Anyone has any idea about the assault rifle developing by DRDO for F-INSAS project.,.,.,.
Or we are going to use the same insas rifle..............
 

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I am not very sure we can place this hell raiser in assault rifle (pistol !!)category but still I feel like posting some pictures here. Please click on images to enlarge.

View attachment 886



Corner Shot Launcher
Developer – Corner Shot (Israel), Dynamit Nobel Defence (Germany)
Caliber – 60mm
Features – A collapsible firing-post, which is fitted with a camera and video screen, attaches to a disposable, one-shot 60 mm grenade launcher. Rounds can be fired at a 90 degree angle—other Corner Shot devices fire at up to 60 degrees

--Based on the outstanding features and capabilities of the original (handgun) Corner Shot system, the new weapon offers the extended range, increased firepower and enhanced lethality of an assault rifle in a 5.56 mm calibre is a high-tech weapon support system designed to enable military, law enforcement and security operators to effectively observe and engage targets from around the corner or from behind a cover without exposing any part of the operator & apos;s body.
--The inventors of the Corner Shot system now offer the same concept in its APR -- Assault Pistol Rifle version: The "CS-APR 5.56."
--Corner Shot -- patented worldwide -- was tested and is currently employed by special forces military units and law enforcement agencies worldwide.
Corner Shot, a weapon system that provides the ability to observe, acquire and engage targets from "around the corner," is now available in a 5.56 mm Assault Pistol Rifle version. Unveiled today at the SHOT Show in Las Vegas, the Corner Shot Assault Pistol Rifle weapon system enables security forces to remain outside the line of fire while engaging targets. The APR version of the Corner Shot system combines the design principles, features and capabilities of the "handgun" version with a small 5.56 mm assault rifle, thereby providing a versatile range of weapon systems that can incorporate the "weapon of choice" for any law enforcement or regular infantry organization, be it a handgun or Assault Pistol Rifle. The system was invented by Amos Golan and developed together with Asaf Nadel, both former senior combat and special units officers.
The CS-APR 5.56 system includes a small, high-resolution video camera and monitor, through which the operator can view targets located around the corner in real time. The video camera enables the operator to scan the space "around the corner" or "in the next room" prior to pinpointing and engaging the targets. Alternatively, the video image can be transmitted to other elements or to a rear area command post.
The CS-APR 5.56 is capable of accurately engaging targets at ranges of up to 250 meters. It fires all 5.56 mm ammunition types, including special, non-lethal ammunition, using standard M16 / M4 magazines or specialized, shortened magazines.
The CS-APR 5.56 also fires specialized anti-personnel and antitank extending warhead rifle grenades. This unique weapon system was especially adapted to fire door breaching rifle grenade, a grenade capable of effectively breaching doors of various types. This particular capability enables military or law enforcement operators to break down a door from a distance, even under direct enemy fire, thereby enabling the break-in assault team to reach the open doorway quickly, enter the building and accomplish their mission.
The CS-APR 5.56 provides military and law enforcement units with a weapon system possessing all of the advantages of the Corner Shot system, along with the enhanced power and range of 5.56 mm ammunition. If necessary -- the APR 5.56 may be detached from the Corner Shot frame and used as an Assault Pistol Rifle, through a quick connection to a purpose-designed stock.
About Corner Shot Holdings LLC
Corner Shot develops and manufactures weapon systems for observing and engaging targets from around the corner. Corner Shot Holdings LLC was founded by Amos Golan and Asaf Nadel, both former senior officers of elite units of the Israel Defense Forces with US investors. The Company is headquartered in Miami, Florida, with R&D facilities in Israel and with a worldwide network of direct sales and support agents. For further details: CornerShot Site.
Corner Shot(R) Unveils the New Corner Shot ''Assault Pistol Rifle(TM)'' 5.56 mm (CS-APR(TM) 5.56) for Observing and Engaging Targets from around the Corner. | Government > Government Bodies & Offices from AllBusiness.com
India should procure a small number of these guns as they will be very useful in Urban warfare.For ex- Taj situation & in J&K where our soldiers are exposed to close combat.
 

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Anyone has any idea about the assault rifle developing by DRDO for F-INSAS project.,.,.,.
Or we are going to use the same insas rifle..............
well a glimpse of it was shown in a video in DefExpo...seems like a new caliber weapon.
 
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Well best Assault rifles are:

Barrett 468, dual caliber 5.56/6.8 mm

YouTube - Future Weapons: The Barrett M468 Assault Rifle

LWRC M-6 rifles, dual caliber 5.56/6.8mm

LWRC International

Magpul Masada, dual caliber 5.56/7.26 mm

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/magpul-masada-cutaway-diagram.jpg

M-4 Alexander arms .50 cal Beowulf, the deadliest rifle ever made, this conversion kit can be acquired for our BSF, Defense security corp soldiers, CISF and securing key installations. We have M-4s in our inventory.

YouTube - 50 Beowulf - Future Weapons
 

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India should procure a small number of these guns as they will be very useful in Urban warfare.For ex- Taj situation & in J&K where our soldiers are exposed to close combat.
well some reports says that NSG already got few of those, before mumbai attack, however those were not used in mumbai.
 
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well a glimpse of it was shown in a video in DefExpo...seems like a new caliber weapon.
The new INSAS rifle is a multicaliber rifle with 5.56/6.8/7.26 mm capable with UBGL and will be ready for trials soon.
 

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The new INSAS rifle is a multicaliber rifle with 5.56/6.8/7.26 mm capable with UBGL and will be ready for trials soon.
Its good that India is exploring the option of using the 6.8 SPC round. This caliber has generated interest in the US and among other NATO forces, due to the combination of greater penetration than the current 5.56 round (used in INSAS) and lighter weight copmpared to the 7.62 (used in AK-47 variants)

It may be well suited for adoption in the INSAS series, since the cartridge dimensions are comparable

This is the image from Wiki

6.8 mm Remington SPC (Left) as compared to the 5.56x45mm NATO cartridge (Right)

I will try to see if there is a ballistics comparison available
 

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New Army Rifle Fires Laser-Guided Smart Bullets With Onboard Targeting Chips

Smart Rifle: You won't see the rifle or the bullet until it's too late

It would be hard to describe a bullet as smart, but what if that bullet was laser-guided, radio-controlled, and carried an onboard targeting CPU? The US Army has announced the creation of the XM25 rifle, which can fire a new type of explosive round that fit that exact description. Imagine the implications: hitting targets inside buildings or hiding around walls. Whoa.

First, the scope on the rifle has a laser that gauges the distance to the target. The soldier can set exactly where the 25-millimeter bullet will detonate by adding or subtracting 3 meters from that point. Then, the scope will send a radio signal to a chip inside the bullet telling it how far it should travel before exploding.

Now, here’s where things get truly nuts: Each bullet has a small magnetic transducer that interacts with the Earth’s magnetic field, generating a tiny alternating current every time it spins as it speeds toward the target. Measured against the gun's specially calibrated rifling, this means the bullet can keep track of how far it has traveled in real time. Whoa, again.

The Army has proposed the uses can range from hitting enemies hidden in trenches (as pictured above), or even hitting a sniper hiding in a building by setting the range about a meter beyond the window. They are also proposed as a smarter alternative to grenade launchers, which can serve the same purpose but be less accurate and have limited range, making them more prone to collateral damage.

The Army will begin field tests with the XM25 system soon, with hopes of deploying it into regular duty by 2012.

New Army Rifle Fires Laser-Guided Smart Bullets With Onboard Targeting Chips | Popular Science
 
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Its good that India is exploring the option of using the 6.8 SPC round. This caliber has generated interest in the US and among other NATO forces, due to the combination of greater penetration than the current 5.56 round (used in INSAS) and lighter weight copmpared to the 7.62 (used in AK-47 variants)

It may be well suited for adoption in the INSAS series, since the cartridge dimensions are comparable

This is the image from Wiki

6.8 mm Remington SPC (Left) as compared to the 5.56x45mm NATO cartridge (Right)

I will try to see if there is a ballistics comparison available
6.8 mm is gr8 for infantry, i think all our infantry must carry 6.8/7.26mm rounds, the 5.56 is good for paramilitary forces except for CISF and BSF.
 

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6.8 mm is gr8 for infantry, i think all our infantry must carry 6.8/7.26mm rounds, the 5.56 is good for paramilitary forces except for CISF and BSF.
I would disagree a bit here.

One of the biggest advantages of the 5.56 round is light weight, and hence less lodout for the trooper. The paramilitary jawan does not have a heavy load out problem that the army jawan does, as most of their ops would be close to some base.

There is supposedly another advantage - injuring (instead of killing) an enemy may take out of commission not only him but his co-combatants who would need to support him. I don't know how relevant that is for paramilitary operations

If a 6.8 round is adopted, I cannot think of a reason for keeping the 5.56 for the paramilitary, unloess it is a cost factor
 

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City institute ready with new gun for Army

Oinam Anand , Ranjani Raghavan Tags : defence, guns Posted: Friday , Aug 21, 2009 at 0511 hrs

City-based Armaments Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) is giving the final touches to a modern sub-machine carbine (MSMC) for the Indian Army. The final trials for this 5.56 mm calibre MSMC will be conducted in December this year.

A carbine is a lightweight compact automatic gun with a small barrel; unlike a rifle it fires rapidly and is suitable for close quarter combats.

At present, the Indian Army, paramilitary forces, commandos and the police use a Russian origin 9 mm calibre carbine, which is fairly ancient.

“We are in the process of proving 99.7 per cent reliability for the MSMC. The user will be able to fire up to 200 metres using the MSMC,” said ARDE director Anil M Datar.

The MSMC programme has its origins in the Indian Small Arms System family, which was started in 1982 in a bid to build an indigenous small arms weapons system for India. By 1987, the ARDE had designed the Rifle, the Light Machine Gun (LMG) and the carbine — all part of the INSAS family.

The Army had inducted the INSAS rifle and LMG in 1993; DRDO scientists say it met with a fair amount of success but there were some defects as well, which came to light after the Kargil war.

“The rifle and the LMG was first put to test during Kargil. After that, based on the battlefield experiences, we developed a new version — the INSAS 1B1” said R S Rao, joint director, INSAS, ARDE.

But it was the INSAS carbine that fell through, right from the start. “For the carbine, the ammunition was very powerful. It had higher sound, flash, and recoil effect,” said S V Gade, joint director, INSAS, ARDE. “With the MSMC, we have now changed the length of the ammunition. It is still a 5.6 mm calibre bullet, but it is slightly shorter in length, thereby eliminating the drawbacks of the earlier carbine.”

Finally, the INSAS carbine plan was shelved and in 2002, the Army devised a new set of General Staff Qualitative Requirements (GSQR) for the new MSMC, he said.

“Since 2006, when the first prototype was devised, the MSMC has been put through every possible scenario that the Army could conceive of.”

The first trial of the prototype was held in 2006, then 2007-end and the last one was in January 2009
 

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Oinam Anand , Ranjani Raghavan Tags : defence, guns Posted: Friday , Aug 21, 2009 at 0511 hrs

City-based Armaments Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) is giving the final touches to a modern sub-machine carbine (MSMC) for the Indian Army. The final trials for this 5.56 mm calibre MSMC will be conducted in December this year.

A carbine is a lightweight compact automatic gun with a small barrel; unlike a rifle it fires rapidly and is suitable for close quarter combats.

At present, the Indian Army, paramilitary forces, commandos and the police use a Russian origin 9 mm calibre carbine, which is fairly ancient.

“We are in the process of proving 99.7 per cent reliability for the MSMC. The user will be able to fire up to 200 metres using the MSMC,” said ARDE director Anil M Datar.

The MSMC programme has its origins in the Indian Small Arms System family, which was started in 1982 in a bid to build an indigenous small arms weapons system for India. By 1987, the ARDE had designed the Rifle, the Light Machine Gun (LMG) and the carbine — all part of the INSAS family.

The Army had inducted the INSAS rifle and LMG in 1993; DRDO scientists say it met with a fair amount of success but there were some defects as well, which came to light after the Kargil war.

“The rifle and the LMG was first put to test during Kargil. After that, based on the battlefield experiences, we developed a new version — the INSAS 1B1” said R S Rao, joint director, INSAS, ARDE.

But it was the INSAS carbine that fell through, right from the start. “For the carbine, the ammunition was very powerful. It had higher sound, flash, and recoil effect,” said S V Gade, joint director, INSAS, ARDE. “With the MSMC, we have now changed the length of the ammunition. It is still a 5.6 mm calibre bullet, but it is slightly shorter in length, thereby eliminating the drawbacks of the earlier carbine.”

Finally, the INSAS carbine plan was shelved and in 2002, the Army devised a new set of General Staff Qualitative Requirements (GSQR) for the new MSMC, he said.

“Since 2006, when the first prototype was devised, the MSMC has been put through every possible scenario that the Army could conceive of.”

The first trial of the prototype was held in 2006, then 2007-end and the last one was in January 2009
This is the gun needed to fight the terrorists in hilly regions......damm good looking as well
 

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Does anyone else think that it looks a bit like the Tavor?
no it does not looke like tavor.

@venom this one is light weight made for the purpose of counter terror operations. I have the pleasure of checking it out at Defencexpo 09.

but they did not allowed me to take picture with MSMC.
 

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