Small arms and Light Weapons

[ALBY]

As the Bulgarian Aks are comparatively new and are also of high quality plus cheaper variants with rails are available CAPFs wont be putting new order for much costlier Ak203s any soon unless they want to replace Insas overnight

 

[Bhadra]

well most of the CAPFs are structured , trained , equipped on the lines of infantry battalion

All CAPF are structured, trained and equipped considering a Company to be the basic brick which can provide what police calls a "column". The battalion has six companies and can take on additional "columns" under command. The support elements are missing but administration elements are to be provided under battalion HQ. Battalion HQ has hardly any operational of functional role.

CAPF is not trained and equipped as an "Infantry battalion" but as a reserve armed police force which is to be distributed down as per requirement. A force like CISF and CRPF have no logic to be structured or trained like Infantry.

Even border holding forces like BSF, SSB and ITBP are structured and trained to guard the border as a police force and perform policing duties during peacetime.

The basic task of Infantry in defensive operations is to hold ground against all forms of attacks including NBC attacks and in offensive operations to close in with enemy and destroy him with close quarter battle.
No CAPF is capable of fulfilling those roles.

So far as structuring goes all units / subunits of Infantry are structured and equipped down to a section on the basic need of "Fire and Move". CAPF is structured and trained to provide filling columns.

there duties are almost the same during war and peace time so logic dictates that they be equipped with ak 203

No CAPF brass agrees to that. I only wish it were so and the country could have a lot of Armed Forces as reserve and not like CRPF of 1962 which lost all posts during pre-assault probing operations of the Chinese aggression.

Even now after so much of modernisation no military commander can ever plan on some BSF or ITBP holding BOP in the face of enemy assault. It is counted as having gone ab initio. They can only function as a trip wire. They can only hold if mixed with Army platoon or company.

On the other side, Chinese and Pakistani paramilitary forces are structured , trained and equipped on the lines of Infantry and officered by military commanders.

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

CRPF Jawan
Arsenal M5F41

 

[WolfPack86]

Army to modify AK-47 to counter new terror tactics
Even as the process to re-equip soldiers with a new contemporary assault rifle drags on, the Army is moving to modify the AK-47 rifles in its inventory with new accessories to meet its emerging operational requirements.

A process has been initiated for acquiring “weapon speciality kits” that includes items like tactical flashlight, fiber reinforced pistol grip, swing swivel attachment, polymer rails, rubberised pistol fore front grip, cheek rest, pointing grip, extendable butt stock and side mount that can be attached to the rifle in the field as and when required.

“Due to change in scenario and change in tactics being adopted by terrorists, there is a need to modify the AK-47 with arrangements to mount night sight, holographic sight, flash light and laser beam for early engagement of targets and to increase operational efficiency of troops,” states a request for information (RFI) floated by the Amy this week.



While the indigenous INSAS rifle is the Army’s standard weapon, units deployed for counter-terrorism or other specialist tasks are equipped with different versions of the AK-47 for providing greater fire power that is needed for such operations. The Army wants to replace the INSAS which has not only become obsolete but is also prone to glitches.

The weapon speciality kit comprises parts which can replace the existing parts of Rifle AK-47, thereby enhancing the utility of the weapon and at the same time make the firer comfortable and increase the chances of align engagement, the RFI adds.

The items will not require any tool to fix on to the rifle and the exercise can be undertaken in field conditions during operations without the need to refer to a workshop or a skilled technician.

The Army’s desire to procure new assault rifles has been bogged down for years due to financial constraints and red tape, with some reports indicating that only the infantry and some other arms will get new rifles. In February, a deal was signed to procure 72,400 Swiss SIG-716 assault rifles. A deal with Russia is also in the works to procure 6,50,000 Kalashnikov AK-103/203 assault rifles.


Enhancing utility ::

A process has been initiated for acquiring ‘weapon speciality kits’ that includes items like tactical flashlight, fiber reinforced pistol grip, swing swivel attachment, polymer rails, rubberised pistol fore front grip, cheek rest, pointing grip, extendable butt stock and side mount that can be attached to the rifle in the field as and when required
http://www.defencenews.in/article/Army-to-modify-AK-47-to-counter-new-terror-tactics-585568

 

[ezsasa]

Army to modify AK-47 to counter new terror tactics
Even as the process to re-equip soldiers with a new contemporary assault rifle drags on, the Army is moving to modify the AK-47 rifles in its inventory with new accessories to meet its emerging operational requirements.

A process has been initiated for acquiring “weapon speciality kits” that includes items like tactical flashlight, fiber reinforced pistol grip, swing swivel attachment, polymer rails, rubberised pistol fore front grip, cheek rest, pointing grip, extendable butt stock and side mount that can be attached to the rifle in the field as and when required.

“Due to change in scenario and change in tactics being adopted by terrorists, there is a need to modify the AK-47 with arrangements to mount night sight, holographic sight, flash light and laser beam for early engagement of targets and to increase operational efficiency of troops,” states a request for information (RFI) floated by the Amy this week.



While the indigenous INSAS rifle is the Army’s standard weapon, units deployed for counter-terrorism or other specialist tasks are equipped with different versions of the AK-47 for providing greater fire power that is needed for such operations. The Army wants to replace the INSAS which has not only become obsolete but is also prone to glitches.

The weapon speciality kit comprises parts which can replace the existing parts of Rifle AK-47, thereby enhancing the utility of the weapon and at the same time make the firer comfortable and increase the chances of align engagement, the RFI adds.

The items will not require any tool to fix on to the rifle and the exercise can be undertaken in field conditions during operations without the need to refer to a workshop or a skilled technician.

The Army’s desire to procure new assault rifles has been bogged down for years due to financial constraints and red tape, with some reports indicating that only the infantry and some other arms will get new rifles. In February, a deal was signed to procure 72,400 Swiss SIG-716 assault rifles. A deal with Russia is also in the works to procure 6,50,000 Kalashnikov AK-103/203 assault rifles.


Enhancing utility ::

A process has been initiated for acquiring ‘weapon speciality kits’ that includes items like tactical flashlight, fiber reinforced pistol grip, swing swivel attachment, polymer rails, rubberised pistol fore front grip, cheek rest, pointing grip, extendable butt stock and side mount that can be attached to the rifle in the field as and when required
http://www.defencenews.in/article/Army-to-modify-AK-47-to-counter-new-terror-tactics-585568

i looked for this RFI, nothing as such been released yet... i wonder what is the source of this article....

 

[WolfPack86]

Indian Army Personal With Brand New Victrix Scorpio .338.

Location : Undisclosed Location at LoC.

 

[WolfPack86]

#IndianArmy New Beretta Victrix Scorpio TGT Sniper Rifle (.338 Lapua Magnum) Credits : Anung Walling

 

[WolfPack86]

Livefist’s @ShivAroor scopes out an AK-203 today at Kalashnikov’s HQ in Moscow — the weapon will soon be the Indian Army’s primary assault rifle, manufactured en mass at a JV facility in Amethi, UP. Our recent report:

 

[WolfPack86]

From Kalashnikov’s HQ in Moscow, @ShivAroor reports on the @MakeInIndia AK-203 that will shortly become the Indian Army’s primary assault rifle. Over 600,000 will be built at a facility in Amethi. Video includes a show-tell by Kalashnikov tech advisor Vladimir Okonoy.

 

[samsaptaka]

This guy seems to me to be a foreign arms lobbyist !

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

This guy seems to me to be a foreign arms lobbyist !

Who is an arms lobbyist?

30 character rule.......

 

[Noname34]

I have a serious question to ask i.e why are Indians so obsessed with the DPSUs which regularly fleece the soldiers, play politics and are indirectly/directly responsible for countless deaths amongst serving personnel?
Even with all the incompetence shown regarding INSAS the ofb was again handed over the manufacturing of the AKs with complete pomp and splendor by a sitting PM.
A serious country which actually cares for its soldiers would have ended these organizations a long time ago.
Yet all i see everywhere is Indians worshipping these incompetent organizations and calling serving soldiers import dalals and other things, people, who i should remind, are incapable of responding to such accusations?

 

[Noname34]

Also the AKs will cost $1000, still more costly than an average US army issue M4 priced at $700.
Prime example of OFB fleecing the army.

 

[vampyrbladez]

Also the AKs will cost $1000, still more costly than an average US army issue M4 priced at $700.
Prime example of OFB fleecing the army.

Mass production will make it ridiculously cheap!

 

[Noname34]

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Mass production will make it ridiculously cheap!

Considering the INSAS saga, i highly doubt it.

 

[itsme]

No news of the SIG 716 G2s?============

 

[vampyrbladez]

Considering the INSAS saga, i highly doubt it.

This is a modernised AKM not INSAS. INSAS will now equip all cops with .303s and Sterlings.

 

[Chinmoy]

I have a serious question to ask i.e why are Indians so obsessed with the DPSUs which regularly fleece the soldiers, play politics and are indirectly/directly responsible for countless deaths amongst serving personnel?
Even with all the incompetence shown regarding INSAS the ofb was again handed over the manufacturing of the AKs with complete pomp and splendor by a sitting PM.
A serious country which actually cares for its soldiers would have ended these organizations a long time ago.
Yet all i see everywhere is Indians worshipping these incompetent organizations and calling serving soldiers import dalals and other things, people, who i should remind, are incapable of responding to such accusations?

Problem in India is, we start blaming just a segment of people rather then looking at the whole picture.

In recent case of upcoming AK 203 plant, the IA has been handed over the job of overseeing the production. So now they would be responsible for any delay or below par production. Why this has not been done with other OFB plants till date? Who is responsible? Politicians know squat about armament production and same goes with the people working on the factory floor. But did we heard anything about IA fudging over or proposing even a liaison officer in OFB?

The easy way out for us is to license built something. Easy for politicians, easy for OFBwalas and easy for IA too. Have a look at Israel. Virtually the whole armament industry over there is been setup by ex army people. They are designing weapons based on their experience of battle field. But in our case what do we see? In US its the Army, Air force or Navy who gets directly involved in weapon designing phase. The programe is been scrutinized and looked after by respective department of defence from nascent stage.

Even look at out private industries. A JV for them is more profitable in small arms rather then spending in R&D. When Kalyani rolled out its first howitzer, the team who worked on it were novice in gun technology. Baba Kalyani could motivate the youngsters to try out their hands in big gun designing, but when it comes to small arm segment what has he done? He formed a JV with Baretta for small arm segment. Same goes with Punj Loyd. So whom to blame for this?

OFB are no doubt a bunch over bloated babus whose main objective is a 8 hour shift job. But blaming them for all is not going to solve the issue. Have a look at the current scenario to understand the reason behind our failure in arm production.

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

ITBP QRT
OFB GHATAK Rifles ( Except 2nd & 5th from left are M1F41 )

 

[Shadow]

INSAS with forearm grip.