Skirmishs at LOC, LAC & International Border

[ezsasa]

I hope whatever is planned by Modi/Shah/Doval is spectacular and will fix Kashmir problem once for all and also make Paki irrelevant in Afghanistan peace process.
We tolerated this Azadi bullshit 30 long years and paid heavy price for it. It just can’t go on like this.

Nope, that’s not what this is. Kashmir solution will not be a Big Bang event, it will be slow and deliberate.

 

[sorcerer]

Whatever it is, Kashmiris believe it is happening for sure

Srinagar, Aug 4 What next after nearly every Kashmiri household has stocked for the D-day they believe is imminent? Trifurcation, abrogation of 35A, delimitation, flag hoisting at every Panchayat in the valley on August 15 or a full blown, straightaway war between India and Pakistan? No marks for guessing that nobody, not even probably Governor Satya Pal Malik has a straight-faced answer to all this.

Governor Malik, probably for the first time, decided to do a bit of plain speaking when he said on Saturday: "All is well today, I cannot predict tomorrow".

That exactly is what every other top civil, police, paramilitary and army officer will tell you even if they choose to speak on this issue.

The result has been that the killing of seven terrorists of a Pakistani border action team (BAT) by the army in Keran sector off the Line of Control (LoC) two days back is blown out of proportion by desperate rumour mongers who want to turn Kashmir upside down.

The rumour-mongers want Kashmiris to believe that two diplomatically belligerent, nuclear-powered South Asian neighbours, would go to war and that would be a Sunday afternoon tea party.

"Around 40,000 Islamic fighters led by Hafeez Sayeed or Azhar Masood have been seen near the LoC in Gurez, which is close to Gilgit-Baltistan. They are waiting to sneak in". This might look like the fib of an uninformed rumour monger, but when this comes from someone who claims to have access to inside information, it is natural for Kashmiris to tremble with fear, but just momentarily.

Everyone swept off his/her feet by such a rumour would not miss to question as to how the so-called leaders in the 40,000 such fighters can afford to come on horseback to surprise an army that has just celebrated the 20th anniversary of the Kargil victory.

Nobody would miss to notice that Gurez, Gulgit and Baltistan are so far away from each other that any sabre-rattling fighter coming on horseback would drop dead of sheer fatigue and back ache.

And, to scotch the rumour finally, the fact that this is not the medieval world, when fighters on horseback would startle and shock each other.

So, the flutter about India and Pakistan going to war is ruled out, at least for the common Kashmiri who is neither dumb nor gullible to believe such a wild rumour.

"The built-up of such a magnitude in the hinterland completely dispels the notion that something serious is happening at the borders.

"The two countries have been clashing with each other on the LoC ever since they signed the bilateral ceasefire agreement in October 2013, which held wonderfully for just three years after which it has been observed only in its breach," said a local journalist.

Others, mostly elderly Kashmiris argue that they are too old not to see that something big is in the offing that would alter the constitutional relationship of the state with India.

"I am no strategic expert or analyst. I do not need to be one to tell you that in all likelihood Article 35A looks like going. There is no other explanation for such a built-up.

"During the India-Pakistan wars of 1965 and 1971 and also during the Kargil conflict of 1999, non-locals and and those belonging to the Jammu region were not asked to leave the Valley.

"Yatris and tourists were not asked to leave the Valley even during the worst turmoils and strife.

"They are going to change the constitutional relationship of the state with the rest of the country and that appears to be cut and dry.

"If all this is done for any photo-op focused around flag hoisting in remote villages of the Kashmir Valley on August 15, then those planning this at such a high pitch and magnitude must be living at the end of their fried nerves," said Bashir War, a retired veterinarian who served in Kargil district in 1999.

Reports suggest curfew passes have already been issued to staff maintaining essential services in the Valley. Deployments are already in place where they were intended to be except at some places in the Muslim-dominated areas of the Chenab Valley, including districts of Doda, Kishtwar and Ramban.

Would there be a rollback of the intended plan at this stage? Even those who do not know what actually is going to happen, say, "Highly unlikely".
https://www.outlookindia.com/newssc...iris-believe-it-is-happening-for-sure/1589676

 

[sorcerer]

My thoughts exactly!!!!
Current events should not be seen in isolation. Even the ongoing wave started when modi invited Nawaz for swearing in ceremony.

Basically we are telling the world “we have tried everything we possibly can, and we are running out of patience”.

the choreography started from DAY 1

 

[JKK]

Bhai I'm in Kolkata. The earthquake was imperceptible. I fart with more power than that.

No worries.

You should move closer to the LOC and fart more towards that side.
Gafoora can then rightly claim usage of cluster bombs and chemical weapons

 

[neel9821]

Whatever it is, Kashmiris believe it is happening for sure

Srinagar, Aug 4 What next after nearly every Kashmiri household has stocked for the D-day they believe is imminent? Trifurcation, abrogation of 35A, delimitation, flag hoisting at every Panchayat in the valley on August 15 or a full blown, straightaway war between India and Pakistan? No marks for guessing that nobody, not even probably Governor Satya Pal Malik has a straight-faced answer to all this.

Governor Malik, probably for the first time, decided to do a bit of plain speaking when he said on Saturday: "All is well today, I cannot predict tomorrow".

That exactly is what every other top civil, police, paramilitary and army officer will tell you even if they choose to speak on this issue.

The result has been that the killing of seven terrorists of a Pakistani border action team (BAT) by the army in Keran sector off the Line of Control (LoC) two days back is blown out of proportion by desperate rumour mongers who want to turn Kashmir upside down.

The rumour-mongers want Kashmiris to believe that two diplomatically belligerent, nuclear-powered South Asian neighbours, would go to war and that would be a Sunday afternoon tea party.

"Around 40,000 Islamic fighters led by Hafeez Sayeed or Azhar Masood have been seen near the LoC in Gurez, which is close to Gilgit-Baltistan. They are waiting to sneak in". This might look like the fib of an uninformed rumour monger, but when this comes from someone who claims to have access to inside information, it is natural for Kashmiris to tremble with fear, but just momentarily.

Everyone swept off his/her feet by such a rumour would not miss to question as to how the so-called leaders in the 40,000 such fighters can afford to come on horseback to surprise an army that has just celebrated the 20th anniversary of the Kargil victory.

Nobody would miss to notice that Gurez, Gulgit and Baltistan are so far away from each other that any sabre-rattling fighter coming on horseback would drop dead of sheer fatigue and back ache.

And, to scotch the rumour finally, the fact that this is not the medieval world, when fighters on horseback would startle and shock each other.

So, the flutter about India and Pakistan going to war is ruled out, at least for the common Kashmiri who is neither dumb nor gullible to believe such a wild rumour.

"The built-up of such a magnitude in the hinterland completely dispels the notion that something serious is happening at the borders.

"The two countries have been clashing with each other on the LoC ever since they signed the bilateral ceasefire agreement in October 2013, which held wonderfully for just three years after which it has been observed only in its breach," said a local journalist.

Others, mostly elderly Kashmiris argue that they are too old not to see that something big is in the offing that would alter the constitutional relationship of the state with India.

"I am no strategic expert or analyst. I do not need to be one to tell you that in all likelihood Article 35A looks like going. There is no other explanation for such a built-up.

"During the India-Pakistan wars of 1965 and 1971 and also during the Kargil conflict of 1999, non-locals and and those belonging to the Jammu region were not asked to leave the Valley.

"Yatris and tourists were not asked to leave the Valley even during the worst turmoils and strife.

"They are going to change the constitutional relationship of the state with the rest of the country and that appears to be cut and dry.

"If all this is done for any photo-op focused around flag hoisting in remote villages of the Kashmir Valley on August 15, then those planning this at such a high pitch and magnitude must be living at the end of their fried nerves," said Bashir War, a retired veterinarian who served in Kargil district in 1999.

Reports suggest curfew passes have already been issued to staff maintaining essential services in the Valley. Deployments are already in place where they were intended to be except at some places in the Muslim-dominated areas of the Chenab Valley, including districts of Doda, Kishtwar and Ramban.

Would there be a rollback of the intended plan at this stage? Even those who do not know what actually is going to happen, say, "Highly unlikely".
https://www.outlookindia.com/newssc...iris-believe-it-is-happening-for-sure/1589676

We should also go for common civil code and abolish Muslim personal law. One country one rule!!!

 

[sorcerer]

We should also go for common civil code and abolish Muslim personal law. One country one rule!!!

will happen..eventually...
make India more SECULAR

 

[ezsasa]

Well said!!!!
Journalists dumb the,
Journalists dumb hai,
Aur journalists dumb rahenge!!!!
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What we are witnessing today is exactly same. During Queen's time all "strategic" experts had deep connection with establishment. Their "insights" were basically govt's way of propaganda or public response gathering exercise. All these shallow experts are exposed today

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Same in German,France etc media too.

In all Western &Jihadi media the so-called representatives of India are always leftist scums.They never take views of any neutral person forget about RW.

Actually Western propaganda media is flag bearer of White-West hegemony.

The west does not want an assertive India.. period.. That is why these ultra-leftist Indian roaches are cultivated... and it's not going to change..

 

[aghamarshana]

Well said!!!!
Journalists dumb the,
Journalists dumb hai,
Aur journalists dumb rahenge!!!!
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What we are witnessing today is exactly same. During Queen's time all "strategic" experts had deep connection with establishment. Their "insights" were basically govt's way of propaganda or public response gathering exercise. All these shallow experts are exposed today

By making them significant within media,academia, the Bar dancer and her ilk created an entire fckin ecosystem which runs propaganda and built a narrative. A generation of cucks made.

 

[Illusive]

Still it amazes me how the fu* kashmir saved in 1989 .. We are in edge of bankruptcy,totally dependent on russian arms which itself is collapsing,Jihadis morale is all time high,total hostile population in kashmir,sikcular khangress govt still i think only thing that saved kashmir is ''Indian Army ruthless nature and khangress know if they loss kashmir forget about PM not even one ward member from Congress is elected from anywhere in India in next elections''(Hindu majority areas).

The basics of trying to overthrow or occupy a territory is the aggressor having the substantial firepower over the defender or manpower. The aggressor being the talibunnies and the defender being Indian Army. Now tell me, does the paki army or talibunies have this considering the whole idea here is that of infiltration since kashmiris themselves haven't taken up arms. Not in the quantity pakis desired. So it was always going to fail, even at our worst circumstances. This goes for any invasion.

The whole idea of pakis is Indians will be either tired of fighting these talibunnies (which shows paki delusions at its maximum) or to create a situation where India is seen as an oppressor and invite international condemnation and try to resolve kashmir through their intervention, which is far more cunning plan than the former. Alhas for pakis, both failed.

For us to solve this is straightforward, destroy pakis. But as i said, for that we need overwhelming firepower which we don't. We do that in 3 ways destroy them economically, isolation and then invasion.

 

[Butter Chicken]

Heavy Pak casualties in Leepa and Rawalkot sectors

 

[Butter Chicken]

Koi Rona band karo Inka

 

[Holy Triad]

Where #PakistanArmy uses #mortar shells made in #Pakistan against #Kashmiri civilians living in #Pakistan Occupied #Kashmir to try & defame the
@adgpi
. They've used these same shells against the #Pashtun & civilian population in #Balochistan earlier as well.

 

[indus]

PM to chair crucial security meeting at 9.30 am tomorrow.

 

[Sanglamorre]

You should move closer to the LOC and fart more towards that side.
Gafoora can then rightly claim usage of cluster bombs and chemical weapons

I just need to eat some leftover biryani and it'll be an orbital bombardment of chemical bombs. Xd

 

[ezsasa]

We invented gorilla warfare.
Pkmkb pkmkb pkmkb

Gorilla guerrilla .........................

 

[tomato]

How many of us are on twitter, it will be fun if we go after Paki Trolls together....
I am there as @6Bblu, I promise to follow / follow back all from DFI

following you with handle "Paki_Begging_Bowl" @BowlPaki ..doing some pkmkb..
hope more will join pork chop party

 

[indus]

Maheboobi to organize meeting at her home after Govt orders hotels to not give bookings to politicians for meetings https://www.news18.com/news/india/k...ir-india-srinagar-amaranth-yatra-2257393.html

 

[daya]

Paki morons are disowning their BATs, usually..

 

[Illusive]

Paki morons are disowning their BATs, usually..

Cremate their bodies with hindu rituals, pakis fear this more than death:biggrin2: