Skirmishs at LOC, LAC & International Border

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pankaj nema

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Bdw..few points from my side

1.we destroyed tanks ,apc
2.we destroyed a runway ,f16
3.we destroyed their ammo dump
4.we destroyed their artillery station
5.we are having ins chakra , Arihant in Arabian sea
When Pakis say that IAF has placed a large
Number of planes at Forward Bases
This obviously means that Some Incidents
Have taken place
 

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The worst thing is our next generation don't care about national security , they dont care about forces . our next generation is affected with there ideology we have to keep eyes on our school & colleges & social media .
We have inflicted too much greed in our next generation .They want to build their career, live in posh houses , driver luxury cars and that's it. They don't know what is happening in the country and what are the possible dangers. We have made them the horse of race running behind getting good grade and good jobs followed by good house and good wife. I see some hopes in Gurukuls like one run by Patanjali where education is comprehensive and students are made patriotic. Then know history very well and they are made aware of possible dangers faced by the country.
 

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BJP Will Revive Plan for 'Secured Camps' In Kashmir to Resettle Pandits, Says Ram Madhav


Ram Madhav, BJP national general secretary, said his party was committed to bring back some of the estimated 200,000-300,000 Hindus who fled the Jammu and Kashmir after the armed revolt that began in 1989.

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"Their fundamental rights of returning to the valley have to be respected. At the same time, we have to provide them proper security," Madhav said in an interview, referring to the Kashmiri Pandits.


Madhav said that a previous BJP-backed government in Jammu and Kashmir state had considered building either separate or mixed resettlement townships, but had been unable to make headway. "No consensus could be built around any one view," he said.



A blueprint unveiled by the state government in 2015 had proposed self-contained, heavily guarded colonies for returning Pandits, complete with schools, shopping malls, hospitals and playgrounds.




After State Poll

The BJP is confident that it will win the upcoming state poll, Madhav said, adding that the resettlement plan would be back in play.

"I am sure when we come back to power, we will again take it up and try and see if a solution can be found," he said.

Unlike the last time, the BJP isn't looking to come to power through alliances, Madhav said,
freeing itself of major regional parties that represent the region's Muslims.

The issue of Hindu resettlement in Kashmir has long been on the agenda of the BJP, but appears to have received fresh impetus after the party's second successive general election victory in May.


After living side-by-side with Kashmiri Muslims for centuries, Pandits fled for safety after a sharp rise in killings and attacks by Muslim militants when the insurgency flared in 1989.

One of the largest migrations since India's independence from Britain in 1947, many Pandits settled in refugee camps around Jammu. Only around 800 Pandit families now remain in the Kashmir Valley, according to some estimates.



https://www.news18.com/amp/news/pol...resettle-pandits-says-ram-madhav-2228645.html



Finally,a road map for resettlement "zones":clap2:
 
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Fatf might be the reason we are not declaring the revenge ,this might be the foreign pressure Baba is talking about.

Can anyone explain if we declare our attacks what effect will it have on fatf blacklisting of pakis?
They might also get moral support as India will be seen as aggressor .
But if FATF fails again then I think things might get interesting.
FATF as a body is only concerned with whether a country has sufficient legislative and institutional mechanism to monitor, track, disrupt and prosecute actors and organizations that are involved in money laundering, including terrorist organizations. It does not necessarily concern itself with security and defense policies of states. Getting pakistan blacklisted in the FATF is onerous because they only need the support of atleast 3 member state to be not in the list.
 

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BJP Will Revive Plan for 'Secured Camps' In Kashmir to Resettle Pandits, Says Ram Madhav


Ram Madhav, BJP national general secretary, said his party was committed to bring back some of the estimated 200,000-300,000 Hindus who fled the Jammu and Kashmir after the armed revolt that began in 1989.

Excerpts:


"Their fundamental rights of returning to the valley have to be respected. At the same time, we have to provide them proper security," Madhav said in an interview, referring to the Kashmiri Pandits.


Madhav said that a previous BJP-backed government in Jammu and Kashmir state had considered building either separate or mixed resettlement townships, but had been unable to make headway. "No consensus could be built around any one view," he said.



A blueprint unveiled by the state government in 2015 had proposed self-contained, heavily guarded colonies for returning Pandits, complete with schools, shopping malls, hospitals and playgrounds.




After State Poll

The BJP is confident that it will win the upcoming state poll, Madhav said, adding that the resettlement plan would be back in play.

"I am sure when we come back to power, we will again take it up and try and see if a solution can be found," he said.

Unlike the last time, the BJP isn't looking to come to power through alliances, Madhav said,
freeing itself of major regional parties that represent the region's Muslims.

The issue of Hindu resettlement in Kashmir has long been on the agenda of the BJP, but appears to have received fresh impetus after the party's second successive general election victory in May.


After living side-by-side with Kashmiri Muslims for centuries, Pandits fled for safety after a sharp rise in killings and attacks by Muslim militants when the insurgency flared in 1989.

One of the largest migrations since India's independence from Britain in 1947, many Pandits settled in refugee camps around Jammu. Only around 800 Pandit families now remain in the Kashmir Valley, according to some estimates.



https://www.news18.com/amp/news/pol...resettle-pandits-says-ram-madhav-2228645.html



Finally,a road map for resettlement "zones":clap2:
Resettlement is a long term project. The more immediate gauge of how serious the BJP is about its poll promises would be the fate of article 35a and 370. The NDA is close to majority in the rajya sabha too. I hope these articles are consigned to the dustbin of history by next year.
 

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Hi Guys. I have been following all the chatter on the forum, but didnt have anything substantive to share or post.
However some more details have emerged

As I mentioned earlier, India did strike an airbase and managed to snag f-16 fighters that were on the runway.
Also on the day of the Balakote strike , we hit Pak army baracks in chakothi and muzzafrabad, and that is one reason why a lot has not been said about those strikes
They were apparently a military to military response in order to inflict casualties on the Paki army in a number that was 3-5 times our casualty figure.

Post Balakot stikes were also carried out against ground installations across the LOC. At some point I even mentioned salami slicing.
Therefore@patriot, what baba may be referring to might be events in those skirmishes.

The tactics from the indian side seem very clear

Adopt an aggressive policy and grow the economy. And keep enhancing the gulf year on year and make the response even more aggressive with the passage of time.
 

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Fatf might be the reason we are not declaring the revenge ,this might be the foreign pressure Baba is talking about.

Can anyone explain if we declare our attacks what effect will it have on fatf blacklisting of pakis?
They might also get moral support as India will be seen as aggressor .
But if FATF fails again then I think things might get interesting.
We buggering the Pakis on the LoC/IB and beyond will have no effect on FATF as that is purely concerned with funding and money laundering of terrorist entities for terror activities.

However, do note that Xiangmin Liu of the People's Republic of China has assumed the position of President of the FATF on July 1, 2019. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out what that means!!
 
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We buggering the Pakis on the LoC/IB and beyond will have no effect on FATF as that is purely concerned with funding and money laundering of terrorist entities for terror activities.

However, do note that Xiangmin Liu of the People's Republic of China has assumed the position of President of the FATF on July 1, 2019. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out what that means!!
Pakistan may get out of FATF list even grey list.
 

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But shiv aroor in his books says that chakothi and muzzafarabad were not targeted ,they however were on list of 10 possible targets which were provided by IAF to govt. and they chose the balakot because of least collateral damage possiblity ,
You are spot on! I don't know how this so called 'attack' on M'bad and Chakoti got so much prominence. There was none. Period!
 

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Pakistan may get out of FATF list even grey list.
Not likely. Pakis need atleast 15 of the FATF members to support its removal from the Grey list - an unlikely thing to happen any time soon.
However to prevent it being put on the Black list, Pakis need only 3 members to oppose it. China, Malaysia & Turkey are likely to save Pakis from being put on Black list!

Some Pakis may say that they were on Grey list several times before and it didn't pinch them much, but the fact remains that in the recent years being on the Grey list itself is quite stinging given the changes made by FATF.
 

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There was a BSF mobilisation exercise on IB recently, any updates on that?
 

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These fukrs are as confused as a chemelion in a bag of colored skittles! :doh:
The ridiculous statement suggesting that India will have to remove certain aircraft from “forward “ bases is as dumb as it gets. Maybe if this was a private suggestion for CBM’s, it might have made sense. Making it public means that such an move will never be taken up. No country will allow its adversary to dictate what platforms and systems are placed where. Imagine the Pakistanis repeating the same if India were to deploy S400 somewhere there.

I’m quite comfortable with Pakistanis keeping their airspace closed,we should get used to this being the norm.
 

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The ridiculous statement suggesting that India will have to remove certain aircraft from “forward “ bases is as dumb as it gets. Maybe if this was a private suggestion for CBM’s, it might have made sense. Making it public means that such an move will never be taken up. No country will allow its adversary to dictate what platforms and systems are placed where. Imagine the Pakistanis repeating the same if India were to deploy S400 somewhere there.

I’m quite comfortable with Pakistanis keeping their airspace closed,we should get used to this being the norm.
I agree with you totally! The only issue is that the extra flight time of 2 to 3 hours and extra money that we have to shell out especially from Delhi to Europe, the Middle East and central Asia. But that's ok if we see it in the light of our national security which takes precedence over everything else.

 

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I agree with you totally! The only issue is that the extra flight time of 2 to 3 hours and extra money that we have to shell out especially from Delhi to Europe, the Middle East and central Asia. But that's ok if we see it in the light of our national security which takes precedence over everything else.

Why not take the northern route through aksai chin and then china for europe.
 

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Do we have turret mounted AI controlled sniper rifle type system which continuously aims at paki soldiers across the border? That way we can target them efficiency without spending much money.
 
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