Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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tribendra bisoi

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some nice point raised viz chronology of events.
but typical rant about babaji being Nationalist
The shock and awe surprise me after knowing the full history behind this conflict and about georgia etc.. Any decent guy in strategic community would have guessed this war before years ... Now they want to divide the world order in to democratic vs totalitarian .. good vs evil .. As much as people dislike non alignment movement that was the most moralistic thing to do back then .. But yeah it was not realistic for bunch of poor countries to have a say in this matter .
 

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thread dead Russian General.

apparently he was leading Russian paratroopers

basically Russian threw paratroopers at Ukraine , thinking Ukranians will run away , instead they got thrashed

I don't follow his logic.

He didn't provide any evidence of those paratroopers being beaten back.
Liek we saw news of paratroopers attacking some airport in the beginning.

Who is controlling that now?

Rest of his thread is a rant about how russia views urkaine as per western propaganda and by that circular logic, russian paratroopers are riot police and russian invasion is failed thus the paratroopers are riot police and we're beaten back.

Only the point on their previous track record being outside actual conventional war holds true.
 

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It really is a senseless war.
Like brothers fighting against each other.
Both are of same ethnic stock - Slavs.
Its like the US and UK fighting against each other. Both being Anglo Saxons.

I will not support Russia if they employ Nazi Germany like tactics and indulge in gross human rights violations.
But certain facts have to be noted.
Russia is undoubtedly an Great Power and still an nuclear Superpower. Though economically they are under performing and well below their potential.
So they rightly feel that they should have an sphere of influence at least in their neighbourhood and safeguard their security.

Nothing very offensive. Most great powers did not take kindly to their smaller neighbours posing an security threat to them.

I am sure that the United States will not like Mexico or Canada to become security threats to itself. Will the United States renounce the use of force if tomorrow Mexico comes under strong Chinese influence and even allows its territory to host Chinese missiles (probably nuclear armed) and other Chinese arms. Or will they allow Canada to become an Russian ally and threaten the US.

I believe the United States will not rule out the use of force to overthrow the Government's of both Mexico and Canada. Because vital national security interests are in peril.

The Cuban missile crisis is still an reminder of the dangers.

So, why does NATO have to continuously enlarge and reach the land borders of Russia. It is a military alliance and may be seen as threatening by most Russians. Thereby provoking them.

If Ukraine had been made strictly neutral and not considered for NATO membership it would not have acted as a trigger.

So both the Western alliance led
 

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Velina Tchakarova (@vtchakarova) Tweeted:
I anticipate military tensions between China 🇨🇳 and India 🇮🇳 ahead of September (CCP) as Xi Jinping is dedicated to solidifying his power and will need the strong support of his military hawks too. Taiwan is not an option, so it will likely affect India. #realpolitik #geopolitics
Is it surprising we had time since June 2020 to build up logistics, rotate troops and re align our battle plan. Now, it is only PLA decision to strike.
We will keep doing RFP and scrap modernisation plan, no issues😂
 

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Velina Tchakarova (@vtchakarova) Tweeted:
I anticipate military tensions between China 🇨🇳 and India 🇮🇳 ahead of September (CCP) as Xi Jinping is dedicated to solidifying his power and will need the strong support of his military hawks too. Taiwan is not an option, so it will likely affect India. #realpolitik #geopolitics
muricans are desperate now eh? :rofl:
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The The NOVUS store chain is terminating its partnership with Coca-Cola, as the company continues to do business in Russia and Belarus. The company's products will no longer be available on store shelves.

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I don't follow his logic.

He didn't provide any evidence of those paratroopers being beaten back.
Liek we saw news of paratroopers attacking some airport in the beginning.

Who is controlling that now?

Rest of his thread is a rant about how russia views urkaine as per western propaganda and by that circular logic, russian paratroopers are riot police and russian invasion is failed thus the paratroopers are riot police and we're beaten back.

Only the point on their previous track record being outside actual conventional war holds true.
VDV have been pretty dismal this war. The fact that the general died this early into the war sums it up. Not sure why so many Indians here simp after Russia more than russians themselves. Worse than western sepoys
 

Haldilal

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Ya'll Nibbiars The This from the Wargonzo video, reportedly in Volnovakha - Donetsk region. One Russian soldier is seen carrying a tablet and a hand controller of some kind, with antennas. Suspect he is controlling some kind of smaller UAV, quite possibly a COTS variant.

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LaIllahaSigmar

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VDV have been pretty dismal this war. The fact that the general died this early into the war sums it up. Not sure why so many Indians here simp after Russia more than russians themselves. Worse than western sepoys
what simping?
Only Ukrainians have claimed it.

And the twitter thread hasn't provided any information of the supposed failed operations by vdv but appeals to the narrative that russian invasion has failed, which itself is questionable.
 

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I don't follow his logic.

He didn't provide any evidence of those paratroopers being beaten back.
Liek we saw news of paratroopers attacking some airport in the beginning.

Who is controlling that now?

Rest of his thread is a rant about how russia views urkaine as per western propaganda and by that circular logic, russian paratroopers are riot police and russian invasion is failed thus the paratroopers are riot police and we're beaten back.

Only the point on their previous track record being outside actual conventional war holds true.
he is basing it on pics of airborne russian troops being ambushed and killed.

this is what they look like in bucha



seen people claim that Russia is simply throwing them at Ukraine and they get ambushed and killed

i think things will be clear after war .
 

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muricans are desperate now eh? :rofl:
Dude should worry about the Chinese flying sorties over Taiwan ADIZ everyday.

If Taiwan is not an option, India is most definitely not an option. Any one of those sorties one day could turn into precision strikes on military infrastructure and US would do little more than bitch or moan, especially now after the Ukraine fiasco has called their bluff.
 

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