Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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ww2historian

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Incorrect. Barring some miracle, Operation Barbarossa was doomed from the start in its goal to destroy the Soviet Union.

Soviets wouldn't be defeated even if they lost Battle of Moscow (which was unlikely, as original Axis couldn't even breach the outer perimeter of the city to transition to urban combat a-la Battle of Stalingrad), while Axis exhausted their trump card (Panzergruppe) by that point and wouldn't be able to press forward anyway.

Soviets didn't need lend-lease to win. Both Moscow and Stalingrad were won before lend-lease took off.

>but, muh muh muh support!

Yes America gave support to the allies, American pilots and planes helped England, American logistical equipment helped the Soviets and America provided both to the Chinese.

But it didn't change anything, it just helped. Germany still would never have been able to knock England out of the fight and the 7% of Soviet equipment that was lend lease wouldn't change the fact that the Germans had already gotten bogged down outside of Moscow and Leningrad before most of it had arrived, the Soviets had already moved enough of their industry East and the German army had terrible supply chains.

American troops did a shit job in North Africa, they did a shit job in Italy, Brits/Canadians did all the heavy fighting in France, Market Garden was a major failure, bla bla bla.

America spent 4 years fighting starving Japs on shitty nowhere islands and still had to nuke them twice just to convince their pussy emperor Hirohito to consider peace and even then the Japs were shitting their pants more at the Russians.
In hindsight England would of been defeated had Hitler not stop the Panzers from advancing on Dunkirk. Barbarossa was badly planned. All effort and planning should of been to take the oil in the Caucasus from the beginning, at soon as possible, at all cost.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The Russia announce annexation of Ukrainian territories. The Vladimir Putin just declared that four provinces of Ukraine will become Russian territory based on referendums that took place this week.

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Putin: Western elites deny not only national sovereignty and international law. Their hegemony has a pronounced character of totalitarianism, despotism and apartheid.

The labels "rogue state", "authoritarian regime" brand entire states, there is nothing new in this, the West has remained colonialist."
 

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Lyman has been surrounded by ukranians . No reinforcement is coming as per internet sources . And all these media , speech etc going on in Russia .. there must be something we are missing .
 

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I thought this was a military forum, not a pervert forum.
As for fighting, everything has its time. I am not afraid of a challenge and have already been to the military registration and enlistment office several times, but the medical board does not let my injury pass, even to support units. Therefore, I envy the guys who are at the front. They write history.
Yes folks @Akim our resident Tri-curious Ukrainian they/themme fatale, has an injury pass, which means they/them can't even shit without having to show the pass. That's their go-to excuse for being a limp fruit basket.

They write history indeed, history of a burnt/hollowed out Ukraine.
 

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I'll make a prediction based on all the news I've heard. Russia is planning a huge counter offensive. Part of this plan might be to withdraw from Lyman. Is Russia planning a Manstein type counter attack? "Despite Adolf Hitler's orders to hold the city, Kharkov was abandoned by German forces and the city was recaptured by the Red Army on 16 February.[19] Hitler immediately flew to Manstein's headquarters at Zaporizhia. Manstein informed him that an immediate counterattack on Kharkov would be fruitless, but that he could successfully attack the overextended Soviet flank with his five Panzer corps, and recapture the city later.[20]"
This current situation is similar to the 3rd battle of Kharkov (it was even fought in the same area.) It's also similar to the 2nd battle of Kharkov. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Battle_of_Kharkov
 

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THIS IS NOT RIGHT,,,... we can agree/disagree, can have our opinion which other may or may not agree-able to others, or cast our votes against popular trend, YET those who voted, have every right to do so... why make it public forcefully in a sarcastic manner.!!!
 

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THIS IS NOT RIGHT,,,... we can agree/disagree, can have our opinion which other may or may not agree-able to others, or cast our votes against popular trend, YET those who voted, have every right to do so... why make it public forcefully in a sarcastic manner.!!!
Ya'll Nibbiars

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@Akim
Congratulations. Russia were asking two states now they have 5 province and Sea of Azov.

According to Liberandu-Sickulars people wish is supreme Hence, referendum hold all principles of democracy.

So Ukrainian Nazi must vacates Russian land and cease all hostility and aggression against innocent people of Russia.

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