Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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GaudaNaresh

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Maybe before they invaded Ukraine, do you think they can overrun the Baltics now? And keyword is overrun. Nobody expects them to hold that territory. This is not Soviet Union; this is Russia.
they don't need to overrun. they will just nuke helsinki and nato will either escalate to nuclear war or cave.
 

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Maybe before they invaded Ukraine, do you think they can overrun the Baltics now? And keyword is overrun. Nobody expects them to hold that territory. This is not Soviet Union; this is Russia.
Note that Finland (a Nazi ally) sued for peace with stalin as soon as Estonia fell to Soviets in WW2.. NATO will try to defend Estonia, by using air bases in Finland. Hence, in a Russia NATO war, Both Estonia and Finland will be attacked by Russia simultaneously..

Unlike Ukraine, Russia is extensively rotating its troops.. with only 150k troops operating in Ukraine at any time.. You can see a lot of videos of Russian troops returning home after being rotated out.. It's been four months now, another six months and there would be probably more than a million battle hardened Russian troops, with experience in fighting a NATO trained and backed enemy. RUSSIAN Army will be the army with the maximum experience of modern warfare..
As to equipment, although Russia has lost a lot of Armour.. It must be said that, except for tanks NATO is also rapidly depleting its inventory of anti-armour weapons like javelin and panzerfaust.. also MANPADS like Stinger etc.. are being rapidly depleted.. ( 1/3 rd stocks lost ) .. Now.. NATO nations are stripping themselves of artillery by supplying them to Ukraine.. All this as per NATO sources will take many Years to restock..
So, both Russia and NATO are suffering attrition..
 

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they don't need to overrun. they will just nuke helsinki and nato will either escalate to nuclear war or cave.
Nope .. Russia won't nuke first in a baltic conflict .. Russia had overestimated NATO ground warfare capabilities.. Especially its ammunition production and stocks..
Although not as mighty as the Soviet Union in ground warfare, Russia is still more than a match for NATO in ground warfare.
 

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Note that Finland (a Nazi ally) sued for peace with stalin as soon as Estonia fell to Soviets in WW2.. NATO will try to defend Estonia, by using air bases in Finland. Hence, in a Russia NATO war, Both Estonia and Finland will be attacked by Russia simultaneously..

Unlike Ukraine, Russia is extensively rotating its troops.. with only 150k troops operating in Ukraine at any time.. You can see a lot of videos of Russian troops returning home after being rotated out.. It's been four months now, another six months and there would be probably more than a million battle hardened Russian troops, with experience in fighting a NATO trained and backed enemy. RUSSIAN Army will be the army with the maximum experience of modern warfare..
As to equipment, although Russia has lost a lot of Armour.. It must be said that, except for tanks NATO is also rapidly depleting its inventory of anti-armour weapons like javelin and panzerfaust.. also MANPADS like Stinger etc.. are being rapidly depleted.. ( 1/3 rd stocks lost ) .. Now.. NATO nations are stripping themselves of artillery by supplying them to Ukraine.. All this as per NATO sources will take many Years to restock..
So, both Russia and NATO are suffering attrition..
Not to forget, the vast majority of Russian armor losses consist of outdated models like BTR 80s and T-72s.
 

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Nope .. Russia won't nuke first in a baltic conflict .. Russia had overestimated NATO ground warfare capabilities.. Especially its ammunition production and stocks..
Although not as mighty as the Soviet Union in ground warfare, Russia is still more than a match for NATO in ground warfare.
Their biggest problem against NATO is gonna be their ever-dwindling population size.
 

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Why are people behaving like Russia is going to do the 60 IQ and suicidal move of invading the Baltics/NATO when there's an active war going on ? :bplease:
Literally just wave those 7K nukes in the combined pale faces of NATO.


Doing ungli of Article 5 is ok when everything is changa si, it's not now so it's fucking stupid instead of just being "risky"
 

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All the countries bordering baltic sea except Russia has now joined NATO



LIthuania is acting up since finland and sweden joined NATO .


Putin warning to Finland , Sweden . if Putins goal was to prevent Ukraine joining NATO (i doubt it) . this is major setback.

 

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All the countries bordering baltic sea except Russia has now joined NATO



LIthuania is acting up since finland and sweden joined NATO .


Putin warning to Finland , Sweden . if Putins goal was to prevent Ukraine joining NATO (i doubt it) . this is major setback.

how is it a major setback when there won't be a ukraine to join nato in the first place ?
 

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All the countries bordering baltic sea except Russia has now joined NATO



LIthuania is acting up since finland and sweden joined NATO .


Putin warning to Finland , Sweden . if Putins goal was to prevent Ukraine joining NATO (i doubt it) . this is major setback.

"if Putins goal was to prevent Ukraine joining NATO (i doubt it) . this is major setback."
What is this Ukraine are you talking about Baba? Did you see the map recently?
 

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"if Putins goal was to prevent Ukraine joining NATO (i doubt it) . this is major setback."
What is this Ukraine are you talking about Baba? Did you see the map recently?
how is it a major setback when there won't be a ukraine to join nato in the first place ?
not Ukraine , Finland and Sweden joining NATO .

missiles being placed closed to Russian borders was Russians gripe with NATO .
 

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All the countries bordering baltic sea except Russia has now joined NATO



LIthuania is acting up since finland and sweden joined NATO .


Putin warning to Finland , Sweden . if Putins goal was to prevent Ukraine joining NATO (i doubt it) . this is major setback.

Ukraine can't join NATO because a country that is joining NATO cannot have any active conflicts :troll:

Finland is as of now not a NATO member so in this small window no Article 5 protection.

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and you know a country at conflict cannot join NATO and all.
This Peter the Great bhakt will do the needful to finlandia...
 

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