Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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Blademaster

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A lot of things are now decided by the battle for Donbass. When the Russians wear down their forces, they will have to retreat. The front line is very large. They will not be able to hold it with the available forces. Mobilization in Russia has not been announced. In order to save their army, they need to regroup. Russian generals know this, but military science and politics are often incompatible.
To announce the capture of Mariupol without Azovstal is like refusing to storm the inner castle in the Middle Ages.
In the Middle Ages, surrounding a stronghold and starving one's inhabitants was a very common tactic. Look at the contravallation constructed by the Romans and the assault against the Masada fort.
 

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Fake news spread by Ukranian ambassador to Japan -

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Ukraine’s ambassador to Japan to speak at JNU online event, shares misinformation about India’s permission to aid-carrying plane

Spokesperson of the Ministry of External Affairs Arindam Bagchi had said in a regular media briefing on April 21, "We had received a request from Japan for permission to land in Mumbai to pick up humanitarian goods for Ukraine & its neighbouring countries from India. We have given the approval to pick supplies by using commercial aircraft."

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What truth is this guy going to tell? Like the Khost of Kyiv?
This guy needs to be stopped from speaking. Cut off the power or something.
 

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seems to be official .

odessa + rest of south Ukraine is the target


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The publication, Readovka, posted on the Russian social media platform VK that the Defense Ministry had announced in a closed briefing that 13,414 Russian soldiers had been killed and 7,000 more were missing in Ukraine.

Additionally, the post claimed that the sinking of the Moskva warship had left 116 dead and more than 100 missing.

The post was quickly deleted by Readovka. The outlet claimed its VK page had been hacked.


If true, that can only mean Odessa is next.
 

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But it is commonsense that if you are being able to pin and hold opponent in such a way, that they have to either force out in masses to break free and disperse from direct line of fire, or to get boned while going running out of life sustaining elements or just to take arms up to let themselves in! is not it?
Why should Russia waste and risk their decaying man and fire power against already trapped opponents. Same way you had your great tank and apu killing sprees when Russian armored elements got slowed by heavy mud due to melting snow, and went easy pray hunt with drones!!
Point to be noted that Mariupol has gone behind current enemy line for Ukraine , so in order to reinforce them or to rescue them, you would have to cross russian line of fire.
1. We have mobilized and a new army is being prepared, almost equal in number to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The very first blow is always more difficult and it is reflected.
I want to remind you that the Soviet Union lost much more territory in 2 months. But later go liberation
2. Yes, Mariupol is under blockade. But already the enemy is forced to withdraw part of his troops and transfer them to the north, which can turn into a counterattack.
 
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No even before war you were a proponent of war to solve this political disagreement. So now this wish has been granted but victory will it be to pre 2014 or pre 24feb position?
Until the borders of 1991.
Yes, I was in favor of a military solution. There was no political solution. Wherever Russia comes, there is degradation. Transnistria is a vivid example of this. 30 years of political chatter.
 

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Until the borders of 1991.
Yes, I was in favor of a military solution. There was no political solution. Wherever Russia comes, there is degradation. Transnistria is a vivid example of this. 30 years of political chatter.
We know that's why everyone down here is happy that Russia finally had balls to respond back to the continuous war cry and attack on Donbass by mighty Azov and Ukraine.

Ukraine must be pleased as a nation too that they are finally getting the war they were yearning for years.

What I don't understand is their media propaganda.


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Reality - Genociders getting toasted. Their women getting wasted elsewhere. Ukrainian teenagers with middle aged strangers. The nationalists couldn't have had it any better.

Trending keyword for a quick reality check - Mariupol.

But..but... Putler lost.

#TheekHai
Meanwhile the Ukreenian 'charity' porn fest continues unabated across Europe. At every turn, you are bombarded with literally dozens of ads raising funds for Ukreen. Even Uncle Ron McDonald is trying to mug you off on behalf of Ukreen- guess millions are being stolen in this way everyday from ordinary 'Europeans' already struggling to pay their bills.

Now Germany has announced that Ukrainian refugees will be awarded the same out of work payments that Germans (who pay into the system for years before building up any entitlement) are offered. This could turn into a huge draw for freeloading Ukrainians- it won't be long before patience starts to run out in many EU countries.

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I love Biden's BS. "
US sending weapons “directly to the front lines of freedom” in Ukraine
The truth is most of the weapons are still in Poland and the weapon stockpiles arriving in Lviv have been destroyed. Here's more of his BS "Moreover, the US is sharing timely intelligence with Ukraine, Biden stated, calling the battle of Kyiv a "historic victory" for the Ukrainians, though noting that now is the time to accelerate assistance. The new package will ensure a steady flow of weapons into Ukraine over the next few weeks, Biden said, though he warned that he had almost exhausted the "draw down" authority Congress had given to him, noting he will be asking Congress for more." He's clueless about Kiev being a successful diversion. Putin most love what he's hearing, including this.
Putin ‘Misinformed’ by Advisers on the War, White House Says
  • ‘Persistent tension’ between Putin and military leaders cited
  • Assessment is based on findings by U.S. intelligence agencies
  • White House Believes Putin Felt 'Misled': Bedingfield
Russian President Vladimir Putin has been misinformed by advisers about his military’s performance in Ukraine and the effect of sanctions on his country’s economy, a White House spokeswoman said, citing unspecified U.S. intelligence.
“We have information that Putin felt misled by the Russian military which has resulted in persistent tension between Putin and his military leadership,” White House Communications Director Kate Bedingfield said in a briefing Wednesday. “We believe that Putin is being misinformed by his advisers about how badly the Russian military is performing, and how the Russian economy is being crippled by sanctions because his senior advisers are too afraid to tell him the truth.” Putin is laughing his ass off.
 

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I love Biden's BS. "
US sending weapons “directly to the front lines of freedom” in Ukraine
The truth is most of the weapons are still in Poland and the weapon stockpiles arriving in Lviv have been destroyed. Here's more of his BS "Moreover, the US is sharing timely intelligence with Ukraine, Biden stated, calling the battle of Kyiv a "historic victory" for the Ukrainians, though noting that now is the time to accelerate assistance. The new package will ensure a steady flow of weapons into Ukraine over the next few weeks, Biden said, though he warned that he had almost exhausted the "draw down" authority Congress had given to him, noting he will be asking Congress for more." He's clueless about Kiev being a successful diversion. Putin most love what he's hearing, including this.
Putin ‘Misinformed’ by Advisers on the War, White House Says
  • ‘Persistent tension’ between Putin and military leaders cited
  • Assessment is based on findings by U.S. intelligence agencies
  • White House Believes Putin Felt 'Misled': Bedingfield
Russian President Vladimir Putin has been misinformed by advisers about his military’s performance in Ukraine and the effect of sanctions on his country’s economy, a White House spokeswoman said, citing unspecified U.S. intelligence.
“We have information that Putin felt misled by the Russian military which has resulted in persistent tension between Putin and his military leadership,” White House Communications Director Kate Bedingfield said in a briefing Wednesday. “We believe that Putin is being misinformed by his advisers about how badly the Russian military is performing, and how the Russian economy is being crippled by sanctions because his senior advisers are too afraid to tell him the truth.” Putin is laughing his ass off.
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Meanwhile the Ukreenian 'charity' porn fest continues unabated across Europe. At every turn, you are bombarded with literally dozens of ads raising funds for Ukreen. Even Uncle Ron McDonald is trying to mug you off on behalf of Ukreen- guess millions are being stolen in this way everyday from ordinary 'Europeans' already struggling to pay their bills.

Now Germany has announced that Ukrainian refugees will be awarded the same out of work payments that Germans (who pay into the system for years before building up any entitlement) are offered. This could turn into a huge draw for freeloading Ukrainians- it won't be long before patience starts to run out in many EU countries.

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I can only hope that the EU perpetuate this kind of stupidity because it means less money available for their defense purchases and weakens NATO. LOL god they re so stupid.
 

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1. We have mobilized and a new army is being prepared, almost equal in number to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The very first blow is always more difficult and it is reflected.
I want to remind you that the Soviet Union lost much more territory in 2 months. But later go liberation
2. Yes, Mariupol is under blockade. But already the enemy is forced to withdraw part of his troops and transfer them to the north, which can turn into a counterattack.
Wow! Every time I think you couldn't possibly say something more stupid than your previous posts, you prove me wrong. Comparing operation Barbarossa and the rest of the Russian/German war to this is hilarious. Also since the Azov battalion is nearly out of ammo, I was wondering if they are going to do a bayonet charge. Who knows, it could work. If I were a Russian soldier I might be laughing so hard at the sight of that, that I might die from a heart attack.
 
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Johnson calls Russian takeover of Ukraine a ‘realistic possibility’

from ukraine beating the russians to losing the whole country within one week ??
 

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1. We have mobilized and a new army is being prepared, almost equal in number to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The very first blow is always more difficult and it is reflected.
I want to remind you that the Soviet Union lost much more territory in 2 months. But later go liberation
2. Yes, Mariupol is under blockade. But already the enemy is forced to withdraw part of his troops and transfer them to the north, which can turn into a counterattack.

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Fake news spread by Ukranian ambassador to Japan -

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Ukraine’s ambassador to Japan to speak at JNU online event, shares misinformation about India’s permission to aid-carrying plane

Spokesperson of the Ministry of External Affairs Arindam Bagchi had said in a regular media briefing on April 21, "We had received a request from Japan for permission to land in Mumbai to pick up humanitarian goods for Ukraine & its neighbouring countries from India. We have given the approval to pick supplies by using commercial aircraft."

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What truth is this guy going to tell? Like the Khost of Kyiv?
I seriously refuse to believe any amount of propaganda coming from the west regarding the war . Due to the internet blackout of russian news platforms we are being fed with biased information which does not reflect the ground reality of the situation . Why aren't they telling the world that russia is already on the verge of cutting off ukraine's access to the black sea . Most of their coast is under russian control now . Kiev was just a diversion tactic to stretch the Ukrainian military on multiple fronts . Because of the assault on Kiev the ukranians had to deploy most of their armed forces in the north where russia didn't really mean to capture anything . The ukrainians got fooled by the russians and now a considerably lighter formation of troops is left to defend the south while most of their formations were sent up north .
 
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US, Not Russia, Is And Will Be India's Reliable Partner Post Ukrainian War: State Dept Counsellor
 

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