Pakistan inducts advanced Chinese air defence system

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Indian counterpart to this would be the army specific Barak-8. A far superior counterpart to be precise.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...wants-parrikar-as-cm/articleshow/57604033.cms

 

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@Zarvan , @Neo , looks like 3 batteries were ordered. Can you please confirm? (contract signed in 2013?)
If it is indeed 3 batteries, is it safe to assume that these will be installed at 3 key airfields?
Also, AFAIK, this is the only system capable of Cruise missile interception that Pakistan has. Are there any other systems that can do the same?

Apart from the LY-80, the only other SAM that I know Pakistan operates is FM-90. FM-90 could be likened to a SR-SAM. Not sure if it can lock-on after launch. If it does, then it even qualifies as a Quick Reaction SAM.
Any number on how many FM-90 SAMs are inducted/planned?

If we assume that somewhere in the future, PRC will also sell HQ-9 to Pakistan, we could be looking at a very serious layered air defence system in Pakistan. I have read somewhere (perhaps on this very forum) that in the history of Indo-Pak wars, both sides have lost more aircraft to ground fire, rather than air-air combat. With the recent upswing in Air Defence upgradation on both sides of the border, both air forces will have to review SEAD operations strategy.

An inferior Cheap ass copy of BUK M3
A SARH with inertial mid course guidance .

BUK-M3: Range: 70 km , Altitude: 25km , Target Speed: 3000 m/sec , Number of Similtanous target track/guide missile : 36

Cheap Chinese copy

Its interceptor is another reverse engineered

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It looks like it is derived from the Buk-M1, not the M-3. But cheap-ass or not, it is a threat. And a formidable one (considering that it represents a quantum leap in Pak air defence capability).

Range (BUK Copy) is 30 - 50 ~ km depending on the missile and capable of destroying low flying targets including Cruise Missiles and Air crafts. Interception altitude is 18 ~ km


India has nothing comparable in the inventory except Spyder operated by IAF

Pakis deployed their MR-SAM before we did. Barak-8 is good (better) but I hate that the air force version of the missile is delayed 'cause right now, there is a gaping hole in our defences.

 

[Tarun Kumar]

Will it be able to stop Brahmos. I doubt it.

 

[Bornubus]

Yeah my bad. I got it confused it with LY-60 (PL-10). BUK is a good system so in all likelihood Chinis have made a decent enough system.

But agreed on the test results part.

Pakis deployed their MR-SAM before we did. Barak-8 is good (better) but I hate that the air force version of the missile is delayed 'cause right now, there is a gaping hole in our defences.

It will Track it.

http://www.iai.co.il/2013/36568-26483-en/ELTA - Systems by Product Lines.aspx

And this will destroy it from standoff distance. Both are in active service.

http://www.iai.co.il/2013/36694-46079-EN/Business_Areas_Land.aspx

 

[sthf]

@Adioz Our MRSAM is in service as well. Difference is that PA is taking the responsibility of defending the air-space while it's IAF's job in India till IA gets its own Barak-8.

 

[Neo]

@Zarvan , @Neo , looks like 3 batteries were ordered. Can you please confirm? (contract signed in 2013?)
If it is indeed 3 batteries, is it safe to assume that these will be installed at 3 key airfields?

Its 6-9 batteries, the initial order was placed in 2013. What we have here is a follow up and most probably includes the upgraded HQ-16B with extended range.
ISPR had yet to confirm the numbers.

http://quwa.org/2016/08/17/pakistans-hq-16-surface-air-missile-plans/

 

[Tarun Kumar]

What is clear is that Lizard will continue its tricks. We should frankly not allow lizards to earn money off India. Boycott all lizard goods

 

[porky_kicker]

come on guys why get all worked up ?

every country will do its best to out smart its rival

but one important factor which all of us disregards is how strong and self independent is a nations civilian industrial complex and its protege the military industrial complex which will have a final say in the outcome between a conflict between 2 nations.

technology is always a work in progress , weapons systems or counters to weapon systems r made keeping in mind present and future threat perceptions.

again a weapon system cannot be viewed in isolation , as every weapon system has a kill chain associated with it.

all it requires is to identify the most vulnerable points and hit them to put it out of action. nor does it requires it to be a hard kill , infact a soft kill will also do the job perfectly.

why do u think india has wasted billions of dollars in EW systems . even the chinese were impressed enough to make an attempt to steal it.

again indian EW systems (air & land based) r meant to operate over a vast EM spectrum and identify , locate , suppress , spoof etc hostile emissions .AKA dominate and own the enemies entire EM spectrum.

infact they can effectively render electronic fuzes / electronic components of missiles , artillery rockets useless in their area of operation.

also do take a look at the number of stand off munitions india is developing ,

latest weapon i heard is of SANT which based on HELINA , good luck trying to detect, forget trying to hit a LCH flying in at tree top levels en route to kill HQ-16, as any aircraft flying below the radar envelope will not be detected (unless they back it up with low level radar).

again even flying in a terrain hugging mode will induce large amounts of ground clutter which a MR SAM optimized radar will have a tough time coping with, the radar operator will be pressing the reset button again and again. :biggrin2:

HQ-16 (LY-80) Air Defence Missile System has a venerability among others that its associated target guidance / illumination radar can be spoofed by showing up numerous false electronic targets leading to launching of missiles at imaginary targets,

so all in all it depends on the technical capability of the country in concern,india has all the necessay tech. building blocks all it needs is the end user to frame requirements and for the govt to allocate funds .

i dont want to right an essay here but there r many ways to defeat such or even better sams .

for those u want immediate solution plz send in a sucide drone or maybe a brahmos to take out the guidance radar :biggrin2:

 

[charlie]

it's equivalent to Akash system but with better range, storage and mobility. but the concept is same. it can't be compared to barak 8 as both system are quite different.

 

[Bornubus]

Its 6-9 batteries, the initial order was placed in 2013. What we have here is a follow up and most probably includes the upgraded HQ-16B with extended range.
ISPR had yet to confirm the numbers.

http://quwa.org/2016/08/17/pakistans-hq-16-surface-air-missile-plans/

Quwa is owned by a curcumcised Paki living abroad and hiding behind his Think tank "organisation" tag.

It's not a credible source on Indian forums but only for Paki Fanboys of Paki Forum.

 

[porky_kicker]

Quwa is owned by a curcumcised Paki living abroad and hiding behind his Think tank "organisation" tag.

It's not a credible source on Indian forums but only for Paki Fanboys of Paki Forum.

the comment section is shiit , i accept that.

but for a paki , his articles r low on jingoism and high air.

he is one paki who i have yet to see foul mouth tejas

he mostly takes a neutral view on indian defence products etc, which is more than one can ask for in a paki

personally i would rate him above the cabal of backstabbing presstitude indian defence writers/analysts

 

[Krusty]

For every hard work technology development we make in Missiles pakistan will easily counter us back by its Bade Bhai Chinni s Gifts .. Its now much more clear China will use pakistan as a full frontal base for every counter india move ..

I just read an article today where China says India should (ah yes china sharing its infinite wisdom with other countries as usual) not fall in the trap of usa and Japan to contain contain china. I think along with 'copy' we have project China as a synonym of 'hypocrisy'.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Indian counterpart to this would be the army specific Barak-8. A far superior counterpart to be precise.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...wants-parrikar-as-cm/articleshow/57604033.cms

Both missiles have different roles, a medium and long range missile system like Barak vs a short range system like Buk Missile, HQ-7, SPYDER or Akash.

 

[Willy2]

why do u think india has wasted billions of dollars in EW systems . even the chinese were impressed enough to make an attempt to steal it.

Any link or proof sir ???
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[sthf]

Both missiles have different roles, a medium and long range missile system like Barak vs a short range system like Buk Missile, HQ-7, SPYDER or Akash.

Both are medium range mate. Army variant is poised to have 50-70km range, BUK has 40+.

 

[scatterStorm]

Specifications of HQ-16(LY-80) Air Defence Missile System

Dimensions:

Diameter 400 mm
Length 5.6 m,
Wingspan 860 mm

Weights: Warhead 70 kg
Weight 690 kg

Performance:

Max Range 60km
Min Range 3km
Target's Max Altitude 25,000 m
Target's Max Speed Mach 3

Very likely to be made junk with an anti radiation missile from a service ceiling of 13km as a standoff AGM.

 

[scatterStorm]

@Bornubus It's a ground launched PL-10. Good enough for sub sonic cruise missiles not so much for contemporary fighters with effective counter-measures.

BUK on the other hand is a bona fide SAM & far more capable.

Probably to be used to provide AD cover to Paki armour formations.

It will act as second layer of defence, for the inner hot zone to protect it's X band radar assets. They are now also pushing to invest in a multilayer defence for A2/AD warfare. IMO they are smart, but not that smart, the extended range of Brahmos will eventually be fired form "outer zone" of A2/AD, around 450 Nm. The missile would take 5-7min to attack the batteries.

 

[sayareakd]

Will it be able to stop Brahmos. I doubt it.

Its same as Akash missile with vertical launch, its celling is 18 kms and range is about 25 kms.

Pak is saying its extended range, but no evidence to that.

So they havr inducted something in mid range, which, we have for years. Good luck Pak.

 

[3deffect]

For every hard work technology development we make in Missiles pakistan will easily counter us back by its Bade Bhai Chinni s Gifts .. Its now much more clear China will use pakistan as a full frontal base for every counter india move ..

china is only doing what owner do with slaves...when war happened china send his slaves first for die asusual

 

[scatterStorm]

For every hard work technology development we make in Missiles pakistan will easily counter us back by its Bade Bhai Chinni s Gifts .. Its now much more clear China will use pakistan as a full frontal base for every counter india move ..

It's natural to them, "when push comes to shove, they will not wait to put down there pant's on fire". Now there general threatened once again with a nuclear retaliation if we stop Indus water reaching there.