Nirbhay Cruise Missile Development

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Very unstealthy 80's looking design, i sure hope this is not the actual missile it kinda reminds me of such old heavyweights as the



Soviet M-141


AGM-86 from the U.S.A
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First Test Of Nirbhat Cruise Missile Looms

In contrast to how India promoted its Agni-V ballistic missile, New Delhi is unlikely to draw a lot of international attention to upcoming testing of the Nirbhay cruise missile, even as it holds far more significance for the nation's weapons program than is widely appreciated.

In August, the country is scheduled to conduct the first test of its little known Nirbhay ("fearless"), a subsonic weapon with a maximum range of 1,000 km (620 mi.). Designated "secret," the weapon's development has remained concealed since its existence was revealed in 2006.

Like the Agni-V, the Nirbhay will be tested from India's missile range over the Bay of Bengal. The missile has two stages, is understood to be powered by a Russian-built NPO Saturn engine, will cruise at Mach 0.7 and is being developed to demonstrate loitering capabilities. Sources at the Hyderabad-based Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL), which built the missile prototype, say the weapon is ready for its first flight.

ASL Director V.G. Sekaran recently said the Nirbhay was slated for a July-August debut. While the agency has refused to comment on the Nirbhay's capabilities, there remains some ambiguity about whether the "Nirbhay" name pertains only to the primary weapon—the subsonic cruise missile—or to a family, including a yet-unnamed, long-range, scramjet-powered supersonic cruise missile.

The ambiguity is an inevitable part of the project's secret status. The agency has worked with intrigue before; last July, it tested the Prahaar quick-reaction, surface-to-surface missile after first revealing the existence of the system barely two weeks before.

The Indian armed forces are watching the Nirbhay with perhaps greater focus than they did the Agni. While the country's weapons program has matured in the ballistic missile arena, it has little or nothing to show in cruise missiles. In the Indo-Russian BrahMos, Russia still builds critical technologies such as the engine and seeker, while India contributes the inertial navigation and fire control systems. On the Nirbhay, while Russia is understood to have contributed the engine, sources say it will be replaced with an Indian turbojet or tubofan in a later phase.

"In many ways, the Nirbhay is a more crucial weapon system than the Agni family," says an officer with one of the Indian army's BrahMos missile regiments. "The lack of a long-range cruise missile has long been felt by the armed forces. The BrahMos is an excellent border weapon, but we need a terrain-hugging missile with a range of 750-1,000 kilometers for more potent deterrent value. That's why we're waiting for the Nirbhay more than we've perhaps waited for anything in the last 20 years." The BrahMos supersonic cruise missile has a stated range of 290 km.


In 2007, India's Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) revealed that the Nirbhay would be capable of delivering 24 different warhead types. DRDO sources say that while the engine is Russian, the rest of Nirbhay is fully indigenous, including sensors, guidance and flight-control systems. In 2008, reports suggested the Nirbhay was a loose derivative of the indigenous Lakshya target drone, which is operational with the armed forces. A mockup of the Nirbhay was to have been displayed at Aero India in February 2011, but was pulled at the last moment after a change of heart at DRDO.

A former rear admiral from the Indian navy's gunnery says, "The Nirbhay is rightly a hushed-up program. It shouldn't draw too much attention until it has begun testing in earnest. Three years ago, there was a lot of confidence in the program and scientists were confident they could deliver such an ambitious weapon. It is a clean break from anything India has developed before."

The Nirbhay has never been seen or photographed, and India wants to keep it that way until the actual debut test. DRDO sources say the missile is being built to be used from land, sea and air. The Center for Military Airworthiness and Certification has revealed that it has been asked to integrate the Nirbhay to an Indian air force Sukhoi Su-30 MKI airframe, while the land variant's mobile launcher was recently revealed to be an Indian-built Tata Prahaar vehicle unveiled at New Delhi's DefExpo trade event in March.

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while Russia is understood to have contributed the engine, sources say it will be replaced with an Indian turbojet or tubofan in a later phase.
If Russian engine is going to power the Nirbhay it is:
- either Nirbhay is a sub 300 km missile
- or Maa Behen of MCTR treaty
- or India still have to master in mini turbo jet/fan technology and with a Russian engine it will only serve as an interim technology demonstrator till DRDO manage to build one, but still I doubt it will be 300 km plus as the treaty clearly defines prohibition of any such technology which will help in a nations cause to build up such technologies.

What I believe is its resemblance with Lakshya PTA will be its turbojet engine technology but enough delay has already occurred and wonder when it will get operational, long range super sonic cruise missile concept is interesting though love to see if it is the missile.

OT question what are the prospects of any nation developing a super cruise (without after burner concept) missile :hmm: ?
 

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MTCR does not restrict range if only engines are sold.
National export licensing measures on these technologies make the task of countries seeking to achieve capability to acquire and produce unmanned means of WMD delivery much more difficult. As a result, many countries, including all MTCR partners, have chosen voluntarily to introduce export licensing measures on rocket and other unmanned air vehicle delivery systems or related equipment, material and technology.
Missile Technology Control Regime

The attempt will be termed as assistance to realise and acquired advance capabilities to master unmanned delivery technologies,which would be prohibited beyond a certain range and payload capacity.
 
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Missile Technology Control Regime

The attempt will be termed as assistance to realise and acquired advance capabilities to master unmanned delivery technologies,which would be prohibited beyond a certain range and payload capacity.
GSLV wouldn't be flying with Russian Cryogenic engines if that was the case.

ToT for such technology is forbidden by MTCR. Transferring an X number of engines cause no problems.

Americans purchased a lot of Russian engines for their own rocket programs too.
 

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GSLV wouldn't be flying with Russian Cryogenic engines if that was the case.

ToT for such technology is forbidden by MTCR. Transferring an X number of engines cause no problems.

Americans purchased a lot of Russian engines for their own rocket programs too.
Both supply of engines and technological assistance on Russian origin Cryogenic engine had been stopped after US raised the voice of MTCR concern, Russia have joined MTCR on 1995 and purchase had been made prior to that, more over criticism regarding those treaties and arrangement are controversial in nature, the elite group enjoys exclusive leverage, Ballistic missiles and nukes for UK, Military technology and engineering for Canada and the like, they are the signatories and they keep in mind that no other nations get a free hand on it, China is a non signatory but still cannot openly proliferate the technology.
 

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Another factor I believe is that India is seeking entry for MTCR is to enjoy the leverage the member nations have.
 

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I am waiting for this missile, we need this in thousands, only then we will be truly "Nirbhay".
 

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Both supply of engines and technological assistance on Russian origin Cryogenic engine had been stopped after US raised the voice of MTCR concern, Russia have joined MTCR on 1995 and purchase had been made prior to that, more over criticism regarding those treaties and arrangement are controversial in nature, the elite group enjoys exclusive leverage, Ballistic missiles and nukes for UK, Military technology and engineering for Canada and the like, they are the signatories and they keep in mind that no other nations get a free hand on it, China is a non signatory but still cannot openly proliferate the technology.
The contract for ToT of Cryogenic engines was quashed by the US in 1992, well before Russia joined MTCR. Instead India could only procure the engines and Russia termed that deal as legal even with MTCR guidelines. US was crying hoarse right after Agni I was test fired.

India can purchase more cryogenic engines even today without affecting MTCR. The only reason why we don't have more orders for engines is because of hopes that our own engine will work. New models of GSLV have been modified to handle the Indian engine and Russian engines cannot fit in it. We will need older designs of GSLV to use Russian engines. The Russian engines were mostly used for civilian use. ISRO attempted to launch a military satellite on Indian engines and that failed.

Btw, the reason why ISRO decided to go for Russian engines is because the American General Dynamics and French Arianspace were outbid by the Russian Glavkosmos. Had the others won, nothing much would have happened. So, the sale of such an engine was authorized. But ToT is not.

Nirbhay's engine is a two stage design. One is a solid rocket motor and the other is a turbofan. While solid rocket motors may see MTCR restrictions the Turbofan will most probably not see any restrictions. I am guessing we are going for a Russian turbofan like the Saturn 36MT before we develop our own version. We have first class solid motor designs. We don't need to import that.
 

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The contract for ToT of Cryogenic engines was quashed by the US in 1992, well before Russia joined MTCR. Instead India could only procure the engines and Russia termed that deal as legal even with MTCR guidelines. US was crying hoarse right after Agni I was test fired.

India can purchase more cryogenic engines even today without affecting MTCR. The only reason why we don't have more orders for engines is because of hopes that our own engine will work. New models of GSLV have been modified to handle the Indian engine and Russian engines cannot fit in it. We will need older designs of GSLV to use Russian engines. The Russian engines were mostly used for civilian use. ISRO attempted to launch a military satellite on Indian engines and that failed.

Btw, the reason why ISRO decided to go for Russian engines is because the American General Dynamics and French Arianspace were outbid by the Russian Glavkosmos. Had the others won, nothing much would have happened. So, the sale of such an engine was authorized. But ToT is not.

Nirbhay's engine is a two stage design. One is a solid rocket motor and the other is a turbofan. While solid rocket motors may see MTCR restrictions the Turbofan will most probably not see any restrictions. I am guessing we are going for a Russian turbofan like the Saturn 36MT before we develop our own version. We have first class solid motor designs. We don't need to import that.
Such claims if any are baseless and fanboyish reports, the last engine India received from Russia was before 1995 , probable during 1993.

With the settlement of dispute between US and Russia, Russia entered as a MTCR member nation.

Interestingly MTCR is said to be voluntary but in fact it is an American compulsion.

For France 1989
France proposes to sell India cryogenic engine technology, saying that such a sale is not against MTCR regulations. The United States protests the offer as a violation of the MTCR agreement and threatens France with economic sanctions.
For Russia 1992
The United States threatens Russia and India with sanctions if Moscow follows through on a deal to sell cryogenic rocket engines to New Delhi. U.S. officials claim the contract violates MTCR guidelines, which Russia has agreed to enforce. Russian and Indian officials deny violation of the regime, claiming the engines cannot be used for military purposes. ISRO chairman, Dr.U. R. Rao criticizes the MTCR calling the guidelines arbitrary and ill-defined and points out that MTCR controls on
Eventually Russia signed MTCR in 1995.

Consequent of engine purchase 1992
The U.S. sanctions the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) and Russia's Glavkosmos for two years on the grounds that ISRO's contract to purchase Russian cryogenic rocket technology violates MTCR guidelines. According to the U.S. Department of State, "the MTCR partners all have concluded that the Glavkosmos-ISRO deal is inconsistent with the MTCR Guidelines."
Russian and U.S. State Department delegations meet to discuss U.S. claims that the Glavkosmos/ISRO cryogenic deal violates the MTCR. The
delegations are led by Sergei Tschuvakhin and Robert Einhorn respectively. The meeting fails to yield a resolution on the issue. The United States notes that it is considering sanctions on other Russian entities associated with the transaction, including the "Salyut" design office. The two sides do settle U.S. petitions for the creation of a "black list" of nations that will be barred from all missile technology transfers. The two parties also agree not to
export missile technology contributing to delivery weapons of mass destruction.
1993
CIA Director James Woolsey testifies at a Senate hearing that both Russia and Ukraine are displaying "a growing willingness to sell missile technology prohibited by the Missile Technology Control Regime." Citing the cryogenic engine deal with India and Russia's attempts to advertise a derivative of an SS 23 missile as a civilian rocket, Woolsey also suggests that Russia's export controls are inconsistent with MTCR guidelines.
The U.S. State Department determines that Moscow-based KB Salyut is associated directly with the contract to sell cryogenic engines to India, while other companies are also associated indirectly with the deal. As a result, the United States decides to impose sanctions on Russian producers of space technologies for violating the MTCR. The sanctions are waived until July 15 in order to allow the U.S. and Russian governments to make a final effort to resolve their differences over the cryogenic deal with India.
Russia commits itself to MTCR adherence. The pledge is part of a compromise between the United States and Russia that settles the dispute over Russian sales of cryogenic technology to India. In return for not transferring manufacturing technology, greater U.S.- Russian space cooperation is expected.
Russia will supply India, only with completed engines. Russian officials indicated that they require until 11/1/93 to adjust their export controls to reflect regime mandates.
eventually
Indian Prime Minister Rao tells parliament that the deal to sell rocket technology to Russia is not dead and that India will not give up its right to acquire missile and space technology. Indian officials are reportedly considering whether the country should pursue an indigenous cryogenic rocket engine.
http://cns.miis.edu/npr/pdfs/ozga12.pdf
 

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guys dont worry, their are ways and means to twist laws, including international laws, that is what we lawyers are for. Good example is nuke sub lease.
 

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TRISHUL: Nirbhay UAV Detailed

Nirbhay UAV Detailed


Under a fast-track project that forms an integral part of India's efforts to develop a credible cruise missile defence system, the Defence Research & Development Organisation's (DRDO) ADE and ASL laboratories are co-developing an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) called Nirbhay (fearless) that will be both air-launched and ship-launched. Believed to have been launched in late 2005, the project calls for the UAV to be developed as both a high-speed target drone capable of simulating the flight profiles of land-attack/anti-ship cruise missiles like China's DH-10A and Pakistan's Babur, as well as sea-skimming anti-ship missiles like the A/RGM-84A Harpoon and C-802A, both of which are operational with the Pakistan Navy. In addition, a ground-launched conventional takeoff and landing (CTOL) variant of the Nirbhay is also envisaged—this being a high-speed, medium-altitude vehicle equipped with a 130kg payload for standoff, theatre-level reconnaissance—in response to a specific air staff requirement of the Indian Air Force (IAF).

To be powered by a NPO Saturn-supplied 36MT turbofan rated at 400kg thrust, the Nirbhay's target drone variant will be capable of cruising at a speed of Mach 0.92 at medium altitudes (10,000 feet) and 1,100kph at sea level, have a flight endurance of two hours, will sea-skim at 10 metres above sea level, will be able to pull up to 6.5 G, be equipped with a 130kg payload (of up to 24 different types such as towed radar/infra-red reflector/augmentation devices, EW jammers and hit-scorer avionics), and will have a digital flight management system that will enable the drone to undertake various flight manoeuvres like snaking, pop-up and a 40-degree dive. The ship-launched variant of Nirbhay will be equipped with twin solid-propellant boosters that will be ejected once the drone is airborne, while for the IAF, it will be configured for launch from an IL-76MD transport aircraft. For recovery purposes, both variants of the drone will be equipped with parachutes and inflatable air-bags. The drone will have a maximum takeoff weight of 650kg (minus the twin boosters), overall length of 5.5 metres, wingspan of 2.5 metres, and a fuselage diameter of 0.40 metres. The Nirbhay's theatre reconnaissance CTOL-UAV variant for the IAF will be equipped with an X-band inverse synthetic aperture radar (most likely the EL/M-20600 from ELTA Systems of Israel), a wideband two-way data link, and a ring laser gyro-based inertial navigation system coupled to a GPS receiver. Maiden flight of the drone's first prototype is scheduled for early 2009, while its CTOL-UAV variant is expected to fly later the same year. Present plans call for procuring up to 80 drones and 30 UAVs. Series production of the Nirbhay will be undertaken by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd, while the 36MT turbofans will be procured off-the-shelf from NPO Saturn. In October 2006, NPO Saturn had inked a US$100 million contract with the DRDO under which the latter will deliver, starting this December, a total of 200 36MT turbofans through to 2010.--Prasun K. Sengupta

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TRISHUL: Nirbhay UAV Detailed

Nirbhay UAV Detailed


Under a fast-track project that forms an integral part of India's efforts to develop a credible cruise missile defence system, the Defence Research & Development Organisation's (DRDO) ADE and ASL laboratories are co-developing an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) called Nirbhay (fearless) that will be both air-launched and ship-launched. Believed to have been launched in late 2005, the project calls for the UAV to be developed as both a high-speed target drone capable of simulating the flight profiles of land-attack/anti-ship cruise missiles like China's DH-10A and Pakistan's Babur, as well as sea-skimming anti-ship missiles like the A/RGM-84A Harpoon and C-802A, both of which are operational with the Pakistan Navy. In addition, a ground-launched conventional takeoff and landing (CTOL) variant of the Nirbhay is also envisaged—this being a high-speed, medium-altitude vehicle equipped with a 130kg payload for standoff, theatre-level reconnaissance—in response to a specific air staff requirement of the Indian Air Force (IAF).

To be powered by a NPO Saturn-supplied 36MT turbofan rated at 400kg thrust, the Nirbhay's target drone variant will be capable of cruising at a speed of Mach 0.92 at medium altitudes (10,000 feet) and 1,100kph at sea level, have a flight endurance of two hours, will sea-skim at 10 metres above sea level, will be able to pull up to 6.5 G, be equipped with a 130kg payload (of up to 24 different types such as towed radar/infra-red reflector/augmentation devices, EW jammers and hit-scorer avionics), and will have a digital flight management system that will enable the drone to undertake various flight manoeuvres like snaking, pop-up and a 40-degree dive. The ship-launched variant of Nirbhay will be equipped with twin solid-propellant boosters that will be ejected once the drone is airborne, while for the IAF, it will be configured for launch from an IL-76MD transport aircraft. For recovery purposes, both variants of the drone will be equipped with parachutes and inflatable air-bags. The drone will have a maximum takeoff weight of 650kg (minus the twin boosters), overall length of 5.5 metres, wingspan of 2.5 metres, and a fuselage diameter of 0.40 metres. The Nirbhay's theatre reconnaissance CTOL-UAV variant for the IAF will be equipped with an X-band inverse synthetic aperture radar (most likely the EL/M-20600 from ELTA Systems of Israel), a wideband two-way data link, and a ring laser gyro-based inertial navigation system coupled to a GPS receiver. Maiden flight of the drone's first prototype is scheduled for early 2009, while its CTOL-UAV variant is expected to fly later the same year. Present plans call for procuring up to 80 drones and 30 UAVs. Series production of the Nirbhay will be undertaken by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd, while the 36MT turbofans will be procured off-the-shelf from NPO Saturn. In October 2006, NPO Saturn had inked a US$100 million contract with the DRDO under which the latter will deliver, starting this December, a total of 200 36MT turbofans through to 2010.--Prasun K. Sengupta


Israeli collaboration on Nirbhay cruise missile and UAV


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http://uniurs.com/news/2010/06/25/indias-mini-gas-turbine-engine-for-uavucav-programme-updated/

India's Mini Gas Turbine Engine For UAV/UCAV Programme [Updated]



Here it is -- India's indigenous minaturised gas turbine technology demonstrator for UAVs/UCAVs. The Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) -- this photo is from a presentation they made not long ago -- has according to the presentation completed "preliminary design, configuration and analysis" of the engine, under development ostensibly to power AURA, India's stealth UCAV concept, and the Nirbhay cruise missile currently under development by the Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL). Will update this post with specifications and more photographs in a few days.
 

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LETHALFORCE good find but I have my reservation on terming Sengupta as a reliable source. :sad:
 

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Popeye Turbo - Israel Special Weapons

Popeye Turbo



In May 2000, Israel is reported to have secretly carried out its first test launches from two German-built Dolphin-class submarines of cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads. The missiles launched from vessels off Sri Lanka in the Indian Ocean are said to have hit a target at a range of about 1,500 kilometers [about 930 statute miles]. Israel is reported to possess a 200kg nuclear warhead, containing 6kg of plutonium, that could be mounted on cruise missiles.

Israel has reportedly developed an air-launched cruise missile that could be operational by 2002, called the Popeye Turbo. The Popeye Turbo, with a range that is variously reported at between 200 km and 350 km, would appear to represent a turbo-jet powered cruise missile that may incorporate avionics and other components developed for the Popeye family of missiles. The AGM-142 HAVE NAP is a variant of the Israeli Air Force "Popeye" missile, which uses a solid propellant rocket motor. The Popeye II, also known as the Have Lite, is a smaller missile with more advanced technology. Designed for deployment on fighter aircraft, Popeye II has a range of 150 kilometers.

The Popeye Turbo missile is probably similar to if not identical with the Israeli submarine-launced cruise missile carried on the Dolphin-class submarines. The baseline Popeye missile with a range of 45 miles has a diameter of 21 inches, and is nearly 16 feet long. For comparison, the American MK-48 heavy torpedo is 21 inches in diameter, and 19 feet long, while the BGM-109 Tomahawk SLCM is 20.4 inches in diameter and 20.5 feet long [including the booster motor], and the Russian SS-N-21 SLCM is similar in configuration and dimensions to the American Tomahawk.

The reported range of 1,500 km for the SLCM tested in May 2000 is several times greater than the previously reported range for the Popeye Turbo. However, the Popeye Turbo is a poorly attested missile, and the open literature provides little information on this system. Indeed, because of the small size of the vehicle and the limited testing program to date, it is entirely possible that even the US intelligence community has only limited insight into the capabilities of this system. There is no particular reason to doubt that Israel could develop a variant of the Popeye Turbo with a range of 1,500 km, simply by lengthening the fuel tank associated with a 300-350 km variant reported by US intelligence. At present it is not possible to determine whether the US intelligence has under-estimated the range of this missile, or whether news reports have over-estimated the missile's range. The longer range reported in June 2000 is certainly consistent with Israeli targetting requirements.

It is generally agreed that these submarines are outfitted with six 533-millimeter torpedo tubes suitable for the 21-inch torpedoes that are normally used on most submarines, including those of the United States. Some reports suggest that the submarines have a total of ten torpedo tubes -- six 533-millimeter and four 650-millimeter. Uniquely, the Soviet navy deployed the Type 65 heavy-weight torpedo using a 650-millimeter tube. The four larger 25.5 inch diameter torpedo tubes could be used to launch a long-range nuclear-capable submarine-launched cruise missile (SLCM).
 

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LETHALFORCE good find but I have my reservation on terming Sengupta as a reliable source. :sad:
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Livefist: Nirbhay Angst!

Nirbhay Angst!


The overwhelming interest in the Nirbhay was expected. :) The calls/texts/comments I got expressing everything from outrage to ridicule to befuddlement and dismay were very entertaining. I'd just like to reassure everyone -- Like I said in the post, I'm one of the people who hopes the Nirbhay looks nothing like the artistic impressions that I had made. If it does, it'll be one of the clunkiest, quaintest weapons we've ever built. It was only a bit of guesswork based on what we know so far. I truly hope what we dont know about the Nirbhay dictates all its philosophies. And that's why the post title is question. We know literally nothing meaningful about how the weapon looks. But hopefully we'll know more soon. I do know for a fact that the post did its rounds in DRDO labs -- now either the folks there laughed, or they scratched their chins and said hmmm. Thanks to a lot of ADE people who chose to keep their comments obscure -- I appreciate your inputs :D

More fundamentally, is the Nirbhay one system or many? Is the Nirbhay primarily a cruise vehicle or a high-speed target system -- with a solid-fuelled rocket stage and a turbofan. Information on the latter suggests a system that will be deployed from ships and heavy transport aircraft using an Israeli sensor/seeker. Remember there are two other stand-off cruise weapons that don't have a name -- the Indo-Israeli air-delivered munition (ADM) for nuclear strike and the long range supersonic cruise missile, revealed first here on Livefist. Could the Nirbhay pertain to more than one weapon system? A series of cruise missiles? We don't know that yet either.
 

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Such claims if any are baseless and fanboyish reports, the last engine India received from Russia was before 1995 , probable during 1993.

1993
Russia commits itself to MTCR adherence. The pledge is part of a compromise between the United States and Russia that settles the dispute over Russian sales of cryogenic technology to India. In return for not transferring manufacturing technology, greater U.S.- Russian space cooperation is expected.
Russia will supply India, only with completed engines. Russian officials indicated that they require until 11/1/93 to adjust their export controls to reflect regime mandates.
This is what I am saying. We can buy the engines, but we cannot buy ToT.

Anyway the first deal was for 2 engines and ToT.

Later the deal removed ToT and 5 additional engines were added. When this change happened, I don't know.
 

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This is what I am saying. We can buy the engines, but we cannot buy ToT.

Anyway the first deal was for 2 engines and ToT.

Later the deal removed ToT and 5 additional engines were added. When this change happened, I don't know.
You missed the point.
The sanctions are waived until July 15 in order to allow the U.S. and Russian governments to make a final effort to resolve their differences over the cryogenic deal with India.
Russia commits itself to MTCR adherence. The pledge is part of a compromise between the United States and Russia that settles the dispute over Russian sales of cryogenic technology to India. In return for not transferring manufacturing technology, greater U.S.- Russian space cooperation is expected.
Russia will supply India, only with completed engines. Russian officials indicated that they require until 11/1/93 to adjust their export controls to reflect regime mandates.
Their was a compromise between US and Russia to sort out differences before Russia joining MTCR, US extended waiver till July Russia pledged to extend it till November of 1993. Russia roughly tried to fulfill her commitment in Indian Space research before signing the MTCR treaty. No commitment,no clause to supply cryogenic engine their after.
 

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