Next Generation Missile Vessel

[binayak95]

Ya'll Nibbiars that's what telling them, our ships have been made with the soviet philosophy of future upgradations with enough space to add weapons systems.

That aint Soviet at all. Its Indian jugaad.

The first blue water missile ships in Indian service (in ASIAN service) were British built ASW frigates with fantastic sea keeping hulls mated with the entire fire control and armament of the old OSA M class missile boats.

Both the Soviets and the Brits thought it impossible.

IN: hold my chai. (or more appropriately, Jack Daniels)

 

[binayak95]

sir ji...british already increse their VLS number (72 VLS with sea septer missile) in their type 45 daring class. it hv same displacement like vishakhapatnam class. even if we cant add VLS in our destroyer, why cant we increase missile number by fitting surface launchers in empty space?? yes it will decrease its stealth, but with 600-800 km range brahmos or barak 8 missile addition, we dont need too stealthy destroyer. coz enemy ships radar can only detect our ships maximum 400-450 km range.

Just because a ship has the same design as another doesnt make them equal in their capabilities. Every navy designs their ships as per their specific requirements. the Type45 is a fucking nightmare to operate because of their stupid IEP. It cannot operate in warm waters and certainly CANNOT operate in IOR

 

[vin bharat mahan]

Just because a ship has the same design as another doesnt make them equal in their capabilities. Every navy designs their ships as per their specific requirements. the Type45 is a fucking nightmare to operate because of their stupid IEP. It cannot operate in warm waters and certainly CANNOT operate in IOR

my point is, if daring class increase their VLS number, why cant we increase our VLS number. there r clearly empty space in our destroyer for additional 16-32 missiles.

 

[jai jaganath]

sir ji...british already increse their VLS number (72 VLS with sea septer missile) in their type 45 daring class. it hv same displacement like vishakhapatnam class. even if we cant add VLS in our destroyer, why cant we increase missile number by fitting surface launchers in empty space?? yes it will decrease its stealth, but with 600-800 km range brahmos or barak 8 missile addition, we dont need too stealthy destroyer. coz enemy ships radar can only detect our ships maximum 400-450 km range.

Tonnage similar doesn't mean design similarity
Both are universe apart in terns of design and interior space
Jo dikhta hai woh under hota nahi

 

[jai jaganath]

Cant speak about the Nilgiri class, have no idea about the ship's interiors. The Kolkata/Vishakapatnams, theres enough space for large VLS farms if you think about it.

The existing cells will be removed and then replaced (with their launch and magazine)

If they have additional space then why to remove existing business cells and replace again along with newer ones
Just add newer ones in the desired place right

 

[Fatalis]

sir ji...british already increse their VLS number (72 VLS with sea septer missile) in their type 45 daring class. it hv same displacement like vishakhapatnam class. even if we cant add VLS in our destroyer, why cant we increase missile number by fitting surface launchers in empty space?? yes it will decrease its stealth, but with 600-800 km range brahmos or barak 8 missile addition, we dont need too stealthy destroyer. coz enemy ships radar can only detect our ships maximum 400-450 km range.

There is an Universal VLS under development. Let's wait for it to come online. Then we will see how many missiles our capital ships are carrying.

 

[vin bharat mahan]

Tonnage similar doesn't mean design similarity
Both are universe apart in terns of design and interior space
Jo dikhta hai woh under hota nahi

lets agree to disagree....

 

[Blademaster]

Ya'll NibbiarsbThe NGMV are the Sa'ar Equivalent with 28 VLS.

Not to mention a longer staying power at sea and ability to ride out more storms and heavier sea states. Israel has no need to venture beyond its shores on the Med or Gulf of Agaba.

 

[binayak95]

Not to mention a longer staying power at sea and ability to ride out more storms and heavier sea states. Israel has no need to venture beyond its shores on the Med or Gulf of Agaba.

The same argument applies to the Kamortas and yet people go huur duur underarmed.

 

[abingdonboy]

beside these i think we should buy/make israeli six SAAR 6 corvette. which hv only 2000+ ton displacement. yet it can carry one 10 ton helicopter, 32 barak 8 missile, 16 gabreal or sea breaking cruise missile (200-300 km range) nd other smaller missile. it hv also impressive 7400 km range, but its cost is approx 500 million dollar. one nilgiri class frigate cost is aprrox 900 million dollar. although it hv lesser but deadlier 8 brahmos missile. but we can also fit brahmos ng instead of tomohawk or gabriel missile in SAAR 6. look our most corvette ships, they hv 2500 ton displacement, but only antisubmarine capabilities. they cant match 32 barak 8 sam of SAAR 6, which is equal to our destroyer. although our Corvette r cheaper (approx 200-250 million dollar). they hv limited sam system nd no antiship capabilities. what u guys think??

What’s stopping this from being designed in india? Nothing. It’s up to the IN to specify what their requirements are

The IN’s fleet and orders reflects THEIR doctrine and planning

 

[abingdonboy]

That aint Soviet at all. Its Indian jugaad.

The first blue water missile ships in Indian service (in ASIAN service) were British built ASW frigates with fantastic sea keeping hulls mated with the entire fire control and armament of the old OSA M class missile boats.

Both the Soviets and the Brits thought it impossible.

IN: hold my chai. (or more appropriately, Jack Daniels)

It actually sounds like the British approach- plugged for, not paid for.

Basically the backend infrastructure is fitted for future systems to be added if the money is made available/need is felt down the road but at induction they are basically stripped down. The T45s iirc were delivered without CIWS but with the wiring and provisioning all there for later on when the money was available

 

[WolfPack86]

Big boost to Indian navy: MoD inks acquisition worth Rs 19,600 crore for next-generation offshore patrol and missile vessels
The contract for the acquisition of 11 Next Generation Offshore Patrol Vessels under Buy (Indian-IDDM) category was signed with Goa Shipyard Ltd (GSL) and Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE), Kolkata at a total cost of Rs 9,781 crore.

According to the Indian navy, the 11 warships will be indigenously designed, developed & manufactured by GSL and GRSE.

“The delivery of the ships is scheduled to commence in September 2026,” the MoD said.

The acquisition of these ships will enable the Indian Navy to maintain its combat capability and meet various operational requirements such as Anti-Piracy, Counter-Infiltration, Anti-Poaching, Anti-Trafficking, Non-Combatant Evacuation Operations, Search and Rescue (SAR), Protection of Offshore Assets etc.


“The construction of these ships will generate employment of 110 lakh man-days over a period of seven and half years,” MoD said.

Next Generation Missile Vessels
The contract for the acquisition of six Next Generation Missile Vessels (NGMV) was signed with Cochin Shipyard Limited (CSL) at a cost of Rs 9,805 crore. The delivery of ships is scheduled to commence in March 2027.

The NGMVs would be heavily armed war vessels incorporating stealth, high speed and offensive capability. The primary role of the ships would be to provide offensive capability against enemy warships, merchantmen and land targets.

These ships will be capable of conducting Maritime Strike Operations, Anti Surface Warfare Operations and would be a potent instrument of sea denial for enemy ships, especially at choke points.

In a defensive role, these ships would be employed for Local Naval Defence operations and seaward defence of the Offshore Development Area.

The construction of these ships will generate employment of 45 lakh man-days over a period of nine years as per the statement.

The MoD explained that the indigenous manufacturing of these vessels will encourage the active participation of Indian shipbuilding and associated industries, including MSMEs.

https://www.financialexpress.com/business/defence-big-boost-to-indian-navy-mod-inks-acquisition-worth-rs-19600-crore-for-next-generation-offshore-patrol-and-missile-vessels-nbsp-3027639/

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Which design was finalized for the NGMV ? This one ?

 

[gslv markIII]

That aint Soviet at all. Its Indian jugaad.

The first blue water missile ships in Indian service (in ASIAN service) were British built ASW frigates with fantastic sea keeping hulls mated with the entire fire control and armament of the old OSA M class missile boats.

Both the Soviets and the Brits thought it impossible.

IN: hold my chai. (or more appropriately, Jack Daniels)

That's one amazing story. The old Talwar.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Which design was finalized for the NGMV ? This one ?
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Design looks weird, never seen that style of gun in the front, and it has twin barrel AK-630s.... and not top and bottom (which IN rejected for being too hard to maintain), but side by side? which I dont think exists actually.

So this may be representative order and not actual one.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Which design was finalized for the NGMV ? This one ?
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Nope, this isn't design of NGMV.
This was only a model displayed by Brahmos Corp way back in 2009 as a potential upgrade for the Veer class corvettes.

 

[itsme]

Which design was finalized for the NGMV ? This one ?
View attachment 198616

I hope not, cause there is nothing "NG" about this design.

 

[abingdonboy]

Still no images? Weird.

no keel laying either?

 

[Fatalis]

Still no images? Weird.

no keel laying either?

Wait for DefExpo 2024.