Nag anti-tank Missile

[sayareakd]

This missile was test fired recently, i had seen pic and posted on DFI whatsapp group, if i found it i will post it here.

That time i thought it was CLGM manpod version.

 

[sayareakd]

ok one of the group member, had it and he has send it.

here

 

[sayareakd]

Nag will require a big vehicle to carry them and they just offer some 1.5 KM range extension advantage. India has already bought a huge numbers of Russian and Israeli missiles. Even if Nag succeeds, what Indian army will do with them. Nag should have come a decade ago.

Hari this is the question i asked the guys who have made Nag, as to why they have not made any manpod version of the same in year 2006, they said, because IA never issued any GSQR for the same, we cant just made weapons based on what we think, it has to be audited and we have to answer to auditor, so basically when no requirements from armed forces, they can't just make it.

Only when need has arised, they have made it.

 

[Prashant12]

Helina Launcher

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/

 

[Prashant12]

Behold DRDL's man-portable Anti-tank guide missile.

https://twitter.com/delhidefence

 

[sayareakd]

ok one of the group member, had it and he has send it.

here

Wonder if we can add remote activation and mini UAV targeting for it.

 

[sthf]

If only they can make make it in time, then and only then it'll be worth something. But I am rooting for it anyways.

I sincerely hope that they learned their lessons with the never ending Nag saga.

 

[Prashant12]

Dhruvastra twin-rail launcher for the HELINA ATGM

https://twitter.com/livefist

 

[Scrutator]

Dhruvastra twin-rail launcher for the HELINA ATGM

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These tubes look a lot more secure than the old ones!

Just curious: Where is this moniker 'twin-rail' coming from? Is it from Trishul/Prasun? Helina is tube launched, it should be called 'twin-tube' launcher. Sorry for being persnickety!

 

[Prashant12]

Prospina trials to be held at Jaisalmer firing range

JODHPUR: Prospina missile earlier known as Nag is all set for trials at the Chandan Field Firing Range in Jaisalmere. While the much delayed the Gen-3 Fire and Forget Anti-Tank Guided Missile had successful night trials at a range of four km earlier last year, the infra-red seekers had a problem in differentiating the target from the surroundings in hot desert conditions during the day time.

As per the official sources, the missile is now being tested for a reduced range of 3-3.2km during the day time from the earlier target of 4km for both day and night.

Officials shared that the trials for this much awaited missile shall be conducted in the second week of June for testing the performance of Prospina with improved Imaging Infra Red Seekers (which guide the missile to its target after launch) for extreme hot weather in June.

Nag a baby of Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL) of DRDO was earlier a part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme of the DRDO launched in 1980s.

Success evaded DRDO for a long time in case of Project Nag, now renamed and launched as Prospina taking this missile out of the cluster of missiles under Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme of (IGMDP) of India. A couple of months after the past user trials failed, the government had to give its nod for procuring second generation 10,000 Russian Konkurs-M, Anti Tank Guided Missiles for Indian Armys infantry formations.

Prospina successfully hit the target four kilometers away during a night trial at Mahajan Field Firing' Range in Bikaner last year validating the enhanced range of its Imaging Infra Red seeker.

However, subsequently the DRDO officials revealed that the missile would now be tested and handed over to Army with a reduced range of 3.2 km or so especially during the peak day hours in the first phase.

The missile saw roadblocks since its earlier Imaging Infra Red Seekers were not able to differentiate between the target and surroundings in hot desert temperatures with both reaching the same temperature.

Highly sensitive detectors have been placed on missile tip for sensing heat or infra red signals in three different thermal scenarios including that of a thermal differential within the target, between the target and the background and surrounding temperature variation.

Prospina shall be mounted and transported on a Mechanised Infantry Combat Vehicle. Grand plans as per the officials are underway to confer this all weather missile with an unmatched competence of detecting and hitting the targets with a very Low Thermal Contrast vis a vis surroundings to the tune of a mere 0.2 degree Celsius.

This job of developing High Resolution Imaging Infra Red seekers as per the demand projected by the Indian Army was entrusted to Research Centre Imarat (RCI), a Hyderabad based DRDO lab.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...isalmer-firing-range/articleshow/59062200.cms

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Prospina trials to be held at Jaisalmer firing range

JODHPUR: Prospina missile earlier known as Nag is all set for trials at the Chandan Field Firing Range in Jaisalmere. While the much delayed the Gen-3 Fire and Forget Anti-Tank Guided Missile had successful night trials at a range of four km earlier last year, the infra-red seekers had a problem in differentiating the target from the surroundings in hot desert conditions during the day time.

As per the official sources, the missile is now being tested for a reduced range of 3-3.2km during the day time from the earlier target of 4km for both day and night.

Officials shared that the trials for this much awaited missile shall be conducted in the second week of June for testing the performance of Prospina with improved Imaging Infra Red Seekers (which guide the missile to its target after launch) for extreme hot weather in June.

Nag a baby of Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL) of DRDO was earlier a part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme of the DRDO launched in 1980s.

Success evaded DRDO for a long time in case of Project Nag, now renamed and launched as Prospina taking this missile out of the cluster of missiles under Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme of (IGMDP) of India. A couple of months after the past user trials failed, the government had to give its nod for procuring second generation 10,000 Russian Konkurs-M, Anti Tank Guided Missiles for Indian Armys infantry formations.

Prospina successfully hit the target four kilometers away during a night trial at Mahajan Field Firing' Range in Bikaner last year validating the enhanced range of its Imaging Infra Red seeker.

However, subsequently the DRDO officials revealed that the missile would now be tested and handed over to Army with a reduced range of 3.2 km or so especially during the peak day hours in the first phase.

The missile saw roadblocks since its earlier Imaging Infra Red Seekers were not able to differentiate between the target and surroundings in hot desert temperatures with both reaching the same temperature.

Highly sensitive detectors have been placed on missile tip for sensing heat or infra red signals in three different thermal scenarios including that of a thermal differential within the target, between the target and the background and surrounding temperature variation.

Prospina shall be mounted and transported on a Mechanised Infantry Combat Vehicle. Grand plans as per the officials are underway to confer this all weather missile with an unmatched competence of detecting and hitting the targets with a very Low Thermal Contrast vis a vis surroundings to the tune of a mere 0.2 degree Celsius.

This job of developing High Resolution Imaging Infra Red seekers as per the demand projected by the Indian Army was entrusted to Research Centre Imarat (RCI), a Hyderabad based DRDO lab.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...isalmer-firing-range/articleshow/59062200.cms

Ghatiya Name. What was wrong with Hlalina?

 

[aditya10r]

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[rishivashista13]

Why it is required to change the name ?
Is there any difference between Nag and Prospina ?

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[Chinmoy]

Why it is required to change the name ?
Is there any difference between Nag and Prospina ?

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Not much. But in my opinion, the main reason for going with this name is because of history. NAG was originally a part of IGMDP which was started in 1980's, but long before that India had developed an ATM by the name of PROSPINA in 1962 to be deployed at Sino-Indian border. It was test fired at present day Imarat in Hyderabad. But suddenly in mid of development the project was shelved in 1969 with GSQR changing its range requirement.

From being a MANPAD with a range of 500 mtrs to 4Km, GSQR changed the requirement to a multi platform launched missile with a range of 1.6 to 3 Km. Now after the NAG has been dissociated from IGMDP and with its new range, DRDO might have changed the name to long abandoned PROSPINA.

But all these are my speculations only.....

 

[rishivashista13]

Not much. But in my opinion, the main reason for going with this name is because of history. NAG was originally a part of IGMDP which was started in 1980's, but long before that India had developed an ATM by the name of PROSPINA in 1962 to be deployed at Sino-Indian border. It was test fired at present day Imarat in Hyderabad. But suddenly in mid of development the project was shelved in 1969 with GSQR changing its range requirement.

From being a MANPAD with a range of 500 mtrs to 4Km, GSQR changed the requirement to a multi platform launched missile with a range of 1.6 to 3 Km. Now after the NAG has been dissociated from IGMDP and with its new range, DRDO might have changed the name to long abandoned PROSPINA.

But all these are my speculations only.....

That old ATM is totally different from this Prospina, that was a wire guided missile and this is a infrared heat seeking missile .
There was some reports that Nag range will be extended to 5 kms, but as name changes from Nag to Prospina it's range decreases to 3 kms.
And I am still thinking, why all this ?

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[Armand2REP]

Congratulations on the successful development of NAG ATGM.

That old ATM is totally different from this Prospina, that was a wire guided missile and this is a infrared heat seeking missile .
There was some reports that Nag range will be extended to 5 kms, but as name changes from Nag to Prospina it's range decreases to 3 kms.
And I am still thinking, why all this ?

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The official range was dropped from 4km to 3.3km because the IR seeker loses target acquisition in high heat at range from 11am - 4pm. It will always work at 3.3km, at 4km it needs to be cooler than a desert to get target contrast.

 

[Suryavanshi]

I am not to familiar with this technology, I get that it would be used against tank from the name but what is the method. Is it mounted on tanks or used in rocket launcher?

 

[Chinmoy]

That old ATM is totally different from this Prospina, that was a wire guided missile and this is a infrared heat seeking missile .
There was some reports that Nag range will be extended to 5 kms, but as name changes from Nag to Prospina it's range decreases to 3 kms.
And I am still thinking, why all this ?

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What I said is my assumption only. NAG was a part of IGMDP and since it has been dissociated from the program now, this name change might have happened. But as far as similarity between older ATM and present day NAG is concerned, note that GSQR had asked for a missile with 1.5 to 3.3 Km range at that time. Right now NAG has been engineered for that range.

As far as wire guidance is concerned, DRDO had been unable to design NAG into one during initial phase. Instead they had gone for IR and MmW seeker for NAG. But later on BDL had designed and tested AMOGHA-1 with wire guidance.

 

[Chinmoy]

I am not to familiar with this technology, I get that it would be used against tank from the name but what is the method. Is it mounted on tanks or used in rocket launcher?

NAMICA had been designed for its launch based on BMP-2.

HELINA is the Helicopter launched version. Details are there in this very thread.

 

[rockrocky]

Anti Tank Guided Missile Nag has been successfully test-fired in desert ranges of Rajasthan