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IAF doesn't float tenders MoD does. This too is a G2G deal.where they
IAF doesn't float tenders MoD does. This too is a G2G deal.where they
Many deals have been politically motivated like the plans to award Reliance to make ka 226 helis. Anil ambani afterall has poured billions of rupees in BJP's ad campaign.@spikey360, I think with the Indo-Russian join ventures being mainly Russian as far as technical contribution goes, I doubt how much India can have a say. India wants to get a bigger share and greater say, and this is perhaps motivated by the will to learn more, but Russia wouldn't want to create a competitor. This, I think, indicates that India is seen as capable of defence production.
IAF was indeed insane when they chose the CH-47 over the Mil-26T2 as a heavy lifter (as a heavy lifter, repeated for emphasis). The former can never be a substitute for the latter. That deal looked like politically motivated. Now, we have only one operational, with about 100 hours left.
Exactly my friend.@pmaitra Nothing wrong with C130 per se. It is a very capable platform, I am sure. However, what is the point in antagonizing Russia by first starting a joint project and then stopping it?
It is certainly not a business like behaviour. It is neither a friendly behaviour. Then what is it, if not antagonising.
Going to a fish market, buying a fish and then complaining it does not have four eyes and accusing the seller of fraud is certainly not a sane behaviour.
We can, but too late for that now. Unless we base it off an existing design.Why not make a JV between HAL & AIRBUS of France to make a MTA?
Because everything with France costs a bundle of money and MOD has limited budget.Why not make a JV between HAL & AIRBUS of France to make a MTA?
Russians need the planes now. They have no time to develop a new engine. You need to factor that Antonov bureau is dead. This creates support problems for Antonov planes.We can, but too late for that now. Unless we base it off an existing design.
If MTA doesn't work out (either Russia needs to have a FADEC-equipped engine ready, or we need to change up the requirements), then it's most likely that IAF will request for the C-130J. Tata can expand it's existing component-manufacturing business for 130s into a full fledged production line. Plus IAF already operates Hercules versions, so less time is lost getting used to it.
In my opinion, the MTA might as well be dropped. UAC/Ilyushin won't go with a FADEC-equipped engine unless the major customer (RusAF) wants it, but their Air Force is happy with the non-FADEC engines.
IAF on the other hand will not accept it without FADEC as we are looking to get ourselves more in line with Western aviation standards.
It serves to be discerning instead of pretending to smell conspiracy in everything.I think some people are intentionally messing up with this project to support import of more units of C130.
The C-130J-30 planes we currently operate (even the additional six) are intended mostly for Special Forces use, not for menial transport duties, it's not a major role.India lived without 20_t class transports for decades, so clearly IAF does not feel a strong need.
11 Hercules are there to take care of north east.
How can iaf rely on an32. Budhiya par kitni lipstick lagaoge?The C-130J-30 planes we currently operate (even the additional six) are intended mostly for Special Forces use, not for menial transport duties, it's not a major role.
IAF was cool for a time because the An-32 upgrade was coming along nicely. Now that program was stopped abruptly and HAL is wondering if it can upgrade them in-house or not.
In short, it serves to think ahead to plan for all eventualities given current situation.
I think we did that with EADS CASA C-295, but it's based off an existing design as @Gessler said. No R&D. Probably a make in India project.Why not make a JV between HAL & AIRBUS of France to make a MTA?
Absolutely.@Gessler, Russia is correct in their stand.
It has been what, 3 to 4 years since MTA was brought up? Till date there is zero progress on the plane for India.If india is keen on cfm56, then india can do this integration at HAL. Why burden Russians with it.