Modernisation of Indian Army Infantry

[Unknowncommando 2]

Are regular bsf troops equiped this way, or just showing off at Wagah? View attachment 67901View attachment 67902

Regulars too slowly getting good stuff. But in limited numbers as of now.

Central Armed Police Force(CAPFs)

CRPF COBRA Bayonet on IWI X95

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[Hari Sud]

All this is happening because the MOD and the Armed forces are somehow interested only in big sensational orders that create a big ruckus.

In contrast, look at the MHA. It has been ordering arguably the best AKM variant in the entire world from Bulgaria, X95s from Israel, all very quietly in small batches every year without any major contract. Some of the MHA units (NSG, some CRP units) are better equipped than the army now.

I don't know why MOD orders are not as simple as MHAs.

Have tough time believing that best variant of AKM is made by Bulgaria. They have been cheap $200 copy of AK47 For a long time.

 

[ShoorVeer]

Have tough time believing that best variant of AKM is made by Bulgaria. They have been cheap $200 copy of AK47 For a long time.

Take a look at their Arsenal AKs. Milled and of absolutely top quality. One of best. All users in India are happy from them.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

Are regular bsf troops equiped this way, or just showing off at Wagah? View attachment 67901View attachment 67902

I mean what are they showing off here? Where is the helmet or BPJ? They look under equipped to me. To me BSF has the most severe equipment problem out of all the CAPFs good equipment is coming in but only in limited numbers.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

I mean what are they showing off here? Where is the helmet or BPJ? They look under equipped to me. To me BSF has the most severe equipment problem out of all the CAPFs good equipment is coming in but only in limited numbers.

Well they are atleast carrying a good weapon, each has a communication device, both have mag pouches, any ways I posted a pic after this in which they are wearing BPJ.

 

[FalconSlayers]

UCAVs are a must and we should invest more and more and UAVs but I’m disappointed by the fact that IAF never purchased the Rustom-I drone in large numbers, it could have been good boost in the gap of UAVs in IAF.

 

[SUPERPOWER]

UCAVs are a must and we should invest more and more and UAVs but I’m disappointed by the fact that IAF never purchased the Rustom-I drone in large numbers, it could have been good boost in the gap of UAVs in IAF.

Whole system is a Day Dreamer..

 

[Killbot]

Have tough time believing that best variant of AKM is made by Bulgaria. They have been cheap $200 copy of AK47 For a long time.

With rails, much better top covers, muzzle devices, etc. Arsenal is the best AK manufacturer in the world aside from the Kalashnikov concern itself. And they cost $300, as they are produced in factories the size of a city. All the required infra is there. What the CRPF is getting for $300 is as good as what army wants to pay $1200 for.

 

[FalconSlayers]

With rails, much better top covers, muzzle devices, etc. Arsenal is the best AK manufacturer in the world aside from the Kalashnikov concern itself. And they cost $300, as they are produced in factories the size of a city. All the required infra is there. What the CRPF is getting for $300 is as good as what army wants to pay $1200 for.

AK-203 is a political buy and a BS, AK-15 or AK-19 would be better. But no doubt Bulgarian AKs are the most reliable and cost friendly as they are high quality and mass produced.

 

[Killbot]

AK-203 is a political buy and a BS, AK-15 or AK-19 would be better. But no doubt Bulgarian AKs are the most reliable and cost friendly as they are high quality and mass produced.

Dude, if they wanted an AK that much, they should have made their own thing. Like 7.62*39 version of INSAS with a shorter barrel, rails, collapsible stock etc. Thet could have put ambidextrous controls on it, that is how good the INSAS design was. And done one of their private public joint or whatever venture dramas while at it. But no, how maai baap muzzer rossiya get rich??

 

[N4tsula67]

Dude, if they wanted an AK that much, they should have made their own thing. Like 7.62*39 version of INSAS with a shorter barrel, rails, collapsible stock etc. Thet could have put ambidextrous controls on it, that is how good the INSAS design was. And done one of their private public joint or whatever venture dramas while at it. But no, how maai baap muzzer rossiya get rich??

Issue was Roossies were pissed with us reverse engineering their AKs so all this drama. China reverse engineer kare to okay to roossies but if India do it they be like "Cyka blyat you Indoo why coopy my AKs"

 

[Killbot]

Issue was Roossies were pissed with us reverse engineering their AKs so all this drama. China reverse engineer kare to okay to roossies but if India do it they be like "Cyka blyat you Indoo why coopy my AKs"

Wr copied the AK with INSAS, what did they do? All that daddy Kalashnikov got pissed is bullshit meant to justify the overpriced AKM deal.

 

[Trololo]

When items are made in India, regulars and SF get them quickly. Examples: Helmet, BPJ, MPV, Dhruv ALH, etc. With AK-203 being churned out of India it should also see induction amongst regular troops quickly. Next in line is NVG, standard camo clothing, boots, gloves, knee pads, etc. The fact that MoD and MHA are working in tandem to standardise basic infantry kit after these may years is an achievement in itself. Lets keep egging our politicians to deliver and keep them in check to ensure the men who protect us get what they need.

I digress a bit but the BJPs main opposition is not the Congress or anyone else but the BJPs own supporters who keep the party leaders in check and vehemently criticise their moves on SM and other platforms when the need arises. This is a unique political development which should be cherished. It'll ensure good leaders get promoted up the ranks and serve the interests of the country better.

 

[WolfPack86]

Indian Army to get drones from Israel, America for surveillance along China border
NEW DELHI: In a major boost to its capabilities, the Indian Army is soon going to get Israeli Heron and American mini drones for upgrading its surveillance capabilities in Eastern Ladakh and other areas along the China border.

"The deals for the acquisition of the Heron surveillance drones is in the final stages and is expected to be inked in December. The Herons are going to be deployed in the Ladakh sector and they will be more advanced than the existing fleet in the Indian armed forces," government sources were quoted as saying by ANI.




The acquisition of these drones is being done under the emergency financial powers granted by Prime Minister Narendra Modi-led government to the defence forces under which they can buy equipment and systems worth ₹500 crores to upgrade their warfighting capabilities, amid ongoing border conflict with China, they added.

According to sources, the other small or mini drones are being acquired from the US that will be provided at the Battalion level to the troops on ground and the hand-operated drones would be used to attain awareness about a specific location or area in their respective areas of responsibility.




The Indian defence forces have been taking these initiatives to acquire weapon systems which can help them in the ongoing conflict with China. The last time such a facility was given to the defence forces was in 2019 right after the Balakot air strikes against terrorist camps in Pakistan.

Using the same facility, the Indian Navy has leased two Predator drones which have been taken from American firm General Atomics.




The Indian Air Force had exercised the same powers to acquire a large number of Hammer air to ground standoff missiles with a strike range of around 70 kilometres.

Indian Army to get drones from Israel, America for surveillance along China border

The acquisition of these drones is being done under the emergency financial powers granted by Prime Minister Narendra Modi-led government to the defence forces.

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[FalconSlayers]

Indian Army to get drones from Israel, America for surveillance along China border
NEW DELHI: In a major boost to its capabilities, the Indian Army is soon going to get Israeli Heron and American mini drones for upgrading its surveillance capabilities in Eastern Ladakh and other areas along the China border.

"The deals for the acquisition of the Heron surveillance drones is in the final stages and is expected to be inked in December. The Herons are going to be deployed in the Ladakh sector and they will be more advanced than the existing fleet in the Indian armed forces," government sources were quoted as saying by ANI.




The acquisition of these drones is being done under the emergency financial powers granted by Prime Minister Narendra Modi-led government to the defence forces under which they can buy equipment and systems worth ₹500 crores to upgrade their warfighting capabilities, amid ongoing border conflict with China, they added.

According to sources, the other small or mini drones are being acquired from the US that will be provided at the Battalion level to the troops on ground and the hand-operated drones would be used to attain awareness about a specific location or area in their respective areas of responsibility.




The Indian defence forces have been taking these initiatives to acquire weapon systems which can help them in the ongoing conflict with China. The last time such a facility was given to the defence forces was in 2019 right after the Balakot air strikes against terrorist camps in Pakistan.

Using the same facility, the Indian Navy has leased two Predator drones which have been taken from American firm General Atomics.




The Indian Air Force had exercised the same powers to acquire a large number of Hammer air to ground standoff missiles with a strike range of around 70 kilometres.

Indian Army to get drones from Israel, America for surveillance along China border

The acquisition of these drones is being done under the emergency financial powers granted by Prime Minister Narendra Modi-led government to the defence forces.

zeenews.india.com

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Super Herons?

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Yeh kisne kiya?

 

[Killbot]

Yeh kisne kiya? View attachment 68344

FAB Defence.

 

[Killswitch]

Yeh kisne kiya? View attachment 68344FAB FAB defense (Israeili) furniture on an INSAS. This was probably rejected because the INSAS has been a disappointment and the IA wants a whole new system to replace it, not just upgrades.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

We have a shortage of DMR rifles. The Dragunovs are at most 7000-8000 no. which IA wants to modernize. SSS Defence has come up with a upgrade package. However, still they are low in number. I feel that retired SLRs can be given a fresh lease of life by a upgrade package. There are more than a million+ no. manufactured by OFB.. The SLR is a reliable and accurate weapon system which can shoot upto a distance of 800 m(effectively) (with scope). It can serve as a good DMR option. Can serve both Army and CAPF as a low cost option.

Below is an upgraded FN FAL from DS Arms (USA). May be SSS defence can come up with something similar.

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[shuvo@y2k10]

Also, INSAS upgrade from companies like FAB defence and others are neccessary since once retired from the Army they will go to many CAPF and state police forces around the country.
I feel INSAS was a good design which combined elements from the FN FNC and AKM. However, it was screwed by by the QC issues during production at OFB.
If it was in USA and INSAS was a standard firearm issued to US troops, INSAS would have seen at least 4-5 generation evolution during its time till now 1997-2020.