Light tanks for Indian Army

[sesha_maruthi27]

What happened to the INDO-POLISH LIGHT TANK project ?

Hope the MoD has not dropped it.........

No news about the project......

 

[Kunal Biswas]

What happened to the INDO-POLISH LIGHT TANK project ?

Hope the MoD has not dropped it.........

No news about the project......

The Tank still in tests, It will take in RFI of Light tanks, So does CV120 and DRDO Light tank which is on development..

 

[SPIEZ]

What tanks are in the fray for this competition and what are the requirements Kunal ?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

What tanks are in the fray for this competition and what are the requirements Kunal ?

Tanks should be 20-22ton category..

Tank should able to engage targets 3000m away..

 

[bengalraider]

Personally speaking i prefer the swede CV90120 , my reasons are simple it is the lightest tracked armored platform in the market today that can give an MBT a run for it's money, also with the active protection suite installed this becomes a very credible threat to modern full fledged MBT's .The CV90120 is a very mature product and the cpability to carry twice as much ammo as it's polish friend(45 rounds for the CV90120 to 22 for the Anders) gives it an edge.
The Anders however does have two aces up it's sleeve the ability to carry 4 combat equipped troops(min) into battle gives it the capability to act as a fire support/Heavy combat APC as well.Also the 105mm version of the ANders has the capability to use the Falarick gun launched missile with a range of 5000mt.

 

[SPIEZ]

Tanks should be 20-22ton category..

Tank should able to engage targets 3000m away..

Where will they be used and why this requirement ?

Personally speaking i prefer the swede CV90120 , my reasons are simple it is the lightest tracked armored platform in the market today that can give an MBT a run for it's money, also with the active protection suite installed this becomes a very credible threat to modern full fledged MBT's .The CV90120 is a very mature product and the cpability to carry twice as much ammo as it's polish friend(45 rounds for the CV90120 to 22 for the Anders) gives it an edge.
The Anders however does have two aces up it's sleeve the ability to carry 4 combat equipped troops(min) into battle gives it the capability to act as a fire support/Heavy combat APC as well.Also the 105mm version of the ANders has the capability to use the Falarick gun launched missile with a range of 5000mt.

If it's heavy APC there was a Vijayanta tank which was converted into an APC, may be that could be an option. but than again...

 

[bengalraider]

@Spiez- the Indian Heavy APC is called the tarmour and is based on teh T-55 platform not the vijayanta.

anyways please find the brochure for the CV90120 attached.View attachment bae.pdf

 

[Ray]

PT 76 was the last of the Light Tanks used by the Indian Army.

A main battle tank (MBT), also known as a battle tank or universal tank, is a tank that fills the heavy direct fire role of many modern armies. They were originally conceived to replace the light, medium, heavy and super-heavy tanks.

The concept of the medium tank gradually evolved into the MBT in the 1960s, as it was realized that medium tanks could carry guns (such as the US 90 mm, Soviet 100 mm, and especially the British L7 105 mm) that could penetrate any practical level of armor at long range. The World War II concept of heavy tanks, armed with the most powerful guns and heaviest armor, became obsolete because they were as vulnerable as other vehicles to the new medium tank. Likewise, World War II had shown that lightly armed and armored tanks were of limited value in most roles. Even reconnaissance vehicles had shown a trend towards heavier weight and greater firepower during World War II; speed was not a substitute for armor and firepower.

Wiki

 

[bengalraider]

PT 76 was the last of the Light Tanks used by the Indian Army.

A main battle tank (MBT), also known as a battle tank or universal tank, is a tank that fills the heavy direct fire role of many modern armies. They were originally conceived to replace the light, medium, heavy and super-heavy tanks.

The concept of the medium tank gradually evolved into the MBT in the 1960s, as it was realized that medium tanks could carry guns (such as the US 90 mm, Soviet 100 mm, and especially the British L7 105 mm) that could penetrate any practical level of armor at long range. The World War II concept of heavy tanks, armed with the most powerful guns and heaviest armor, became obsolete because they were as vulnerable as other vehicles to the new medium tank. Likewise, World War II had shown that lightly armed and armored tanks were of limited value in most roles. Even reconnaissance vehicles had shown a trend towards heavier weight and greater firepower during World War II; speed was not a substitute for armor and firepower.

Wiki

Sir,
I believe the AMX-13 was also one of our mainstays in times past!

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Where will they be used and why this requirement ?

The tank is intended to Use over Mountains such as Karu and near by areas..

Over here only BMP-2 can operate not others like T-72 & T-55 so there is a need for Light tank..

 

[Ray]

MBTs or AFV that are heavy will have problems operating on mountain roads and tracks.

Notice the width of the road.

Apart from the weight, the width will also matter. especially when the road turns sharply.

The Himalayas is a young range and has not settled as yet.

 

[Ray]

Sir,
I believe the AMX-13 was also one of our mainstays in times past!

Yes, IIRC AMX 13s were there. 20L, 8 CAV

They were in the independent armoured squadrons IIRC

PT 76 was with 45 CAV and 63 CAV.

It is long past and so it is all IIRC.

 

[SPIEZ]

Yes, IIRC AMX 13s were there. 20L, 8 CAV

They were in the independent armoured squadrons IIRC

PT 76 was with 45 CAV and 63 CAV.

It is long past and so it is all IIRC.

What is CAV? And are these light tanks useful. And didn't PT76 fail miserably in war?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

What is CAV? And are these light tanks useful. And didn't PT76 fail miserably in war?

CAV stands for Cavalry.

PT-76 were very efficient during Eastern front, But when you use such tanks against M48/47 then you don't have much chance..

PT-76 shredded US given M24 Chaffee Light Tank, In one instant a PT-76 while swimming Sunk a Large Pakistani Gun boat..

 

[Ray]

Even PT 76 got bogged down in the mud of East Pakistan and became sitting ducks.

 

[Ray]

20 L = 20 Lancers.(Bengal Lancers)

Cav is Cavalry.

I believe Pakistan also has 20 Lancers.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Even PT 76 got bogged down in the mud of East Pakistan and became sitting ducks.

Sir,PT-76 was better but nothing beats Nature..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

M114

If one can modify it, it can hold big gun..


Full-tracked, Amphibious Armoured Personnel Carrier.

The Manufacturer was Cadillac Motor Car Division of General Motors Corp.
Engine: Chevrolet 283-V8 Military; 8 cylinder V gasoline 160 hp
Transmission: Hydraulic Model 305MC, 4 speeds forward, 1 reverse
Steering: Allison GS 100-3, geared, clutch-brake, steering bar
Brakes: Multiple plate, oil cooled
Weight: 6846.2 kg
Length: is 4464 mm
Speed land: 58 water 9 km/h
Ground clearance 362 mm
Hull is made from Rolled aluminium
Fuel: 420 litre

 

[W.G.Ewald]

M114

nlike the M113 which became one of the most successful armoured vehicles, it quickly proved unsuited to use in the Vietnam war, and was replaced in the reconnaissance role by the M551 Sheridan light tank.

M114 armored fighting vehicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

M551

The M551 Sheridan was a light tank developed by the United States and named after Civil War General Philip Sheridan. It was designed to be landed by parachute and to swim across rivers. It was armed with the technically advanced but troublesome M81/M81E1 152mm gun/launcher which fired conventional ammunition and the MGM-51 Shillelagh guided anti-tank missile.

M551 Sheridan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Kunal Biswas]

M114

M114 armored fighting vehicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What if ?

M114 is smaller than M551 Sheridan , If this can be fitted on it, It awesome..