Liaoning (Varyag) - Chinese Aircraft Carrier

debasree

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Wow,F-35~

that really cost a lot of money.

but u know what? india is really more rich than china.our government even dont have chance to buy it.

however,i still doubt those mean PLAs would buy mass f-35s if they could~~

PLA r really mean guys
as usual grapes are sour for the foxes,he.he he.............in urs dream boy pla buy f-35 ,as usa never give u that.
 

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Some Chinese forums are discuss if the above photos are PS work, no body for sure, but some wish the photos are true, but here I think all the Indian memers wish the photos to be fake.
Thanks a lot for the Indian members comments here, it's realy very entertaining and lot of fun. Very good english, very wild wishful thinking, and very big mouth.
 

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en,very sweet grapes~when being addicted to it,u can get out
but in fact,PLA is making its own fighters for carrier.as u see,J-15.

this J-15 maybe learn a lot from su-33,but SF would gain a lot experience.like J-7,then J-10,and then J-20.finally we make our own planes.and it's not bad~
 

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en,very sweet grapes~when being addicted to it,u can get out
boy its a old story about a monkey and foxes ,where monkey taken all grapes fox get none and in helplessness he utter those word ,u dont know the story thats not a problem ,but from knowehere u claiming urs naval pilot and planes are best ,i do not take it u make various planes but most of it are copycat from west or russia and most importantly all are junk ,dont come to fight with us with those junk all will be put under the sea ,with ur junk ships and carriers.
 

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boy its a old story about a monkey and foxes ,where monkey taken all grapes fox get none and in helplessness he utter those word ,u dont know the story thats not a problem ,but from knowehere u claiming urs naval pilot and planes are best ,i do not take it u make various planes but most of it are copycat from west or russia and most importantly all are junk ,dont come to fight with us with those junk all will be put under the sea ,with ur junk ships and carriers.

China will not buy f35 by quantity even the usa likes to sell, you forget the China reputation as the greatest copycat in the world, if possible, only buy one, then make copy.
But please not mention fighting with China, you people not get the fighting spirit, you should learn how the 1962 war were fought.
 

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it was not a fight ,it was a trechary ,our pm jawharlal believe the evil mao and got the result ,this time we will be ready ,and by the way 1962-2011 many years gone,in these years urs millitary only engage to oppressing urs so called own countryman in tian an maen squre and tibet ,while ours are hardened up by facing urs servant pakis and various paki sponsored terrorists and bhup dont face them ,urs chineese army will go up in smoke .
 

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boy its a old story about a monkey and foxes ,where monkey taken all grapes fox get none and in helplessness he utter those word ,u dont know the story thats not a problem ,but from knowehere u claiming urs naval pilot and planes are best ,i do not take it u make various planes but most of it are copycat from west or russia and most importantly all are junk ,dont come to fight with us with those junk all will be put under the sea ,with ur junk ships and carriers.
er~u angry? or those MADE IN CHINA AIRCRADTS touch ur sensitive nerve?

what India bought from other countries is nice weapon.really nice.i didnt say the weapon we chinese make will fight ur things and win u.

well chinese millitary products r not junk.as we know,many country has bought those products which u call a junk.

see what? we sell weapons such as missiles /tanks/fighters/guns/ships/....

i just mean we can make them and sell them.maybe they r not the best,but they works.they strengthen those countries.

and now ,we make aircraft.its skin is vayag,we learn a lot from this ship.we rebuilt it and give it new life.this is a training ship.

and we r begain to design our aircraft.however,our fighters and AWACS for carries is not good enough to get on.fortunately,they r

nearly finished.lets see what amazing things chinese millitary would give us~

we also buy weapons.but as we see,we spend less and less money on importing weapons....
 
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it was not a fight ,it was a trechary ,our pm jawharlal believe the evil mao and got the result ,this time we will be ready ,and by the way 1962-2011 many years gone,in these years urs millitary only engage to oppressing urs so called own countryman in tian an maen squre and tibet ,while ours are hardened up by facing urs servant pakis and various paki sponsored terrorists and bhup dont face them ,urs chineese army will go up in smoke .
the war was caused by india's aggressive forward policy, not the other way round, when india had forwarded to china's boots, we didn't mind to give your ass a mighty kick, lol.
 

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Russia refuses to sell arresters for Chinese aircraft carrier

Russia refuses to sell arresters for Chinese aircraft carrier

source 2

Construction of the first
Chinese aircraft carrier
faced new unanticipated
problems; it turned out
that the former Soviet
carrier Varyag was not
equipped with arresters,
and it is unclear where
China could get them. In
2007 news agency Kanwa
exclusively reported from
St. Petersburg that China
would buy 4 arresters
designed by Marine
Engineering Research
Institute and made by
Proletarsky Zavod plant
which produces all
Russian arresters and
arresting hooks. Earlier
on, China had contacts
with this plant purchasing
constituent parts for
Project 956E/EM
destroyers.
Kanwa reported referring
to a source in the plant
that the Chinese had
visited it many times and
declared intentions to
purchase at least 4
arresters (the source used
the term "purchase"). The
talks took place in the
office of
Rosoboronexport;
negotiators of Proletarsky
Zavod presented their
production, and the
Chinese requested for
technical information.
In 2011 the authoritative
source told to Kanwa
reporter that the
negotiations were facing
unexpected problems –
Russian defense industry's
authorities had decided
not to sell arresters for
China.
According to the source,
China managed to get
arresting hooks from
Ukraine instead of buying
them directly from Marine
Engineering Research
Institute and Proletarsky
Zavod plant; those
arresters were suitable for
operational training
aircraft JL-9 and "copied"
J-15.
What made Russia refuse
to sell arresters to China
in the very nick of time?
Kanwa repeatedly asked
Russian defense and
foreign ministries about
China's purchase of
Russian aircraft carrier
construction technology.
Official reply was the
same: "it is prohibited to
export strategic armament
systems to China. Aircraft
carriers, nuclear-powered
submarines, nuclear
weapons production
technologies – all that are
strategic arms".
However, Kanwa inquired
into the subject and it
became apparent that
real cause of the problem
is not only "the ban on
strategic arms exports to
China" but Russia's
discontent with China
copying deck-based
fighter Su-33. Take note,
Marine Engineering
Research Institute
delivered two arresters
for Indian aircraft carrier
IAC and modernized
Admiral Gorshkov. The
institute also took part in
construction of naval
aviation training center
built on Goa, India.
In 2007 the source told to
Kanwa that designing and
production of arresters
was quite complicated
process and only Russia
and the US had
appropriate technology at
the moment. "In the past,
there used to be four
arresters on an aircraft
carrier, but the new
Indian carrier is equipped
with only three arresters,
which indicates of high
reliability of Russian
systems".
Representative of
Rosoboronexport A.
Plotnikov recently told to
Kanwa that "China really
wanted to buy arresters
but we did not sell them".
This confirms the
assumption that China
has not Russian arresters
in inventory. In 2006
director of Marine
Engineering Research
Institute and Proletarsky
Zavod plant told to
Kanwa reporter that
China was about to
purchase four arresters
and the parties had held
several rounds of
negotiations. However, in
2011 he said that "we've
received an unexpected
instruction from Moscow
to cut off all contacts with
Chinese partners. In other
words, we cannot deliver
arresters to China as well
as other equipment for
their aircraft carrier".
Russian foreign ministry
stated later on that
"strategic armaments and
technologies will not be
sold to China".
All abovementioned facts
illustrate why arresters
have not been delivered
to Yanliang air training
center by Aug 2010 and
why they were not
mounted on ex-Varyag
carrier by the time of her
first sortie. As for Kanwa,
construction of Chinese
aircraft carrier may face
considerable problems.
According to A. Plotnikov,
there are some old
arresters remained in
Ukraine, and China could
purchase them. However,
even if China really buys
them such arresters might
be used only as
presentation samples.
Ukrainian air training
center NITKA is not
equipped with large
number of arresters.
Moreover, after buying of
Ukrainian arresters and
studying their design
China would need some
time to develop own
analogs.
From: Rusnavy

Credibility of news source is suspected.
 
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So, does that mean that the Chinese aircraft landing on their Carriers, touch down to fly off or dump them into the South China Sea and make an island and claim that there are their aircraft which made the islands and so SCS is theirs and theirs alone?!

That would be very logical, given the Chinese way of logic!

:rofl:
 

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So, does that mean that the Chinese aircraft landing on their Carriers, touch down to fly off or dump them into the South China Sea and make an island and claim that there are their aircraft which made the islands and so SCS is theirs and theirs alone?!

That would be very logical,given the Chinese way of logic!

:rofl:
Okay, that was seriously funny.
 

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So, does that mean that the Chinese aircraft landing on their Carriers, touch down to fly off or dump them into the South China Sea and make an island and claim that there are their aircraft which made the islands and so SCS is theirs and theirs alone?!

That would be very logical, given the Chinese way of logic!

:rofl:
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Now that is a great sense of chines logic.
And seriously funny.
 

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So, does that mean that the Chinese aircraft landing on their Carriers, touch down to fly off or dump them into the South China Sea and make an island and claim that there are their aircraft which made the islands and so SCS is theirs and theirs alone?!

That would be very logical, given the Chinese way of logic!

:rofl:
Your comments are very humorous. On a serious note, if they cannot get the arresters for the navy carrier, How are they going to deploy the carrier? The other option for them will be steal the technical information through their espionage network. I hope Russia and USA are able to guard their technology. Chinese are known for stealing the industrial secrets and know how.
 

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