Rafale, EF and Gripen are fully developed. LCA's avionics are nearly ready, but they haven't been installed and integrated completely.It seems like everyone bullshits when it comes to stats - China, India, Pak.
Calling Tejas a 4.5 generation aircraft is really a stretch. The Rafale and Eurofighter are 4.5.
The gripen NG maybe.
What's in your mind and what's on the ground are completely different. LCA's airframe is 4th generation and higher. It has been clearly designed keeping the future advances in mind. The LCA's aerodynamics may not compare to the European aircraft because we still haven't see what LCA is capable of in its full configuration. Nevertheless, the airframe is right up there with the best. It equals or even betters the European airframes in some respects.in my mind both the JF-17 and LCA are 3.5 gen. Both the JF-17 and LCA have airframes that look very basic.
Jointly ****** 17 created a record to be completed in just 1000 day for induction becuase they donot have any thing called as innovativion in them. Body is copy of a russian jet and is full metal . engine is from Russians and avionics is so good then pakistanis are looking to upgrade it in very first year of operation.we have to look at the development flights and the production stage of both the aircraft. JF 17 is created world record to complete development from the first test flight to production within 1000 days. On the other hand LCA is still being tested. Waponisation of LCA is almost complete, whereas the JF-17 was inducted first and weaponsiation is underway, this fact speaks volumes of how things work in both the countries.
one more thing for LCA to be inducted in small batch it require IOC then FOC whereas what is the status of JF 17 is still not known. PAF was in great hurry to induct the fighter for the reasons best known to them.
wether you like or not its always 1vs 1 . entire purpose of building a machine is 1vs1. if there is no 1vs 1 then we will not have any defence forum. it wil be innovation forum. only thing we should care is not to make is a flame thread link pak defence forum.Useless thread , dont make it Pak-def forum . Where every thred is 1v1.
Let the both machines get operational in respective Air-force and we can compare.
Jf17 neither has IOC nor has FOC , there is no single record or video of Jf17 firing a BVR missile . They even are not sure of radar and Avionics on their planes .
Its wrong to compare these two at this time.
Fly-by-wire and withstand 12G manueversHey
Lets us first decide what 4.5 generation plane supposed to have in term of
1.aerodynamics and control systems
AESA on the higher end or high processing PESA array on the lower. 3rd generation IRST with long range laser range finder2.sensors suite(radar )
Wide assortment of PGM bombs and stand-off missiles as well as latest BVRAAM. Helmet mounted cueing system3.weapon suite
AESA solid-state jammers on the high end or DRFM pod jammers on the lower,4.Electronics Warfare suite/POD
T2W exceeding 1:1 with A2A loadout5. what else?
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