LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[Johny_Baba]

I wonder if Mk1 Tejas did not get those desi SPECTRA like protection suit on it, because of power consumption constraints? because we had to do lots of rework to get an AESA like ELTA or Uttam on it already and putting another dedicated power hogging electronic warfare and protection thing would be perhaps too much?

 

[NutCracker]

chutes moved below the engine-bay,

Either we'll have to reduce dragchute's size or It will be hugging the ground and would need very frequent replacement.

 

[Bleh]

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Either we'll have to reduce dragchute's size or It will be hugging the ground and would need very frequent replacement.

Drag-chute is jettisoned after every landing... Multi-million dollar jets pe yesab reuse nahi hota. But maybe you're right, it could be too low.

I know Rafale doesn't use one.

 

[patriots]

In gagan Shakti

R73 fired from tejas missed the target
Same with the bombs too,missed target

 

[patriots]

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1DXxyjlbmNNKM

 

[Narasimh]

In gagan Shakti

R73 fired from tejas missed the target
Same with the bombs too,missed target

incorrect.. both missile and bomb reached target.. proximity fuse did not trigger

 

[jai jaganath]

incorrect.. both missile and bomb reached target.. proximity fuse did not trigger

Yeah it seems so
Even cameraman has his own share of fault

 

[patriots]

incorrect.. both missile and bomb reached target.. proximity fuse did not trigger

Proximity fuze triggers when in close proximity

If you remember in last r73 too missed the target

 

[patriots]

Proximity fuze triggers when in close proximity

If you remember in last r73 too missed the target

In real war scenario......it will be called a failed mission

 

[jai jaganath]

Proximity fuze triggers when in close proximity

If you remember in last r73 too missed the target

R73 did hit ig but cameraman changed the focus

 

[patriots]

R73 did hit ig but cameraman changed the focus

The commentator from iaf said it missed ,but in if it was an actual target ig. Aircraft it would have hit

 

[Narasimh]

In real war scenario......it will be called a failed mission

in war, the target would be a larger aircraft with greater IR signature.. The Tejas launched it successfully after acquiring tone and the missile tracked it.. now if missile is an R73 which is not the best then its not the fault of the platform

 

[Narasimh]

BTW Samar's R73 also tracked but did not trigger!

 

[patriots]

in war, the target would be a larger aircraft with greater IR signature.. The Tejas launched it successfully after acquiring tone and the missile tracked it.. now if missile is an R73 which is not the best then its not the fault of the platform

Now small drones are a bigger threat zthen this r73 won't be able to shoot shaheed type drones

 

[NutCracker]

Now small drones are a bigger threat zthen this r73 won't be able to shoot shaheed type drones

Against the drones like shahed it's better to use 20mm cannon of LCA .

 

[Narasimh]

Now small drones are a bigger threat zthen this r73 won't be able to shoot shaheed type drones

yes R73 is not designed for that and is much too expensive to be used against those.. Akash too tracked but did not trigger with the small target. so there has to be systems designed from ground up to tackle these drones

 

[patriots]

 

[patriots]

 

[NutCracker]

What happened to truck based ak630.
There were some systems made.. why isn't ak630 inducted yet. View attachment 240966

iirc . Made in Jabalpur..
This thing just needs a fire control radar between turret and drivers cabin, it will also imporve the COG of the whole ass platform.

Rest , you can go on DRDO thread and open this can of worm there... Again.

It's been long time.

 

[Tridev123]

In gagan Shakti

R73 fired from tejas missed the target
Same with the bombs too,missed target

While 100% reliability and performance cannot be guaranteed for any weapon system, nonetheless the matter should be investigated.
But a single test firing cannot be used to arrive at a conclusion.
Important to find out out what is the failure percentage. Whether it matches the manufacturer's promised performance parameters.

I assume that all the missiles were well within the stipulated expiry dates.

Both Russian and Western weapons cannot guarantee 100% reliability.
Same rule applies for indigenous weapons also.

But there is a very big advantage of using indigenously designed, developed and manufactured weapons.
Since the entire system is made in India including the hardware and software it becomes much more easier to trouble shoot. We can identify the anamoly and initiate remedial measures. Not wait for the OEM to come and solve the problem.

It will be very very unlikely that the makers of imported weapons especially high tech weapons will have transferred a complete 100% of the technical data about the weapons. Usually some of the key component parts will be fully imported without India being allowed to make it.

We need both WVR and BVR air to air missiles of indigenous make.
If certain classes of Air to Air missiles need to be imported for more effective defence against aerial threats, we also need to ensure that every IAF fighter aircraft carries a mixture of fully indigenous AAM's and imported AAM's.

It maybe possible that our own fully indigenous AAM's could become our last line of defence if the high cost imported missiles fail to function as promised.