Why everyone forgetting the fact that kickbacks by defence lobbies for defence orders. Since HAL is a public sector company they can't indulge in kickbacks. Only practical reason I see for selecting fa50 over Tejas which is superior than fa50 in any count. One other reason may be cheap Price if news is true that price is 3.2 million than Tejas which is offered for 3.7 million.
The defence industry is notoriously dirty the world over but let’s not get hung up on that.
Are you John Titor?
If Korean media are reporting it then I’ll take their world for it.Are you John Titor?
How else could you have known that Tejas has lost to FA-50 in Malaysian jet deal? Nobody on Earth knows that yet!
I agree that Tejas is the underdog here, but I don't trust the Koreans reporting it. SoKo has corruption even at its highest echelons. Why would its media be trustworthy?
How tejas looses in L1 decision . Is not T50 deal more expensive ? Korean deal is RM 4.2 billion , tejas RM 3.75 billion .
Not that almost impossible odds don't get realized as they happen more frequently but to be honest we are not US or Russia or France to get the benefit of doubt. We do not have legacy in making or selling aircraft especially fighters. So if I were the customer I would think twice but if priced correctly then I may give it a shot depending on how important reliability is for me. Some things are not quantifiable as you make your decisions based on established presence and brand value.....very hard to break into new markets especially with new products. with no presence in that field. HAL is correct in trying regardless of result as it gives a good boost.
How many 3 generation planes does India make lol
India makes 4+ that's good enough
India makes 4+ generation? Which plane? How many squadrons of Mk1A have been ordered? There's not even a full squadron of Mk1A and people are clamoring for Mk2, Mk3, Mk4, AMCA, BMCA, ChamchaCA lol. I'm trying to put in a dose of realism here but people are way too idealistic about it.
2 mk1 squadron already in service
Currently there are two squadrons of Tejas Mk-1, Flying Daggers and Flying Bullets. Squadron flying daggers is based at Sulur AFS, Tamil Nadu. Not sure about Flying Bullets, I think so that it too is stationed in Sulur but I will have to confirm further later on.
Coming to Tejas being deployed near a potential Combat zone then there were reports dating back to August of 2020 which said that Tejas was deployed on the border with Pakistan. You cab search up the articles. All this will change with Tejas MK-1A, they will definitely deploy it more frequently near the border areas in my POV when Tejas MK-1A arrives. Also this year itself Squadron Flying Daggers was reportedly moved to the LAC Border in order to tackle the scrambles of Chinese Jets.
In what Way is it embarrassing? A lot has changed in Tejas program over these years, now Tejas MK-1A will be coming to numbers of more than 80+. See the Developments of Tejas post 2015, you will see how the much foreward the program has come today.
Correction : 83 Tejas are on order by the Indian Airforce. Out these, 73 will be of MK-1a standard and the remaining will be twin seat trainers.
Mk1A has been in production for 0 months. Literally the first test flight occurred 3 months ago (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_Tejas#Tejas_Mark_1A). People are excited about the plane being exported when India isn't even mass producing it for itself. You people are entirely missing the point. How far is Sulur from a combat zone? Any Tejas will need to be refueled before it can be deployed on the front line so what then, is the purpose of stationing it so far away? Just think it through
Lol. You and I both know how long it will be before a single Mk1A enters "FOC". Probably another decade at least, and by then people will be clamoring for ChamchawallahMCA, a 20++++ generation plane lol. Reality bites, you will catch up soon.
First you say we haven't made 4 gen plane then when guys give you proof you start singing another tone.
Tejas Mk-A will start it's production from 2024 onwards, after which all the Mk-1As will be delivered to the Indian Airforce before 2029-30.
What exactly is your Definition of mass production? Like a large number? Like what type of quantity? 40 Tejas mk-1 already in service with the 83 Mk-1A on order come to a total of 123 Tejas. Isn't that a large enough number for you? By the way you don't simply mass produce something. You do it depending on the order given to me you.
Which point of yours am I missing? Please elaborate.
Tejas is an LCA, and it is meant as a point defence fighter as far as I know. By the way how many Tejas have achieved FOC and how many have achieved IOC? You will get your answer in my opinion.
A lot of western defense companies that indulge in kickbacks are atleast partly state owned (see: Westland Affair) so this is not an excuse for losing the contract.
GOI and corruption lol...biggest hoarders of black money on the planet probably are/were politicians and businessmen from India. Money alone doesn't pull the strings in every case.
I am not sure what juice you are drinking but Tejas is well received and deployed in Sulur does not mean it is not fit for combat. May be base logistics are not ready and may be they want to wait till the 1a....you are being ludicrous. Aircraft is actively taking part in airshows around the world. That's the whole point of having domestic one, you can choose to pace the deployment optimally assuming lobbyists influence can't reach the RM and PM, COAS level
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