LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[Roland55]

What is your "Proof" that Astra MK-1 can be fired by Tejas having Israeli Elta Radar?

I'm not entirely sure, but...do we know what specific aircraft is being used for the integration? (if there is one or more) I remember seeing Kh-2013 alongside the aircraft with the Astra mk.1 used for aerodynamic testing. And let's remember...kh-2013 has the uttam radar..

I would estimate its being certified in all three.. thr 2032, 2052 and the utttam.

 

[Pazhassiraja]

Astra 1 can be fired from elta 2032 too

Tejas is better than jf17 already said by the iaf chief itself
We don't need meteor for now ,as we will have Astra mk2 and sfdr based bvr within 5 years

Tejas was tested agnaist f16....it was good ...in some

Can you please elaborate on the pitting of Tejas against F-16? When did this happen?

 

[Flying Dagger]

will we make a atgm that can be launched from fighter jet ??

Work in progress not exactly a fighter jet but drones and offcourse Helis.

The need for heavily armed Su 25 like fighter jet able to do so is there but not for long since drones will do the job. In our case it will be a longer wait.

 

[Flying Dagger]

What is your "Proof" that Astra MK-1 can be fired by Tejas having Israeli Elta Radar?

Why do you think we opted for the radar instead of a European/French one ?

All missiles including Russian will be integrated with it except European ones.

 

[patriots]

Can you please elaborate on the pitting of Tejas against F-16? When did this happen?

Not in public domain...
So let's wait for that

Not aganaist ...Pak f16 for sure

 

[Flying Dagger]

Can you please elaborate on the pitting of Tejas against F-16? When did this happen?

Not in public domain...
So let's wait for that

Not aganaist ...Pak f16 for sure

Fanboi... Fanboi... But nevertheless they will meet in real and we will get excercise against it too..

F-16 will always have tech edge over Tejas but Porks will not have top of the line F-16 version.

 

[Pazhassiraja]

Not in public domain...
So let's wait for that

Not aganaist ...Pak f16 for sure

Singapore F-16? Can you pls mention at least some of the areas where Tejas was found a worthy opponent in this duel?

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Theoretically yes, but practically no good will come out of it.
India vs Pakistan or PRC airspace will be contested and using shuck slow aircraft will endanger the crew especially with lack of decent EW Suite.
UCAVs are better suited for this role.

The "slow" airplane will still be faster than a heli, which is the other platform used for CAS. UCAV not great at terrain hugging CAS in a contested environment.

 

[Dark Sorrow]

The "slow" airplane will still be faster than a heli, which is the other platform used for CAS. UCAV not great at terrain hugging CAS in a contested environment.

The advantage with Helicopters is that they can hover still, move left and right , take cover behind physical features and obstacles.
Helicopters can also fly very low very slow. A low flying slow helicopter is very difficult to differentiate from ground clutter.
Indian developed Helicopters like Rudra, LCH, etc. have a very potent EW suite.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

The advantage with Helicopters is that they can hover still, move left and right , take cover behind physical features and obstacles.
Helicopters can also fly very low very slow. A low flying slow helicopter is very difficult to differentiate from ground clutter.
Indian developed Helicopters like Rudra, LCH, etc. have a very potent EW suite.

Apart from hover, all the rest can be for airplanes as well. With airplanes you get much better fuel efficiency, and they are better at evading incoming missiles.

 

[Roland55]

No news...cool pics

 

[HariPrasad-1]

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Please have a look at this Dummy Version of Upgraded BrahMos NG Missile on Dummy Tejas Showcased at Yelahanka Air Base in Bengaluru. Here itself we know that Brahmos NG will be there on Tejas.

Which leads me to 3 scenarios:-

• 1)MK-1A might have a higher weight certified Pylon for the aircraft.
• 2)Brahmos NG will be light or be made light enough to be able to fit on the Tejas Pylon.
• 3) Will be mix of both No. 1 and No. 2

And also in any combat scenario, if Tejas will be using Brahmos NG for any type of Anti-shipping role than it will Carry atleast 2 missiles (1 on each wing).

Airforce version of Brahmos NG will be 1.2 tons. Land attack version eill be 1.5 tons. Both will have near hypersonic speed at Mach 4.5.

 

[Pazhassiraja]

No news...cool pics

Is this pic original? Is that an Indian Mig-21? I haven't seen such a camaou, hence asked. If it's not Indian Mig, can you please mention about the occasion in which these two came together, especially in the initial career of Tejas?

 

[vishnugupt]

No news...cool pics

Mig 21 and ++

 

[Roland55]

Is this pic original? Is that an Indian Mig-21? I haven't seen such a camaou, hence asked. If it's not Indian Mig, can you please mention about the occasion in which these two came together, especially in the initial career of Tejas?

Yes the pic is original and it is an Indian mig

Is this exact one, used to "supervise" the first test flights of the LCA.

Edit: it's a 21Bis btw

 

[MirageBlue]

Yes the pic is original and it is an Indian migView attachment 152077
Is this exact one, used to "supervise" the first test flights of the LCA.

Edit: it's a 21Bis btw

If there is any complaint about the Tejas Mk1 that I believe is genuine, it is that the designers constrained themselves far too much trying to make the Tejas a MiG-21 replacement.

The MiG-21 footprint was the baseline and in doing so, they made the Tejas even shorter than the MiG-21 in length. In foresight, a 1 meter longer Tejas Mk1 would've been a better design, with more room to include avionics for growth and possibly a fuel tank or two that would've increased range and endurance. Of course the Tejas Mk1 can as a result use all hardened structures that were designed for the MiG-21, but ideally it should have been kept the same length as the MiG-21 including the pitot probe.

 

[Whitecollar]

Can anyone update on how many MK1s delivered to IAF by HAL till date??

 

[Ar.gaurav28]

If there is any complaint about the Tejas Mk1 that I believe is genuine, it is that the designers constrained themselves far too much trying to make the Tejas a MiG-21 replacement.

The MiG-21 footprint was the baseline and in doing so, they made the Tejas even shorter than the MiG-21 in length. In foresight, a 1 meter longer Tejas Mk1 would've been a better design, with more room to include avionics for growth and possibly a fuel tank or two that would've increased range and endurance. Of course the Tejas Mk1 can as a result use all hardened structures that were designed for the MiG-21, but ideally it should have been kept the same length as the MiG-21 including the pitot probe.

Tejas mk2 will have almost same dimensions as mig21. As such tejas mk1 was supposed to have a trainer role only and proper combat fighter jet was supposed to be mk2 only!

 

[MirageBlue]

Can anyone update on how many MK1s delivered to IAF by HAL till date??

SP-35 has flown already, so that leaves just 1 final single seater that is yet to fly. Once they go through their Customer Acceptance Flights, they are handed over to the IAF.

So, by now it should be anywhere between 33-35 single seater Tejas Mk1s handed over to the IAF.

 

[lcafanboy]