LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[patriots]

can u post all the fuel tanks of tejas with capacity.

Tejas is qualified for
1.725ltr
2.800ltr
3.1200ltr
Sry for bad quality photos....all are subsonic drop tanks
Again last time a 1200 ltr drop tank fell diwn from sp7

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

DRDO Rolls Royce deal for Joint Development of a 110KN engine with india having the intellectual property rights (right to modify and export the technology) is getting closer and closer

 

[patriots]

DRDO Rolls Royce deal for Joint Development of a 110KN engine with india having the intellectual property rights (right to modify and export the technology) is getting closer and closer

The report says ,india will have the ip
But India will have to invest a lot

 

[prasadr14]

The report says ,india will have the ip
But India will have to invest a lot

Have no idea how this type of arrangement works?!

RR, already knows how to make engines.
Would this deal mean they would share their people with knowledge in making engines to help us?

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Have no idea how this type of arrangement works?!

RR, already knows how to make engines.
Would this deal mean they would share their people with knowledge in making engines to help us?

But india doesn’t have the IP rights DRDO or GTRE cannot modify the technology to fit with LCA Tejas or Jaguars

 

[patriots]

Have no idea how this type of arrangement works?!

RR, already knows how to make engines.
Would this deal mean they would share their people with knowledge in making engines to help us?

Drdo also has some experience .......bdw this will be jv means ,there will be a work share
Like we have workshare in brahmos...barak8....

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Drdo also has some experience .......bdw this will be jv means ,there will be a work share
Like we have workshare in brahmos...barak8....

Not just workshare but india will own the technology and have rights to modify and export it RR is sharing the IP for the first time maybe India is going to pay a huge amount but it’s worth

 

[patriots]

Not just workshare but india will own the technology and have rights to modify and export it RR is sharing the IP for the first time maybe India is going to pay a huge amount but it’s worth

Ya..hope for the best.....and there should be a time frame.......
In next-day s more information will come

 

[Bleh]

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Better photo...

can u post all the fuel tanks of tejas with capacity.

Now, we know that the 800lt drop-tank is for midboard pylon, below:

1200lt one are for inboard pylons you commonly see & the centreline drop-tanks are confusing... 725lt one is obviously this rarely used one. Apparently FOC jets can use it but never seen with one, probably because it can only add <200km range due to upoptimised for the drag increase.

I reckon that supersonic drop-tank from Aero India-19 is only 450lt & they're trying to come up with a drag optimised 710lt. (Info & diagram: DDR)

The 1200lt is being replaced by an optimised 1360lt DTP6 with minimal drag increase.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Have no idea how this type of arrangement works?!

RR, already knows how to make engines.
Would this deal mean they would share their people with knowledge in making engines to help us?

Don't think RR has the engines for 110KN+. I guess it's an attempt to get India to invest in Tempest. IP workshare will be conditional to India investing and committing an number to Tempest jets. The rewards would be IP for 110KN engine when in fee years, 120-140KN engine will become an norm.

They are smart. India can invest if provided some workshare in Tempest design. But will lead to too much duplication. We have Amca, plus we aren't still out of FGFA yet, F35 whispers and now this. Britain wants to go back to tech glory days riding on India's money as if looting India wasn't enough.

 

[ARVION]

Don't think RR has the engines for 110KN+. I guess it's an attempt to get India to invest in Tempest. IP workshare will be conditional to India investing and committing an number to Tempest jets. The rewards would be IP for 110KN engine when in fee years, 120-140KN engine will become an norm.

They are smart. India can invest if provided some workshare in Tempest design. But will lead to too much duplication. We have Amca, plus we aren't still out of FGFA yet, F35 whispers and now this. Britain wants to go back to tech glory days riding on India's money as if looting India wasn't enough.

Same thought here.

 

[IndianHawk]

Don't think RR has the engines for 110KN+. I guess it's an attempt to get India to invest in Tempest. IP workshare will be conditional to India investing and committing an number to Tempest jets. The rewards would be IP for 110KN engine when in fee years, 120-140KN engine will become an norm.

They are smart. India can invest if provided some workshare in Tempest design. But will lead to too much duplication. We have Amca, plus we aren't still out of FGFA yet, F35 whispers and now this. Britain wants to go back to tech glory days riding on India's money as if looting India wasn't enough.

Tempest would need adaptive cycle engine totally different technology.

 

[ARVION]

Tempest would need adaptive cycle engine totally different technology.

That why the core will come with a heavy price in a JV, see the tai tfx blunder's.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Tempest would need adaptive cycle engine totally different technology.

I am not talking of Tempests engine. India can still take part in Tempest JV without getting IP rights on that engine, if RR is ready to part with 110Kn engine which India needs for Amca. And that's what I believe they are planning on.

 

[IndianHawk]

I am not talking of Tempests engine. India can still take part in Tempest JV without getting IP rights on that engine, if RR is ready to part with 110Kn engine which India needs for Amca. And that's what I believe they are planning on.

Tempest size would be pretty similar to AMCA only slightly bigger as UK / sweden would need to export it hence it can't be much bigger or costly.

And at that size we could simply build AMCA derivatives for 6th gen needs.

 

[Ultramarine]

Oh, so it was never actually launched?
Isn't the Python capable of 20km+ ranged IRST guide passive homing hits?.. Can ASRAAAM do that?

ADA intended to launch the Python 5 and had a few carriage trials but the missile was never launched as the larger number of control surfaces caused vibrations at high mach numbers. They fiddled around quite a bit with it but the progress was slow and it seems to be not a priority anymore.

The service most probably go with the ASRAAM as the new NGCCM fleetwide as MBDA has been favorable to the IAF's terms. Besides like you mentioned about the Python, ASRAAM too can be guided passively via IRST and be cued with HMDS to significant distances. Add to that the sizeable stocks already in the works for the Jag fleet, the Tejas too will sport it in the coming years, as will some other platforms.

 

[Raj Malhotra]

RR has very advanced Engine Technology. EJ 200 is Basically RR. They also developed F136 for F35 but it was not accepted for production.

It will be a good tie up if it takes place. They can also be touched upon for IMRH Engines in future

 

[IndianHawk]

Lca service life is phenomenal. Just wow. All that overenginiring which made it bit overwheight will payback in tremendous life span.

 

[tsunami]

Lca service life is phenomenal. Just wow. All that overenginiring which made it bit overwheight will payback in tremendous life span.

9000

That's almost 40 years of service life with 240 hours of flying every year.

 

[IndianHawk]

9000

That's almost 40 years of service life with 240 hours of flying every year.

Yup and as indranil said it can only go up not down !!