LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[Mindrapper]

It is wise decision to cancel the 83 Mark 1A and go for MWF.

And Forget MWF for AMCA and so on ...

 

[Pulkit]

83 MK-1A is a must buy, else we'd end up with a useless production line meanwhile not gaining any additional experience in ramping up prod for a homemade fighter and expanding the supply chain.

Additionally, we need those to actually ramp up the squadron size. LCA Mk1 is a Good aircraft in the current form and can easily fit in the shoes of Mig 21. Mk1A will be better and I don't like to talk about Mk2 yet.

Heck they should also be buying an additional at least 60 LCA SPORT LIFT trainers (at least 2 Sqds for IAF and 1 for IN),

2 squadrons for IAF and 1 for Navy is a huge number. I will suggest 15 for IAF and 8 for the Navy.

We should be looking to have at least a yearly production capacity of 24 fighters for local customers plus 6-8 for per year for export customers. An eventual peak production rate of at least 30-32 is a must.

That's never gonna happen, with the current orders and export potential. The best they can achieve eevn with another line is 20..... (Rate claimed by HAL/2)

With 36 Rafale coming by 2023, we can defer 36-54 additional orders of the Rafale till 2023-24 if we are worried about budgets. LCA must take priority.

I am not in favor of additional Rafale. They cost a little too much. We should add additional Su 30MKI instead.

Yes, LCA must take priority.

 

[Shekhar Singh]

SP21 will take it's first flight on 13th March.

 

[Emperor Kalki]

SP21 will take it's first flight on 13th March.

Source?....................................

 

[Mindrapper]

Hey guys? Any news on when Flying Daggers would be moved to a forward base? I read somewhere that they are planning to move it by the end of this year.

 

[rone]

Hey guys? Any news on when Flying Daggers would be moved to a forward base? I read somewhere that they are planning to move it by the end of this year.

No they will move to new base only after creation of new squ of tejas FOC I hope like first IOC squ this will also start with 4 birds

 

[Mindrapper]

No they will move to new base only after creation of new squ of tejas FOC I hope like first IOC squ this will also start with 4 birds

Hopefully! 2nd squadron was supposed to have gotten inducted by this month but guess there has been some delay with the last minute software update from ADA. Had the LCA's been inducted on time, It would have been a Tejas that downed the F-16.

 

[Babloo Singh]

Ok Guys, in Bangalore keep your eyes and ears open for SP- 21 tomorrow....

 

[rone]

Hopefully! 2nd squadron was supposed to have gotten inducted by this month but guess there has been some delay with the last minute software update from ADA. Had the LCA's been inducted on time, It would have been a Tejas that downed the F-16.

The delay due to FCS ( fire control system) rewritten enteirly added few new features to it LCA FOC comes with some new capability that lacked in IAF I don't know exactly what but my hunch is buddy lazing for long ranged BVR shot's so mki lazing for LCA the mini fighter can get in more closer with its low RCS and make a kill shot ( its not verified but my strong belief it will be the only possible request made by IAF in last moment with out altering FOC regulations)

 

[HariPrasad-1]

When ever I see someone use the word “teething problem”, I immediately assume that the person using it doesn’t know what it takes to complete a project end to end, especially green field projects.

Since HAL & ADA are literally writing the text book for aeronautical development in india for the current century, I think we can give them some leeway even if they miss the mark by a bit.

Journey is as important as the end result.

Very correct. +1......................

 

[Lancer]

Additionally, we need those to actually ramp up the squadron size. LCA Mk1 is a Good aircraft in the current form and can easily fit in the shoes of Mig 21. Mk1A will be better and I don't like to talk about Mk2 yet.

2 squadrons for IAF and 1 for Navy is a huge number. I will suggest 15 for IAF and 8 for the Navy.

That's never gonna happen, with the current orders and export potential. The best they can achieve eevn with another line is 20..... (Rate claimed by HAL/2)

I am not in favor of additional Rafale. They cost a little too much. We should add additional Su 30MKI instead.

Yes, LCA must take priority.

More Rafales are a foregone conclusion. The only question is how many we end up buying, and how specifically we plan to buy and build them.

 

[ladder]

Ok Guys, in Bangalore keep your eyes and ears open for SP- 21 tomorrow....

Any Update?


ooooo 30 Char ooooooooooooooo

 

[vishnugupt]

Any Update?


ooooo 30 Char ooooooooooooooo

May be end of the day
or may be the end of Week
or end of month
or end year
or end of the decade
or end of the century
or may be the end of our life
Or may be they are waiting for Corona outbreak in Bangaluru so that Government will declare holidays for these screwdriver specialists.

 

[dude00720]

Guys, Hope this helps. There is no problem in 83 Mk1A order.

 

[vishnugupt]

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Guys, Hope this helps. There is no problem in 83 Mk1A order.

Hope, this one will also help

I don't understand why people find it difficult to understand that our armed forces are "kickback hungry" forces.

 

[Narasimh]

Hope, this one will also help

I don't understand why people find it difficult to understand that our armed forces are "kickback hungry" forces.

Who will get the kickbacks here? IAF top brass including Air chief, the lower rung officers, vigilance officers, MoD,bureaucrats, the defense minister himself, the prime minister.. all of them have to be in loop to get kickbacks. Nobody will allow the other to have it all alone. So you think this level of corruption is taking place under current govt.?

 

[Suryavanshi]

May be end of the day
or may be the end of Week
or end of month
or end year
or end of the decade
or end of the century
or may be the end of our life
Or may be they are waiting for Corona outbreak in Bangaluru so that Government will declare holidays for these screwdriver specialists.

Ok Guys, in Bangalore keep your eyes and ears open for SP- 21 tomorrow....

Absolute state of Indian Aviation complex.

Random question by concerned folks
Q. - Why is the HAL so bad, why is the Indian Aviation so bad in General?

A. - Ass blasted Jingo who's father works in PSU starts typing with a Heavy breath.

"You're misinformed Bro HAL is very competent they have screw driven bazillion aircraft and Manufactured 1 indigenous product."

*Starts listing out products that HAL made using Screw Drivery tech.

"So u see HAL is the best thing that happend to India u are clearly misinformed bro, all cheetos seller do is eat away your money".

"U should be thankful to HAL workers who have mastered the art of Screw drivery over the years".

"Gov should triple workers salary so that they may finally start working on 18/ years production rate that was promised".

"Cause clearly screw Drivery takes a lot of skill".

" No private sector works overtime during war time unlike Gov sector ".

*Runs out of Ammunitions during kargil war and had to beg kalayani.

" oh no no bro u dont get workers were Dissatisfied with with salary so they had to resort to strikes which resulted in shortage"
"If workers were paid enough they would drop Ammunitions like they drop dung in the bathrrom."
" Kalayani is obviously a crook"

"LAL SALAM COMRADE"

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Lmao
Do we make Turbofan- No
Do we make Turboshaft- No
Do we make Turboprop- No
Do we make Avionics- No

What do we make- Fuselage

Where is Sp 21?

October- Keep your eyes in the sky

November- Keep your eyes in the sky

December- Keep your eyes in the sky

January- Keep your eyes in the sky

February- Keep your eyes in the sky

March- Keep your eyes in the sky.


Good for nothing state enterprise

 

[Atcjurvin]

Absolute state of Indian Aviation complex.

Random question by concerned folks
Q. - Why is the HAL so bad, why is the Indian Aviation so bad in General?

A. - Ass blasted Jingo who's father works in PSU starts typing with a Heavy breath.

"You're misinformed Bro HAL is very competent they have screw driven bazillion aircraft and Manufactured 1 indigenous product."

*Starts listing out products that HAL made using Screw Drivery tech.

"So u see HAL is the best thing that happend to India u are clearly misinformed bro, all cheetos seller do is eat away your money".

"U should be thankful to HAL workers who have mastered the art of Screw drivery over the years".

"Gov should triple workers salary so that they may finally start working on 18/ years production rate that was promised:.

"Cause clearly screw Drivery takes a lot of skill".

" No private sector works overtime during war time unlike Gov sector ".

*Runs out of Ammunitions during kargil war and had to beg kalayani.

" oh no no bro u dont get workers were Dissatisfied with with salary so they had to resort to strikes which resulted in shortage"
"If workers were paid enough they would drop Ammunitions like they drop dung in the bathrrom."
" Kalayani is obviously a crook"

"LAL SALAM COMRADE"

-------------------------------------------------------

Lmao
Do we make Turbofan- No
Do we make Turboshaft- No
Do we make Turboprop- No
Do we make Avionics- No

What do we make- Fuselage

Where is Sp 21?

October- Keep your eyes in the sky

November- Keep your eyes in the sky

December- Keep your eyes in the sky

January- Keep your eyes in the sky

February- Keep your eyes in the sky

March- Keep your eyes in the sky.


Good for nothing state enterprise

Yeah keep looking at the sky just like Muslims look for their imaginary God.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Fast Forward 2030

"FOC for MWF to be signed during defence Expo 2030"

Fast forward 2032

"Bangalore Keep your eyes in the Sky for MWF sp 14"

Fast forward 2050

"Ahamdudilla bros welcome to Islamic state of Hindustan"

 

[Atcjurvin]

Fast Forward 2030

"FOC for MWF to be signed during defence Expo 2030"

Fast forward 2032

"Bangalore Keep your eyes in the Sky for MWF sp 14"

Fast forward 2050

"Ahamdudilla bros welcome to Islamic state of Hindustan"

Great then we will fight on imaginary flying donkeys after 2050.