Korean KF-X Fighter Program

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South Korea has completely imdegenized most of their land and naval system. Their air force is still dependent on USA, but 10-15 years down the line they will be completely indegeneous. Also they have a strong electronics base within their country, which helps.
 

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We must admit for a nation that size they have been doing great what even we aren't able to do.

Tanks fighter jet howitzers assault rifle they are making everything while we continue to import.

Three Cheers for Indian defense Industry
All developed countries have strong defence industry it's a fact.
 

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This Korean fighter is what India's AMCA will be, if it built, whenever it is built. The KF-X has the GE-414 engines, it has a Korean built AESA radar and MBDA has helped integrate the Meteor BVR missile with this Korean radar. It also has the German developed Taurus air to surface missile integrated. And while the Koreans call it a 4.5G fighter, in it's Block 3 iteration it will have an internal weapons bay and RAM coating to provide some degree of stealth even if the basic design is not stealth oriented. It shows you how far ahead the Koreans have reached.
 

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This Korean fighter is what India's AMCA will be, if it built, whenever it is built. The KF-X has the GE-414 engines, it has a Korean built AESA radar and MBDA has helped integrate the Meteor BVR missile with this Korean radar. It also has the German developed Taurus air to surface missile integrated. And while the Koreans call it a 4.5G fighter, in it's Block 3 iteration it will have an internal weapons bay and RAM coating to provide some degree of stealth even if the basic design is not stealth oriented. It shows you how far ahead the Koreans have reached.
It is actually SAAB built AESA radar.
 

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It is actually SAAB built AESA radar.
SAAB is definitely involved but ELTA and Leonardo are also involved in this radar, heaviest technical support probably from ELTA. That is the reason that the Koreans are worried that Muslim countries such as Malaysia may not buy this fighter because of the Israeli input.

Anyway, the first prototype production is planned for 2021. Hats off to the Koreans for progressing this fast. LRDE should learn a few lessons.
 

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We must admit for a nation that size they have been doing great what even we aren't able to do.

Tanks fighter jet howitzers assault rifle they are making everything while we continue to import.

Three Cheers for Indian defense Industry
The real achievement has been naval systems.

In early 1990s, India had 12 new submarines(8 Kilo + 4 U209) and SoKo had 3 midget submarines (WW2 era).

By 2027 India will add no more than 6 to that number ( Kalvari), while SoKo will have 27 subs when KSS 3 program ends later this decade.

Not to forget they've exported 6 already.
 
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The real achievement has been naval systems.

In early 1990s, India had 12 new submarines(8 Kilo + 4 U209) and SoKo had 3 midget submarines (WW2 era).

By 2027 India will add no more than 6 to that number ( Kalvari), while SoKo will have 27 subs when KSS 3 program ends later this decade.

Not to forget they've exported 6 already.
Damn they are competing for our nxt gen sub project though won't be considered.

There is a lot more like their tanks howitzers rifles etc etc
 

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We must admit for a nation that size they have been doing great what even we aren't able to do.

Tanks fighter jet howitzers assault rifle they are making everything while we continue to import.

Three Cheers for Indian defense Industry
There is no need to feel sorry for Indian defense industry.
If India agrees to be an "ally" of US, transfer the war time command authority of India force to pentagon, and then sell the majority share of India companies to Wall street, you can have the same achievement. Yes, that is exactly Koreans have achieved: an assembling line of NATO weapons.
 

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There is no need to feel sorry for Indian defense industry.
If India agrees to be an "ally" of US, transfer the war time command authority of India force to pentagon, and then sell the majority share of India companies to Wall street, you can have the same achievement. Yes, that is exactly Koreans have achieved: an assembling line of NATO weapons.
:frown::frown::frown:
 

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Nothing grow in isolation neither technology nor industry or product. Politician and research agency do work as par country needs and Armed forces give requirement according to country capability in technological field. Markva Tank was a joke when it was first inducted by Israel Almost everything was imported and still lots of loophole but Israeli Army had foresight and believed in it by keep on adding new capability as well as local technology. On the other hand, IA want Arjun in hooks of trials so neither DRDO scrap the program nor start a new program for future requirements . IA neither abandon the project nor accept Arjun They are just keeping it in hook.
Galil rifle is a copy of AK-47 same as INSAS except 5.56 caliber which is given by IA. IA has never given clear requirement when its come to Gun just to keep DRDO in hook. ( single barrel. double barrel. interchangeable barrel 5.56, 6.9, 7.2, a total mess ).
IA gave GSQR for 100mm mortar which was impossible to fulfill ( specially made to ensure failure of Indigenous project ) everybody knows this from start that this project is going nowhere but it took Israeli to say it is impossible to build then after IA realized.
IA keep on insisting upon TATRA truck due to kick back money. They never rope in TATA or Ashok leyland despite of their repetitive request.
China's j-20 get IOC in 2017 ( one can say questionable) immediately they started serial production despite of jet is not a complete product and still built 50 jets by 2020 But same you can not see for LCA ( FOC in 2019), LCH ( IOC 2017 ), NAG ( zillions of successful trials) , Astra (completed trials 2017), Arjun, ATAGs, Dhanush, MSMC (few orders), AEW&CS ( 3rd not inducted, no follow on orders ), Killing own HTT-40 program.
In any foreign deal Armed force actively try to bypass Indian defense industry just to make sure that we should left deprived for technology and keep importing same junk for generation to come.

If Armed force keep on behaving like this then even in next 100 years despite of all technological advancement, our armed forces will remain beggar. They simply don't want to put their shoes in mud and keep lecturing like Megalomaniac
 

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