Know Your 'Rafale'

[H.A.]

Guys its a request please discuss issues related to the MMRCA tender only, with 121 pages and #1808 posts it has already become difficult to keep a track of this thread and the events related to the tender.

 

[panduranghari]

The nuclear deal has its own importance

We basically needed URANIUM We are NOT desperate for foreign reactors

Now we are cleverly buying as much Uranium from all countries and storing them for future

Our Reactors though small in size but are far cheaper in costs than what these Americans and
French are quoting

So let them wait !!! We can wait In the meanwhile we make our own reactors which will be of 700 MWe size

Then there is a WHOLE question of utilising our Thorium resources and making more
Fast breeder reactors which will happen later ie after 2020

The breeding time for nuclear reactors is over 15 years. If we are looking at energy requirements in 2030, massive investment is required today.

 

[Zebra]

From where does this Mahindra gets all it's funds :confused2: ?

It's a US$14.4 billion group.

 

[Yusuf]

Mahindra is cash rich. They also have Lon winced ventured into defence and have partnership with BAE with Mahindra Land Forces System.

 

[anoop_mig25]

its off-topic but what did reliance did in kaveri basin due to which lots of them are against reliance . i searched on net but it wasnt helpfull . so if anybody just reply it would be helpfull

 

[nitesh]

Gripen's true performance:

http://files.newsnetz.ch/upload//1/2/12332.pdf

 

[Oracle]

its off-topic but what did reliance did in kaveri basin due to which lots of them are against reliance . i searched on net but it wasnt helpfull . so if anybody just reply it would be helpfull

Kaveri Basin is an offshore oil rig, not the Kaveri engine DRDO is developing.

 

[p2prada]

If you are talking about Reliance industry and Gas then it is the Krishna-Godaveri Basin. It is actually Cauvery, not Kaveri.

We are completely OT though. I would actually recommend Mods deleting all the useless posts without Rafale in them.

 

[Cola]

http://files.newsnetz.ch/upload//1/2/12332.pdf

Armand, I'd be embarrassed if I had to peddle Rafale.

 

[thakur_ritesh]

cant believe i have a near 2,000 replies to read here, but will, it is indeed such a grand news.

good news, and my i say at last!

one hopes the negotiations happen quick and fast, and the contract does get signed quick enough.

i think i was one of the first to know about it.

 

[JAISWAL]

India has made powerful enemies by selecting Dassault | idrw.org
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India has made powerful enemies by selecting Dassault
.
india is not likely to bow to Anglo-American
pressure to revisit the MMRCA decision in favour
of Dassault-Rafale. By deciding on the basis of
technical parameters alone, India satisfied its own
needs, but quite ignored the diplomatic fall
out .Price negotiation is what remains of the
crucial MMRCA deal. It's a complicated process.
Nevertheless, it appears unlikely that the decision
to buy the Rafale itself will be revisited. Given how
drawn-out and difficult the choice was, the
government is unlikely to add further
controversy by admitting it made a mistake,
which will be the consequence if the MMRCA
competition is reopened. The selection apparently
involved testing the platforms on around 600
odd technical parameters. This is the key
argument made by proponents of the deal: that
the deal was so carefully and technically handled
that it should not be questioned.
.
..................for full article please visit above link.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Why dont we have a live telecast of 1 squadron o every MMRCA going up against the other in Red-Flag to see who really wins?

 

[Armand2REP]

I disagree that France has less political weight than Russia. We have the same P5 seat, our economy dwarfs theirs, we are second in the world for international aid, have a global military presence, overthrow dictators across Africa and Russia is losing its last overseas base. More soft power and hard power = France win.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Your reactors per kwh cost don't come close to EPR.

I suggest when you give sweeping statements you add a link to a source, that way we can learn or find out if you always only yap! I think its mostly the later.

 

[p2prada]

I disagree that France has less political weight than Russia. We have the same P5 seat, our economy dwarfs theirs, we are second in the world for international aid, have a global military presence, overthrow dictators across Africa and Russia is losing its last overseas base. More soft power and hard power = France win.

I know that they have enough nukes to blow up the world many times over. I also remember 2006 when Russia cut off gas supplies to Europe because of problems with Ukraine. I also remember it wasn't Ukraine who had issues, but the whole of Europe.

Russia is part of OPEC, France isn't.

Underestimate Russia at your own peril.

 

[arundo]

I know that they have enough nukes to blow up the world many times over. I also remember 2006 when Russia cut off gas supplies to Europe because of problems with Ukraine. I also remember it wasn't Ukraine who had issues, but the whole of Europe.

Russia is part of OPEC, France isn't.

Underestimate Russia at your own peril.

European countries are working on reducing dependency of Russian gas.
The first pipeline could go directly from Caspian Sea though Turkey to Europe
The 2nd one (perhaps) from North Africa (Algeria) to Southern Europe.

We'll see.

 

[ankur26888]

The Rafale's long flight to India

Long after the streets emptied that chilly winter
evening in December 1981, lights were burning on
the fifth floor of Vayu Bhavan in the elite Operations
Branch of the Indian Air Force. Worrying the
brightest thinkers of IAF was a brash new arrival in
the subcontinental skies. The US had just announced the sale of 40 F-16 fighters to Pakistan,
giving the Pakistan Fiza'ya (as the Pakistan Air
Force styles itself) a fighter potent, fast and agile
enough to upset the air power balance in the
subcontinent. That F-16 purchase unleashed a set
of Indian reactions that culminated in last week's decision to negotiate with French Dassault Aviation
for 126 Rafale medium multi-role combat aircraft,
MMRCA for short. India moved quickly to counter the F-16 with the
Mirage 2000 and MiG-29 fighters. Soon after
Squadron Leader Shahid Javed landed Pakistan's
first F-16 at Sargodha Air Base on January 15,
1983, New Delhi signed a contract with Dassault for
49 Mirage 2000s. IAF pilots began training in France, and in 1985 the first Mirage 2000s joined
the IAF fleet. This was South Asia's first true "multi-
role" fighter, good for strike missions, electronic
warfare support, and also fast and manoeuvrable
enough for air-to-air combat. From the outset, IAF
pilots relished the Mirage 2000 as well as the relationship with Dassault.

Http://business-standard.com/india/news/the-rafale\s-long-flight-to-india/464320/

 

[Armand2REP]

Armand, I'd be embarrassed if I had to peddle Rafale.

Gripen performed worse than the legacy Hornets... how embarrassing. Of course Rafale dominates everything.

 

[Armand2REP]

Gripen's true performance:

http://files.newsnetz.ch/upload//1/2/12332.pdf

Scratch another win for Rafale.

 

[p2prada]

Are there any announcements of Rafale's MLU package?

The new Spectra package, IRST etc? We only know about the AESA.