Kaveri Engine

[tejas warrior]

I am not sure if they invested 1billion or just charged 1billion as consultation fees and service charges

For a successful Kaveri engine, even $1billion consulting fee is also worthful.

 

[airtel]

Does Safran need to learn variable cycle ffom India? Can't they just import on of the GE F414 engines costing 6 million and reverse engineer it or order some other US plane like F35 and reverse engineer its engine? What is so special in kaveri? Kaveri is good except for metallurgy but not some fantastic engine

3 things >

1)GE F414 engines are not Variable cycle Engines .
2)F-35 dont have variable cycle Engines .
2)you can not do reverse Engineering with jet Engines .

 

[BON PLAN]

Sure. But doesn't it take 1-2 years to design/build new engine and then another 1-2 years of flights on IL-76/Mig29 before a pilot will put his life at risk with a sole unproven engine?

Sure. It's strange a so short delay. Is it the real truth or a journalist dream ?

Too short to be true I'm afraid. Or the Kaveri program was nearly the end and lacks just some (french) reffinements...

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

France do it when we stole for some hours a civilian russian broken engine on a french airport during the 50th ....
We opened it and take all pics and peasures possible. It help !

China did the same with russian jet engine. It's not worthfull so far, but until some years China will be the 5th engine maker of the world.

US, Britain, France, Russia, then 5th will be India with Kaveri

And 6th will be China with WS-10 or whatever.

 

[BON PLAN]

Frankly speaking, it takes around 10 years to develop any aero engine and not 2 to 4 years you mentioned and that too based on a proven engine from scratch it may take even longer.

You're right, but Safran specialists said it remain 25 to 30% work to be made. So 2 to 3 years is possible. Even if it's hard to understand.

 

[BON PLAN]

Does Safran need to learn variable cycle ffom India? Can't they just import on of the GE F414 engines costing 6 million and reverse engineer it or order some other US plane like F35 and reverse engineer its engine? What is so special in kaveri? Kaveri is good except for metallurgy but not some fantastic engine

It's an opportunity !
And do you really think GE and USA will agree to sell us one or two engines (I remember a chineese request in the 80th : Thay want to baught just and only 2 Mirage 2000 !!! ...) ?
NO. They don't want to give us some sensible datas.

 

[BON PLAN]

30 character rule sucks.

NO. Easy .

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Rajput class in Indian navy are more of test beds for new technologies, The Kaveri marine will go for corvettes in future ..

Guys plz read this it says kaveri marine is generating 12 mw and will be used in next rajput class destroyer. http://www.cassindia.com/inner_page.php?id=46&&task=military

 

[Prayash]

It will be a pleasure to see the chinese face when pv1 flys with kaveri and j20 will be still struggling with it smoky engine:biggrin2:
I am praying to lord jaganath for kaveri's success! Good luck Gtre

 

[Prayash]

Kaveri news from #AeroIndia2017

 

[Prayash]

Manohar Parrikar confirms French help for revival of Indian Kaveri engine
https://t.co/SlYsQmKZPu

 

[lcafanboy]

Kaveri news from #AeroIndia2017

I was the first to confirm on this forum that Safran and France will be helping us with Jet engine technology and will deliver working Kaveri engine withing 4 years. Several members were skeptical and told that no one parts with their crowning jewel. Now here is the confirmation from horse's mouth.

 

[lcafanboy]

Manohar Parrikar confirms French help for revival of Indian Kaveri engine
By Manu Pubby, ET Bureau | Updated: 14 Feb, 2017, 17:59 hrs IST

• Rafale fighter deal likely to be used to fund it, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar has said, adding that India will requires a large quantity of engines in the future, including over 5,000 for helicopters itself.
  
  Parrikar said that French firm Safran - which has developed the M88 engines for the Rafale - will be using technology from its engines that go on the Rafale to revive the Indian project. The minister has confirmed a story first reported by ET on July 4, 2016 about the Kaveri revival plan.
  
  As reported by ET, leading manufacturer Safran has finalised a $2 million consultancy agreement to revive the project for combat planes and unmanned aircraft. French experts have studied Kaveri gas turbine project -- which was stalled in 2014 -- and have draw a joint development plan.
• France has offered a one billion euro investment to revive the combat jet engine project, proposing a joint development plan to use offsets credits that will come from the Rafale fighter jet deal.
  
  The Rafale deal has a offset obligation of 50 per cent of the contract cost, which translating into over 3 billion euros. Several rounds of discussions have already taken place between French company Safran and Indian developers since January.
  
  The Kaveri engine project was more of less abandoned for aviation use in 2014 due to power shortcomings. While the consultancy agreement will lead to a detailed plan, initial assessments by French experts has brought out that 25-30 per cent more work is needed for it to get combat worthy.
• http://m.economictimes.com/industry...indian-kaveri-engine/articleshow/57145943.cms

 

[Prashant12]

#AeroIndia2017 Cross section of the Kaveri engine.

 

[G10]

#AeroIndia2017 Cross section of the Kaveri engine.

I don't see a "Cross Section" . For cross section that thing should be cut. Just to correct you. Don't give up on your enthusiasm.

 

[wuzetian]

#AeroIndia2017 Cross section of the Kaveri engine.

Thank you for the picture. But I won't call this a cross section of the engine.

 

[wuzetian]

#AeroIndia2017 Cross section of the Kaveri engine.

In this picture we can see flex boards of single crystal blade technology

 

[Prayash]

#AeroIndia2017 Cross section of the Kaveri engine.

Such a complex, cool, complicated thing! Isko dekh ke pata chalta he aero engine banane me kyun time lagta hai.

 

[Scrutator]

In this picture we can see flex boards of single crystal blade technology

How are you able to tell that Single Crystal Blades are present? Aren't they inside the core?

 

[PD_Solo]

Such a complex, cool, complicated thing! Isko dekh ke pata chalta he aero engine banane me kyun time lagta hai.

Yes it is...

Aero engine is one of the most complex engineering feat.Decades and billions of money goes into its making.

And we have done well as a beginner.

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