Kaveri Engine

[TPFscopes]

here is official advertisement of Research Associates in DRDO >> it is available on DRDO website . source = https://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/English/Advt_JRF-RA_INMAS-Apr-2017.pdf

you can check it , there is Age /fee relaxation for SC/ST but there are no caste based reservations .

Don't worry, I'll provide a snap of that advertisement possibly by this weekend. It clearly have a chart explaining the vacancies.

 

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there is no caste based reservations in DRDO & ISRO .........for posts of Engineers & scientists .

Can You post the official notification in which 3 seats were reserved for SC/ST ?

there is a reservation for obc, sc/st in drdo....

but not all seats are reserved....

sometimes drdo give advertisement to fill only the backlogs vacancies for obc/st/sc...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzDh435CQG8xOGZhSTVZWVhSX1U/view

 

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It is better to use indian engine with 500 hours of life than foreign with 2000 hours of life (GE F404).

iaf is strongly backing the kaveri engine , earlier they even refuse to use the french core on jv engine and insists only on kaveri....we can be sure kaveri is giving very good performence.....just the thrust need to improve and some safty certification is left ...if f404 can be improved on thrust , surely kaveri too...
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[TPFscopes]

iaf is strongly backing the kaveri engine , earlier they even refuse to use the french core on jv engine and insists only on kaveri....we can be sure kaveri is giving very good performence.....just the thrust need to improve and some safty certification is left ...if f404 can be improved on thrust , surely kaveri too...
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Certifications will not be an issue if all specifications will be met Bcoz SAFRAN is also responsible for providing all certifications after the development.

I have a doubt whether Safran will use Dassault's RAFALE as the testbed for KAVERI GTX or GTRE will ask for mig-29.

 

[airtel]

there is a reservation for obc, sc/st in drdo....

but not all seats are reserved....

sometimes drdo give advertisement to fill only the backlogs vacancies for obc/st/sc...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzDh435CQG8xOGZhSTVZWVhSX1U/view

Ok thanks for the Information .

 

[lcafanboy]

India will ruin Su-30MKI Fleet with Kaveri engines: Russian Defence Analysts
Published August 6, 2017 SOURCE: RAUNAK KUNDE / NEWS BEAT / IDRW.ORG

Reacting to India media reports that India and France have discussion to develop a 125kN Kaveri engine to replace AL-31FP engines in Su-30MKI , s Andrei Frolov, editor-in-chief of the magazine “Export of Arms” , a researcher at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies told Russian media that India will ruin its Su-30MKI Fleet with Kaveri engine upgrade and is a rather strange step. Frolov also said that ” India will require services of Irkut Corporation the Orginal makers of Su-30MKI to carry out engine replacement but also doubted if Russian companies will agree to help India coordinate such changes”. Frolov also added that ” We have given enough Transfer of Technology to Indian companies and Indians have practically mastered the independent production of the Su-30 and they might not require Russian help at all”. in the end he was also doubful if the development will be seriously pursued since Indo-French Kaveri engine for LCA-Tejas is yet to be developed . Frolov also pointed out that India and Russian recently signed a contract to improve spares for AL-31FP engines along with its gradual localization. Report agreed that India might want to reduce its dependence on Russia in support of its Su-30MKI but also warned that non-authorised changes will result in Russian companies pulling out of sales and service support.

http://idrw.org/india-will-ruin-su-30mki-fleet-with-kaveri-engines-russian-defence-analysts/ .

 

[SanjeevM]

Bhai engine toh abhi bana nahi, loose motions pehle lag gayi iss Russian ko. Engine ready ho jaye pehle, baad mai sochenge kya karna hai.

 

[captscooby81]

What you said in point 3 is absolutely right ..My own family has someone who did his B.Tech Aeronautical from india and did is M.S from ASU and Doctorate dissertation funded by US AFSOR today working as consulting engineer in Aerodynamics for a company which works with major players in aircraft manufacturing ..i am sure there is plenty of Indian talent which is available in USA outside the govt control with MNCs in varied domain s ..But we need to find out some right options to make them feel working in india is as good rewarding financially and technologically as USA ..

Off late the chinese are doing the same sending maximum students to USA and then asking them to return back to their country after some substantial experience in industries where they are lacking ..

We need more funding for research based universities ...No more this theory oriented bullshit educational institutions.

No. There are multiple reasons for this:

1. Scientists and engineers working on critical tech. are state assets. Any engineer/scientist that has worked in these areas of technology will be prohibited to work for a foreign entity to defeat espionage. Even private technology companies have clauses that do not allow employees to work in a similar project for a competing firm.

2. How is the government going to justify spending money on hiring foreigners? Will they be working inside HAL/ADA, DRDO, OFB? If yes, then majority of their teams would still be the same people who are not delivering now. Secondly, these organizations are have their budgets and are autonomous to a large extent and any attempt to breach their autonomy will be resisted. These are strike-khor sarkaari babus we are talking about.

3. The way U.S attracts foreign workers is via its education system and then employs them. Many of the scientists working in NASA have completed their higher education from American universities and found employment there. Money is not the only factor, life in a lot of western nations is better than in India and they can find better academic as well as professional opportunities there.

4. You want to make India an attractive destination for foreign workforce? Overhaul the higher education system, get investments from the industry, improve law and order and increase the standard of living. It is a tall order.



Forget it. The only way we can let Russian engineers is with Russian government consent. You can not treat scientists like mercenaries. And there is no way Russia is lending its engineers to destroy their largest aviation market.

Placements? Dude, PSUs do not hire like this. For junior positions you need to clear an exam and then you get a job for life.

 

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India will ruin Su-30MKI Fleet with Kaveri engines: Russian Defence Analysts
Published August 6, 2017 SOURCE: RAUNAK KUNDE / NEWS BEAT / IDRW.ORG

Reacting to India media reports that India and France have discussion to develop a 125kN Kaveri engine to replace AL-31FP engines in Su-30MKI , s Andrei Frolov, editor-in-chief of the magazine “Export of Arms” , a researcher at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies told Russian media that India will ruin its Su-30MKI Fleet with Kaveri engine upgrade and is a rather strange step. Frolov also said that ” India will require services of Irkut Corporation the Orginal makers of Su-30MKI to carry out engine replacement but also doubted if Russian companies will agree to help India coordinate such changes”. Frolov also added that ” We have given enough Transfer of Technology to Indian companies and Indians have practically mastered the independent production of the Su-30 and they might not require Russian help at all”. in the end he was also doubful if the development will be seriously pursued since Indo-French Kaveri engine for LCA-Tejas is yet to be developed . Frolov also pointed out that India and Russian recently signed a contract to improve spares for AL-31FP engines along with its gradual localization. Report agreed that India might want to reduce its dependence on Russia in support of its Su-30MKI but also warned that non-authorised changes will result in Russian companies pulling out of sales and service support.

http://idrw.org/india-will-ruin-su-30mki-fleet-with-kaveri-engines-russian-defence-analysts/ .

somebody tell the russians that its the indians who build this fighter , otherwise no one was even looking at their su27....

 

[TPFscopes]

Yes, the information was correct that the SAFRAN has decided to produce overall 4 Prototypes of modified KAVERI GTX with GTRE and take one Engine to its french test facility while other 3 remaining in India.
Hopefully, GTRE will take it to Russia for another testing to ensure the quality.
Also, DRDO asked MoD to provide a mig-29 for testing once Engine passed test on 4 Engine Aircraft testbed.

Another good news is that the Project is progressing ahead of its schedule.

 

[BON PLAN]

somebody tell the russians that its the indians who build this fighter , otherwise no one was even looking at their su27....

Are you sure india is producing all components? I doubt.
Forging parts and blades for engine?
Some electronic cards for FBW and radars?

 

[BON PLAN]

Yes, the information was correct that the SAFRAN has decided to produce overall 4 Prototypes of modified KAVERI GTX with GTRE and take one Engine to its french test facility while other 3 remaining in India.
Hopefully, GTRE will take it to Russia for another testing to ensure the quality.
Also, DRDO asked MoD to provide a mig-29 for testing once Engine passed test on 4 Engine Aircraft testbed.

Another good news is that the Project is progressing ahead of its schedule.

it's a win win labour.
The engine tested in france will also be used to see if the variable flow technology of Kaveri is good. Maybe for a KaveriM88 ...

 

[TPFscopes]

it's a win win labour.
The engine tested in france will also be used to see if the variable flow technology of Kaveri is good. Maybe for a KaveriM88 ...

It may also be win win situation for French too because they also want a higher thurst Engine to Upgrade their fleet because M88 already reached its maximum efficiency.

 

[TPFscopes]

Are you sure india is producing all components? I doubt.
Forging parts and blades for engine?
Some electronic cards for FBW and radars?

I don't think so...

of the 43,000 items that go into the Sukhoi-30MKI, some 5,800 consist of large metal plates, castings and forgings that must contractually be provided by Russia.

he contract stipulates that standard components like nuts, bolts, screws and rivets — a total of 7,146 items — must all be sourced from Russia.

https://www.page3nashik.com/hot-happening/news/look-su-30mki-sukhoi-production-line-nashik-plant/

 

[Vijyes]

It may also be win win situation for French too because they also want a higher thurst Engine to Upgrade their fleet because M88 already reached its maximum efficiency.

M88 can reach EJ2000 level - 100kN. It hasn't yet reached its capacity. EJ2000 is the capacity limit for older generation engine

 

[TPFscopes]

M88 can reach EJ2000 level - 100kN. It hasn't yet reached its capacity. EJ2000 is the capacity limit for older generation engine

Will you please share the data to back your statement.
I already shared the snapshot of magazine which has interview of SAFRAN's CEO. You can find that on previous pages.

 

[Vijyes]

Will you please share the data to back your statement.
I already shared the snapshot of magazine which has interview of SAFRAN's CEO. You can find that on previous pages.

Can't Safran reverse engineer EJ2000? Since they already have the technology of critical components, the other components can be reverse engineered right?

 

[TPFscopes]

Can't Safran reverse engineer EJ2000? Since they already have the technology of critical components, the other components can be reverse engineered right?

Professionals don't do such type of things.
China is enough to do the same..

And there is nothing like EJ2000 , Its eurojet's EJ200

 

[airtel]

M88 can reach EJ2000 level - 100kN. It hasn't yet reached its capacity. EJ2000 is the capacity limit for older generation engine

it is EJ 200 .

and they upgrade the manufacturing process of Engines to Improve efficiency so it is not an older generation Engine .

Ej 200 is one of the best Engines in the world with extremely good thrust to weight ratio and Good life ..............and it did not reach it's maximum capacity , there are other Engines too with Higher thrust , different core same technology .......like Ej 230 .

 

[BON PLAN]

It may also be win win situation for French too because they also want a higher thurst Engine to Upgrade their fleet because M88 already reached its maximum efficiency.

it's the definition of win win : Beneficial to both parties. So also for France.