Kashmir Fateh Thread August 2019

[bhramos]

Harish Salve on abrogation of 370

 

[bhramos]

Why would the PM of Pakistan go to US, try to put down the US by saying China has better infrastructure and then be snubbed by a US TV anchor? “You don’t sound like the PM of Pakistan. You sound like a welder from the Bronx”, says the host. Ab aur kitna zaleel hona baaki hai?

 

[bhramos]

UK court awards Nizam's fund to India, refutes Pakistan's claims on it - Around 35 million pounds in a UK bank belongs to the Indian descendants of the Nizam of Hyderabad ruled The UK High Court paving way for his family to claim it

 

[ganesh177]

India gets Germany’s support on Article 370, German envoy says it is internal matter; Merkel to visit soon
By: Huma Siddiqui |
Published: October 2, 2019 7:37:26 PM
To a question about Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan's warning of a war with India during the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA), Lindner said that things do not seem to be right in today's era, adding, Germany would like human rights to be taken care of in Jammu and Kashmir.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel
Ahead of German Chancellor Angela Merkel to visit India early next month, Germany has said that Jammu and Kashmir is an internal issue of India.

Interacting with the Indian Association of Foreign Affairs Correspondents in New Delhi, German Ambassador to India Walter J Lindner said that the revocation of Article 370 and bifurcation of Jammu and Kashmir are internal matters of India. However, he viewed the situation in the valley as a “challenge.”


Acknowledging that developments in Jammu and Kashmir are internal to India, the German envoy said that the situation has regional ramifications.

To a question about Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan’s warning of a war with India during the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA), Lindner said that things do not seem to be right in today’s era, adding, Germany would like human rights to be taken care of in Jammu and Kashmir.

The German envoy also appreciated Prime Minister Narendra Modi for giving a restrained speech in contrast to Pakistan leader who was provocative in his address at the UNGA.

Expressing hope that there will be no second Kargil, the German envoy told the media that the fight against terrorism is more important than even a verbal war.

Indian Navy Scorpene class submarine INS Khanderi: It’s a deadly deep-sea predator

Sharing his impression of his earlier travels to Kashmir, the envoy that there is a shortage of employment and that people are tired of violence and the people are seeking boats, hotels, tourists and peace.

“The Indian government has said that the steps taken will help in the development and all this will change. So all are watching that it changes for the better,” he said.

German Chancellor’s visit

While the dates have not been announced officially, the visit is expected in the first week of November for the biennial summit-level meeting. Accompanied by a high-level official delegation, the focus during her meeting with Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be on the fight against terrorism, climate change and defence cooperation. And will also cooperation in sectors including artificial intelligence, global warming, development and economic relations.


https://www.financialexpress.com/de...a_Recirculation&utm_medium=RC&utm_campaign=FE

 

[tarunraju]

Vande Bharat Express from Delhi to Katra J&K UT has been flagged off. You can now get to Katra in just 8 hours from Delhi in a comfortable heated/air-conditioned train with business-class seats, free Wi-Fi, and meals served onboard. Its top-speed is 160 kmph.

^The red dot is Katra.

 

[afako]

India gets Germany’s support on Article 370, German envoy says it is internal matter; Merkel to visit soon
By: Huma Siddiqui |
Published: October 2, 2019 7:37:26 PM
To a question about Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan's warning of a war with India during the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA), Lindner said that things do not seem to be right in today's era, adding, Germany would like human rights to be taken care of in Jammu and Kashmir.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel
Ahead of German Chancellor Angela Merkel to visit India early next month, Germany has said that Jammu and Kashmir is an internal issue of India.

Interacting with the Indian Association of Foreign Affairs Correspondents in New Delhi, German Ambassador to India Walter J Lindner said that the revocation of Article 370 and bifurcation of Jammu and Kashmir are internal matters of India. However, he viewed the situation in the valley as a “challenge.”


Acknowledging that developments in Jammu and Kashmir are internal to India, the German envoy said that the situation has regional ramifications.

To a question about Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan’s warning of a war with India during the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA), Lindner said that things do not seem to be right in today’s era, adding, Germany would like human rights to be taken care of in Jammu and Kashmir.

The German envoy also appreciated Prime Minister Narendra Modi for giving a restrained speech in contrast to Pakistan leader who was provocative in his address at the UNGA.

Expressing hope that there will be no second Kargil, the German envoy told the media that the fight against terrorism is more important than even a verbal war.

Indian Navy Scorpene class submarine INS Khanderi: It’s a deadly deep-sea predator

Sharing his impression of his earlier travels to Kashmir, the envoy that there is a shortage of employment and that people are tired of violence and the people are seeking boats, hotels, tourists and peace.

“The Indian government has said that the steps taken will help in the development and all this will change. So all are watching that it changes for the better,” he said.

German Chancellor’s visit

While the dates have not been announced officially, the visit is expected in the first week of November for the biennial summit-level meeting. Accompanied by a high-level official delegation, the focus during her meeting with Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be on the fight against terrorism, climate change and defence cooperation. And will also cooperation in sectors including artificial intelligence, global warming, development and economic relations.


https://www.financialexpress.com/de...a_Recirculation&utm_medium=RC&utm_campaign=FE

The dark horse in the race is Germany.

German Technology and Industrial Investments made up the Soviet Union.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi–Soviet_economic_relations_(1934–41)

Today China's industrial capacity ois again powered by German Industrial Might.

German Companies like BMW, Daimler, VW, BASF, etc. have become to reliant on China market for growth and super normal profits. BMW is the first company to own a full stake in the auto JV industry. BASF was the first chemical company to operate fully owned factory in China. In return, the leftists sitting in EU and Germany have provided comfort to China against USA, thereby diluting US actions against China.

Also, Germany is aligned with Russia and also China against American interests.

 

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[Why so serious?]

Cross post.


Why can't we ensure the safety of our scientists ? Who is behind this?


Isro scientist hit on head, found dead in Hyderabad home
A scientist with the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) was Tuesday found murdered in his apartment in Hyderabad.

• • Ashish Pandey
• Hyderabad
• October 2, 2019
• UPDATED: October 2, 2019 12:22 IST

Suresh Kumar had been living on his own in Hyderabad and had been working as a scientist with the National Remote Sensing Centre -- a wing of the Isro.

An Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) scientist was found murdered in his house in Hyderabad on Tuesday.

The deceased, identified as 58-year-old Suresh Kumar, was found dead in his SR Nagar residence.

He was allegedly killed by unknown persons at his flat at Annapurna Apartment in Ameerpet area in the heart of the city.

Suresh Kumar had been living on his own in Hyderabad and had been working as a scientist with the National Remote Sensing Centre -- a wing of the Isro.

Kumar's family stays in Chennai and they raised an alarm when they were not able to contact him. The family alerted his colleagues in Hyderabad.

When his coworkers reached his house, they found the door locked from inside.

After no answer to repeated calls and to the doorbell, the group managed to break the door of Suresh Kumar's house open only to find his body lying in a pool of blood.

The Hyderabad police have registered a case and are investigating the matter.

Police suspect that he was hit on the head with some heavy object resulting in his death. The body was shifted for autopsy.

They said they were scanning the CCTV footage of the apartment complex to probe the case.

Suresh had been living in Hyderabad for 20 years. His wife was also working in the city but was transferred to Chennai in 2005.

Their son is settled in the US while their daughter lives in Delhi.

 

[sorcerer]

NSA gets teeth, Secretariat put in government business rules

NEW DELHI: The National Security Council Secretariat, which reports to National Security Advisor Ajit Doval, has been brought into the government’s Allocation of Business (AOB) rules, thus granting it constitutional recognition and legal authority.

The amendment to government’s rules of business, which was made last month, also gives an official description to the role of National Security Advisor as “the principal advisor on national security matters to the prime minister”. It also makes it clear that the NSCS will be the secretariat for the PM-led National Security Council (NSC).


This move also mainstreams the NSCS and gives it the authority to service the NSC, SPG and even the DPG. It can now generate cabinet notes, access relevant cabinet proposals and partake in inter-ministerial deliberations just like any other government department. Until now, the Cabinet Secretary would have to send out periodic reminders to various ministries to route relevant notes through the NSCS for comments.

Through this amendment to AOB, the government has firmed up a clear structure for the NSC, which comprises the PM, the home minister, the defence minister, the finance minister and the external affairs minister.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...nment-business-rules/articleshow/71416098.cms

 

[Icarus]

Why would the PM of Pakistan go to US, try to put down the US by saying China has better infrastructure and then be snubbed by a US TV anchor? “You don’t sound like the PM of Pakistan. You sound like a welder from the Bronx”, says the host. Ab aur kitna zaleel hona baaki hai?

He said voter, not welder. In trying to make fun of Pakistanis, we Indians make fools out of ourselves.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...ower-says-jaishankar/article29582282.ece/amp/

India would be a south western power, says Jaishankar

With India emerging as a powerful nation on the global stage and experts and analysts probing which way it would tilt, External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar on Thursday said the largest democracy would be a blend of the west and the developed world.

“There’s often the question asked whether India, these are not my words, would be an Eastern power or a Western power, meaning would it be democratic or would it not be democratic? I think by now in 70 years, at least that question is answered, he said. “But I would also suggest to you that it would be a southern power, that it would be a power with very strong bonding with the developed world, which would enjoy as it goes up in the international order, the degree of trust and confidence of other developing states,” he added.

“And that would be reflected in our own activities and commitments to those states,” he said in response to a question during his appearance at The Heritage Foundation. This bounding can be seen in India’s development assistant commitments and disaster relief responses, he said.

“You can see that in our Africa story, which is not written about very much. So I kind of think it would be a south western power. This to my mind would be sort of where is the world and where is India in its mindset at this time,” he said. In his remarks, the Minister said that nationalism is an “X factor” in international relations today and cautioned that it means different things to different people.

Economic progress

“Here is the difference, nationalism has a certain connotation in Europe, which is not necessarily positive, but I think in Asia, nationalism is seen very much as a sort of natural corollary to economic progress, almost like you’re independent, you progress, you are prosperous and nationalism comes with all of that, he said.

He observed that nationalism in the 19th century defeated multinational empires in different parts of the world and in the 20th century, it helped to overcome colonialism. “It then was actually probably the most successful mindset against communists. It has in different parts of the world countered faith based transnational, and loyalties, he said.

It is also interestingly dealt with narrower royalties than national ones. Certainly in our part of the world, it’s been very effective in dealing with regionalism and separatists,” he added. “And today actually, when it set up as a counterpoise to globalism, it is actually, shall I say, the Westphalian construct has actually proved extraordinarily durable or over a very long time, and clearly continues to do so, the minister said.

Contemporary international relation

If you have some exceptions today, I wouldn’t put them in any category -- I think India and China largely because these are civilisational states who have been dominant on the global stage and likely to assume that role more.” “You have today a lot of reactive nationalism, nationalism coming out of insecurity, out of privileges which may not be maintainable, he said, adding that you see a lot of that in Europe.

You have expressive nationalism, I mean very identity driven, which shaped each other a lot of that in the Middle East. Somewhere today, this fusion of economics, politics, culture, faith, identity, this is actually, I would argue one of the difficult issues for contemporary international relation to grapple with, he said. There is an Indian exceptionalism to this nationalism, he argued.

In a sense there is Indian exceptionalism on this issue, but actually on many other issues as well. On the one hand you have a more nationalist India, more nationalist in the sense that, not just that the people, vote a certain way or think a certain way or stronger sense of collectivism, he said. I actually have found empirically that issues which normally would have stayed with people like us, which would not have had a resonance in public, are today doing so.”

“There is much greater interest in India, what’s happening in the world? what are the interests of India? What are the standing of India? How successful or not successful you will be? he said. So, it’s really that connect between the street and policy-making has actually become very much a sharper. But exceptionalism, because while all of this is going, actually the appetite of India for foreign affairs has grown,” he said.

“That’s quite remarkable because it’s pretty much contrary to what you see in many other parts of the world, he added. It’s not unique, by the way, he noted.

 

[sorcerer]

Pakistan owes China more money than it owes the IMF

Pakistan needs to repay China more than double the amount it owes the International Monetary Fund in the next three years, as loans racked-up to boost foreign exchange reserves and bridge a financing gap become due.

The South Asian nation owes $6.7 billion in commercial loans to China over the three years through June 2022, according to the IMF, which this year approved a new program to bail out Pakistan from a crisis. Islamabad needs to pay the multilateral lender $2.8 billion in the same period.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...than-it-owes-the-imf/articleshow/71417956.cms

China is killing religious and ethnic minorities and harvesting their organs, UN Human Rights Council told
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-harvest-organs-un-human-rights-a9117911.html

 

[Why so serious?]

Article 370 Was a Mistake, Pakistan's Reaction Sign of Complete Bankruptcy, Says Harish Salve
Harish Salve said Pakistan-occupied Kashmir is Indian and the neighbouring country is squatting there. If there is any disputed territory (in the region), it is PoK, he added.
UPDATED ON: OCTOBER 3, 2019, 11:50 AM IST
News18.com
File photo of senior advocate Harish Salve.

London: Senior Indian lawyer Harish Salve on Wednesday endorsed the Narendra Modi government's decision to revoke Article 370 to withdraw the special status of Jammu and Kashmir as a means of correcting a "mistake".

He described Pakistan's reaction to the move as a sign of "complete bankruptcy" because Kashmir is an integral part of India where they were "squatting".


Tensions between the two countries have spiked since India abrogated Article 370 of the Constitution to revoke the special status of Jammu and Kashmir. India's decision evoked strong reactions from Pakistan, which downgraded diplomatic ties and expelled the Indian ambassador.

Pakistan has been trying to internationalise the Kashmir issue after India withdrew the special status of Jammu and Kashmir on August 5, but New Delhi has asserted the abrogation of Article 370 was its "internal matter".

Salve said, "Pakistan-occupied Kashmir is Indian, they (Pakistan) are squatting there. If there is any disputed territory (in the region), it is PoK. The Kashmir Constitution says Kashmir is an integral part of India, not just the Indian Constitution. Kashmir being an integral part of India has never been in doubt, except in certain Pakistani minds."

Describing himself as a "long-time votary" of getting rid of Article 370, the senior lawyer said, "I think it was a mistake to allow it and a bigger mistake to allow it to fester. Some time you had to cut the Gordian Knot and the government has done it. The only way it could have been done is by one shot.

"The suggestion that it should have been a discussion is nonsense because even the slightest mention of 370 would evoke very trenchant and militant criticism. India has done the right thing."

In reference to the legal challenge over the issue, he added, "The Supreme Court of India will hear and decide if there was anything wrong. But the way it has been portrayed by Pakistan shows their complete bankruptcy of the mind."

Salve was speaking to reporters at the Indian High Commission in London following a landmark judgment by the Royal Courts of Justice earlier in the day in favour of the Indian government in relation to funds associated with the Nizam of Hyderabad dating back to Partition in 1947.

As a key member of the legal team on behalf of India, the lawyer hailed the verdict as an important endorsement of India's long-held stance against Pakistan in the UK court.

"It was a wrongful claim by Pakistan which had to be fought. We fought that claim and won it," Salve said, in reference to the 35 million pounds held in a London bank account which will now be shared between the Nizam of Hyderabad's heirs and the Indian government based on a confidential agreement struck between the parties.

"Historians will be interested in seeing Pakistan's open acceptance that they were supplying arms. It is an interesting dimension which has publicly been acknowledged," he said, in reference to one of the arguments used by Pakistan as part of its claim for the funds.

 

[tarunraju]

Big development.

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[aarav]

Now you see movements against Chinks,Turks & malay especially delaying a $2.5 billion deal will pinch the Turkish shipyard ,now VietNam ambassador is giving bytes to indian media about South China Sea ,chinese hegemony & how india can help or is helping, against Malays we just have to ban their Palm oil imports citing the health hazards and climate change,if malays are mad enough for trying to take it to WTO ,keep the pressure on for them for helping pakis ,message should get out that there is a cost to pay if they challenge India's core interests.

 

[RAM]

Pakistan’s army chief Bajwa steps in to fix its crumbling economy

Karachi: Pakistan’s already powerful military is taking an even greater role in running the country as the economy stumbles.

Army chief Qamar Javed Bajwa has privately met top business leaders to find ways to bolster the economy, according to people familiar with the matter. The three meetings Bloomberg is aware of took place this year at heavily guarded military offices in Karachi, the financial capital, and Rawalpindi, a northern town that houses the army’s headquarters.

At the meetings, arranged through mutual contacts, Bajwa asked business leaders how to fix the economy and what would lead them to make investments, said the people, who asked not to be identified. Some of the meetings resulted in prompt decisions including sending instructions to top government officials, the people said, without giving any specific examples. They said the general was concerned about restoring confidence among the business community.

An army spokesman declined to comment when asked about the meetings.

The military, which has staged numerous coups since Pakistan’s founding in 1947, has seen a direct impact from the economic slowdown: Defense spending was frozen in the 2020 fiscal year budget for the first time in more than a decade. That comes as soldiers are on high alert against terrorists based in Afghanistan and conventional forces in arch-rival India, which has put the disputed area of Kashmir under lockdown.

Many business leaders and economic analysts in Pakistan actually welcome a greater role for the generals. They view Prime Minister Imran Khan’s party — less than halfway through its first term in office — as inexperienced compared with the military, which is the country’s most respected and powerful institution.

But others are concerned about what an ever-increasing role for the military means for Pakistan’s democracy and the future of civilian institutions that haven’t been given the space to develop.

“The growing role of the military in the economy’s management in addition to its traditional dominance of the security matters is nothing but a soft coup that is a setback for the democratic process,” said Yousuf Nazar, a former Citigroup Inc. banker and author of a book on Pakistan’s economy. “This will have far reaching repercussions,” he said, adding generally that strong-arm methods for management will not work for basic economic and social issues.


https://theprint.in/economy/pakistans-army-chief-bajwa-steps-in-to-fix-its-crumbling-economy/300346/

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[Haldiram]

Pakistan’s army chief Bajwa steps in to fix its crumbling economy

Karachi: Pakistan’s already powerful military is taking an even greater role in running the country as the economy stumbles.

Army chief Qamar Javed Bajwa has privately met top business leaders to find ways to bolster the economy, according to people familiar with the matter. The three meetings Bloomberg is aware of took place this year at heavily guarded military offices in Karachi, the financial capital, and Rawalpindi, a northern town that houses the army’s headquarters.

At the meetings, arranged through mutual contacts, Bajwa asked business leaders how to fix the economy and what would lead them to make investments, said the people, who asked not to be identified. Some of the meetings resulted in prompt decisions including sending instructions to top government officials, the people said, without giving any specific examples. They said the general was concerned about restoring confidence among the business community.

An army spokesman declined to comment when asked about the meetings.

The military, which has staged numerous coups since Pakistan’s founding in 1947, has seen a direct impact from the economic slowdown: Defense spending was frozen in the 2020 fiscal year budget for the first time in more than a decade. That comes as soldiers are on high alert against terrorists based in Afghanistan and conventional forces in arch-rival India, which has put the disputed area of Kashmir under lockdown.

Many business leaders and economic analysts in Pakistan actually welcome a greater role for the generals. They view Prime Minister Imran Khan’s party — less than halfway through its first term in office — as inexperienced compared with the military, which is the country’s most respected and powerful institution.

But others are concerned about what an ever-increasing role for the military means for Pakistan’s democracy and the future of civilian institutions that haven’t been given the space to develop.

“The growing role of the military in the economy’s management in addition to its traditional dominance of the security matters is nothing but a soft coup that is a setback for the democratic process,” said Yousuf Nazar, a former Citigroup Inc. banker and author of a book on Pakistan’s economy. “This will have far reaching repercussions,” he said, adding generally that strong-arm methods for management will not work for basic economic and social issues.


https://theprint.in/economy/pakistans-army-chief-bajwa-steps-in-to-fix-its-crumbling-economy/300346/

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

There was a person named Ram on the forum and we didn't even know. Hello Ram, mandir wahi banega!

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Indian influence growing in Asia.
Vietnam can be a key partner for india.
In defence sales also.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

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NAPAKISTAN doing napaki harkte.

 

[ezsasa]

Now you see movements against Chinks,Turks & malay especially delaying a $2.5 billion deal will pinch the Turkish shipyard ,now VietNam ambassador is giving bytes to indian media about South China Sea ,chinese hegemony & how india can help or is helping, against Malays we just have to ban their Palm oil imports citing the health hazards and climate change,if malays are mad enough for trying to take it to WTO ,keep the pressure on for them for helping pakis ,message should get out that there is a cost to pay if they challenge India's core interests.

This is where you have to admire developed economies, they always fund sufficient “scientific literature” which they can pick an choose for leverage(black mail) in such situations.