Kamorta Class ASW Corvettes

[kamaal]

Of all indigenous ships, P28 looks more complete design and stealthier one too. P17 Kolkatta class are the worst designed ships for me.

 

[AVERAGE INDIAN]

Seriously ..What is this issue with IN when it comes to Docking ships they screw time and again ...is it just fatigue of over workload are some serious lethargy in handling the situations ..

That ain't a collision pic.....

Watch the Video it was a close call but no contact or collision . watch from 0.26 to 0.40 the photo is morphed

 

[captscooby81]

Thanks for the update ..Not sure why the col posted this and said there is damage to the ship and how bad it is need to be assessed ...I just pray that nothing like this happened i am more than happy to see our ships without a scratch ...

Watch the Video it was a close call but no contact or collision . watch from 0.26 to 0.40 the photo is morphed

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Corvette in action, using its main gun which is 76mm rapid firing gun ..

 

[Shashwat]

^^ Why is the exhaust tower burned out? It's not black in Kadmatt and in other ships.

Is it because of the fire that struck the ship in the past month?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

P-28 exhaust usually get dark, Due to such reason the exhaust is painted in black ..

Though, this is not seen in P-29,30,31 ..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

P-28, Commissioned in 23 August 2014

P-29, Commissioned in 7 January 2016

P-30, Commissioned in 16 October 2017

P-31, Commissioned in Before end 2017

The overall length of the Kamorta-class corvettes is 109 m (358 ft), and the beam spans 13.7 m (45 ft). The ships displace about 2,500 tonnes (2,500 long tons; 2,800 short tons) at standard load and 3,500 tonnes (3,400 long tons; 3,900 short tons) when fully loaded. Each ship compliments 180 sailors and 13 officers.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

These ships have 90% Indian contents besides 100% Indian design ..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Some internal pictures of the ship ..

 

[Tanmay]

Last row seems to be Hangar . With furnishing like that in Officers Mess I guess these are floating hotels

 

[Kalki_2018]

Do they have any missiles yet? Barak-1's at least.

 

[Spectre]

So, the Kamorta class is a class of ASW frigates having comprehensive anti sub warfare capability but without any anti air capability, thus, taking into consideration its strengths and weaknesses, how exactly does the IN plan to employ these during peace and during war.

Eg. Will these be used as part of the CBG(this seems improbable due to their lack of AAW capability)

Will these be used closer to the coast under the protection of land based aircraft? etc.


What are the future possibilities of the Kamorta class deploy Medium uuv's or usv's (i consider these to be force multipliers especially with respect to sub detection)

 

[Spectre]

'' Researches in remote control started in 60's at Central Research Institute for Automatics and Hydraulics (Moscow). "A wire line was adopted basing on simultaneous doubled paying out of cable from two spools located in torpedo and towed by a submarine. Such telecontrol system was applied in SET-53M type torpedo commissioned in 1969 under the index TEST-68. In 1971 torpedo TEST-71 was designed on the basis of more advanced torpedo SET-65; then – torpedo TEST-71M and helicopter-based remote-controlled torpedo VTT-1 on the basis of torpedo AT-1" ("60 years of CRI Gidropribor", St. Petersburg, 2003).

In contrast to western telecontrol systems providing both directional and depth control of several torpedoes for maximum consideration of hydrology, decreasing of torpedo's noise, and alteration of target class (for example, while submarine's "dolphin jump" surfacing), telecontrol system of our Projects 641B and 877 diesel electric subs provided only horizontal guidance of only one torpedo. Submarine-towed telecontrol spool is still used. Influence of water currents on torpedo's speed leads to spool curling and wire breakage. Application of long conducting ropes to decrease this effect excludes use of telecontrol at shallow depths and makes multiple launches impossible.

Late 60's Western designers developed umbilical telecontrol spool; after launch, it remained on breech door of torpedo tube. Cable slippage was provided by protective "hose" to compensate submarine's post-launch maneuvering. Umbilical telecontrol enabled to increase reliability of cable connection, reduce limitations in speed and maneuvers, and ensure multiple launches including those at shallow depths. Consequently, torpedo weapons became more effective, and distances between launch site and targets were significantly increased.

In 70's Soviet Union also had everything to adopt umbilical spools; however, the Navy hindered that innovation. The necessity of post-launch removing a spool and a "hose" from torpedo tube required manual operations. Navy Technical Development Plan involved automatic reload of torpedo tubes which was possible only with towed spool. So, the Navy rejected "hose" telecontrol systems; moreover, it was widely believed that "we don't need it", since our subs and torpedoes were less silent and so forth. USET-80, basic torpedo of 3rd generation nuclear submarines had never obtained homing system prescribed in Technical Development Plan.

By the way, in real conditions even brief telecontrol considerably increases effectiveness of torpedo launch against submarine; moreover, successful launch against surface ships performing anti-torpedo zigzag maneuvers at a distance over 11-13 km is possible only with telecontrol. The main thing is that up to mid-80's telecontrol remained the only effective interference resistance method in conditions of high sonar countermeasure. Till early 80's there were no homing systems with required interference resistance worldwide. So to provide effective fire, the US Navy has been using telecontrol as indispensable condition since 50's; their surface ships are equipped with broad range of ASW means to maintain capability of multiple attacks upon submarines.

All Western heavy torpedoes and even new Chinese torpedoes use umbilical telecontrol. Towed spool applied in our torpedoes is a 50-year old rudiment. In fact, this places Russian subs in the crosshairs of enemy's weapons having much more effective firing range.

The situation is that, for example, none of Russian torpedoes presented at international defense show IMDS-2009 had umbilical telecontrol spool, even the most advanced UGST! Only towed spools... ''



This is an extract from an article i found online, it discusses the flaws of Russian torpedoes. Since a majority of our torpedoes are Russian, are our torpedoes too limited by the same problems?

If our torpedoes are limited by the same problem, what procedures/tactics are used to minimise this handicap?

Also, are the Ship and sub launched versions of the varunastra limited by the same problem?



Article source
http://rusnavy.com/science/weapons/underseaweapon/index.php?print=Y&ei=i2n01bwm&lc=en-IN&s=1&m=681&host=www.google.co.in&ts=1475580932&sig=AF9Nedntole3bdSEbMPSNWWXrk7x8EwIPA

 

[S.Balaji]

What are the future possibilities of the Kamorta class deploy Medium uuv's or usv's (i consider these to be force multipliers especially with respect to sub detection)

Had visited kamrota while it was berthed at Chennai harbour, it had 2 rail launch UAV modules on its Heli deck....wasn't able to get the name of the system ....but the sailors said it was a indigenous system......so they are using UAVs for airborne surveillance over sea....it has soft kill missile counter measure suite Kavach apart from SRGM AK630 weapons system against surface/air targets

 

[Shashwat]

Latest GE image of GRSE- Date 24/4/19

Kavaratti outfitting with 2 LCUs.

 

[WolfPack86]

INS Kamorta asw corvettes.

 

[Shashwat]

^^ Whats the point of copy pasting photo in each thread?

 

[Bleh]

^^ Whats the point of copy pasting photo in each thread?

What's the update on Project 28A? ..all Kamorta class "Corvettes" been completed.

At 3300 ton of small frigates they should have put in some SAMs atleast, or mine-clearing equipment note that the deal to buy 24 Mine-countermeasure vessel is fucked.

 

[Shashwat]

^^ 3 commissioned and the last one waiting to be should be done before end of this year was supposed to be commissioned in 2018. The fleet is waiting for Sr-SAM/VL-Astra to be armed for area defence.

 

[Shashwat]

Last Kamorta-class - Kavaratti ready for sea trials. Judging by previous ship trial the duration should be small.