KALI 5000 - Enemy Missiles - Here we come!

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Kali as far as get info, DRDO is now more interested in that project, their is no news from DAE for very very long time.

Kali alone is not going to do work, we need some thing to identify, track and point Kali to target, that is the whole package on Plane, that wont be easy, given the fact that Israel and Russia had to work so hard just to put our AWAC with its IL plane.

putting Kali on IL will be uphill but not impossible task, WE need to have Russian on this or else it will take another 5-10 years.
Sayar the details of this will remain unknown, many things may already be done and it maybe ready to go??
 

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how about keeping it on the ground and using rail to transport? or large trucks and have an external generator type power source? mobile and still highly possible.

A rail mobile KALI, that can be a good idea, Soviets used a rail driven missile launcher and it was active, Anup, can it be done with KALI 5000, and driven by rail engine?

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A rail mobile KALI, that can be a good idea, Soviets used a rail driven missile launcher and it was active, Anup, can it be done with KALI 5000, and driven by rail engine?

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If large ICBM'S like TOPOL are transported by Rail and trucks why can't KALI?? it
looks at lot smaller than an ICBM or even Brahmos from the picture given.
 

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If large ICBM'S like TOPOL are transported by Rail and trucks why can't KALI?? it
looks at lot smaller than an ICBM or even Brahmos from the picture given.
Tranportation of Kali is not problem its use is, let say you want to use it as weapon against Missile, then it has to be near the place of missile target (road or rail mobile platform) or from where it missile is launched (on airborn platform).
 

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Tranportation of Kali is not problem its use is, let say you want to use it as weapon against Missile, then it has to be near the place of missile target (road or rail mobile platform) or from where it missile is launched (on airborn platform).
that is one role another role could be knocking out all enemy communications and radar and electricity in general for many mile radius.
 

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LF KALI (Kilo Ampere Linear Injector) is a linear electron accelerator being developed in India, which means it travels in stright line, for taking our emeny communication you need some thing which travel in directors you want, so that same will not distrub our communications network. more of EMP type weapon but controlled one.
 

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LF KALI (Kilo Ampere Linear Injector) is a linear electron accelerator being developed in India, which means it travels in stright line, for taking our emeny communication you need some thing which travel in directors you want, so that same will not distrub our communications network. more of EMP type weapon but controlled one.
thanks saya i am just trying to view it in a both offensive and defensive way?
 

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ofcouse if we can miniturised it and put it in geo stationary satellite orbit, that will be greatest achivement, we need help from Isreal and Russia for this.
 

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we have the platform only modifications will be needed for whatever way we decide to use it.
 

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Kali needs to be modified with the current tech, which i presume DRDO is actively working on with DAE on this project.......... Kali gives DRDO ability to understand EMP type of beam weapons, just add to that DRDO is working on laser for long time, therefore some type of weapon or early model will come in next 5 years.
 

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That's can be a great achievement saya , if done, and in that case we have the platform , we need the modification, but also in my opinion if we have to miniaturise it for putting it to Geo Stationery Orbit, and regarding our current capability I think we should have a miniature version of 2 ton. That can be uphill but I think may not be impossible.

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Isn't it fire once only as of now?

That means there is a long way to go to weaponize it.
 

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That's can be a great achievement saya , if done, and in that case we have the platform , we need the modification, but also in my opinion if we have to miniaturise it for putting it to Geo Stationery Orbit, and regarding our current capability I think we should have a miniature version of 2 ton. That can be uphill but I think may not be impossible.

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Pintu,
We need a good power source for a weapon like this and I dont think a few solar panels are going to generate that much power to fore a weapon like this. As the weapon has to cross a lot of electronic obstacles the power requirement is naturally more.
 

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^^^Satish , does it mean that this type weapon can not put into the space, how ever if it can be done to place this weapon in minituerised form then what can be the source of power , as I think your point is right that the solar panels may not be enough to power this type of weapon.

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It atleast needs a miniaturised Nuclear reactor to fire a weapon like this from space.because you have to cross the atmospheric filter. The upper layers of the atmosphere is highly radioactive. So the power of a beam of electrons has to be highly charged to enter through the upper atmosphere layers. The cooling unit must also be powered. And I dont suppose this can be done easily by all the solar panels. A space based laser is a far more Viable option than this.
 

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I stand clear Satish , thanks and regards for that , and also I think that this weapon should be used as Ground based weapon, better be rail and road mobile, or like Soviets did with Topol M , which were fitted with launcher in a train.

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It is best to gaurd HVA like the Nuclear reactors...these have enough energy to fire this weapon. But it might sound kinda funny as BARC made this weapon perhaps they are also showing intreasts in gaurding their own sites.
 

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It might be a possibility that they may have created this type of very powerful weapon on guarding their own sites, then the weapon only can be used as Air - defence weapon for the Nuclear reactors, as you suggested?

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KALI 5000 India's Answer To Star Wars

KALI 5000


The Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) has assembled `KALI-5000' is a powerful electron accelerating machine assembled by the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC), Mumbai, which, its scientists say, can potentially be used as a beam weapon.

Bursts of microwaves packed with gigawatts of power (one gigawatt is 1000 million watts) produced by this machine, when aimed at enemy missiles and aircraft, will cripple their electronics systems and computer chips and bring them down.

Today we bring to you the star war weapons designed and developed indigenously in our country.

At a time when missiles are increasingly becoming relevant in modern warfare and when the threat of a pre-emptive nuclear attack from Pakistan is realistic, Kali-5000 is India's answer to any uninvited incoming missiles and planes. Moreover, the beam can also be used to cripple the enemy satellite and UAVs in no time.

According to scientists, ''soft killing`` by high power microwaves has advantages over the so called laser weapon which destroys by drilling holes through metal.

Kali-5000 will be ready for testing by the end of this year, according to Mr P H Ron, head of the accelerator and internal linkpulse power division at Barc and chief designer of India`s first star wars weapon.

However, in the present form India`s beam weapon is too bulky - it weighs 26 tonnes - including tanks containing 12000 litres of oil. Mr Ron said some ''compacting`` was possible. He said Kali (kilo-ampere linear injector) machine was developed for industrial applications and that the defence use was a recent spinoff. He, however, declined to elaborate.

Describing it as a machine ''bordering basic research,`` Atomic Energy Commission Chairman Rajagopalan Chidambaram admitted in an interview that it has military potential. ''There are some technologies we have to be in touch with because they may become useful (later),`` he said.

Development of the Kali machine was mooted in 1985 by Dr Chidambaram, then director of Barc, but work earnestly began in 1989.

Mr Ron said the machine essentially generated pulses of highly energetic electrons. Other components in the machine down the line converted the electrons into flash x-rays (for ultra high-speed photography) or microwaves. The electron beam itself can be used for welding.

The Defence Balistics Research Institute in Chandigarh is already using an x-ray version of Kali to study speed of projectiles.

WORK IN BANGALORE: Another defence institute in Bangalore is using a microwave-producing version of Kali which the scientists use for testing the vulnerability of the electronic systems going into the light combat aircraft under development and designing electrostatic shields to protect them from microwave attack by the enemy.

According to Barc scientists, the Kali machine has for the first time provided India a way to ''harden`` the electronic systems used in satellites and missiles against the deadly internal linkelectromagnetic impulses (Emi) generated by nuclear weapons.

The Emi wrecks havoc by creating internal linkintenseinternal linkelectric field of several thousand volts per centimetre. The electronic components currently used in missiles can withstand fields of Just 300 volts per centimetre.

While the Kali systems built so far are single shot pulse power systems (they produce one burst of microwaves and the next burst comes much later), Kali-5000 is a rapid fire device, and hence its potential as a beam weapon.

According to Barc-published reports, the machine will shoot several thousand bursts of microwaves, each burst lasting for just 60 billionths of a second and packed with a power of about four gigawatts.

The high power microwave pulses travel in a straight line and do not dissipate their energy if the internal linkfrequency falls between three and ten gigahertz.

According to Barc scientists, a microwave power of 150 megawatts has already been demonstrated in earlier versions of Kali.




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