JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

[p2prada]

@Dazzler

Okay, so assembly of Block 2 has begun now. I thought it started quite some time ago.

 

[sayareakd]

This IFR is not same as shown here.

So JF 17 will not have retractable IFR as shown in second pic.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

That looks like a pipe bend over, drag ..

 

[ersakthivel]

That looks like a pipe bend over, drag ..

chinese STATE OF THE ART inflight refueling probe!!!!!!!!!

 

[shiphone]

the prototype of JF17 Block 2 based on the first SP...09-109

1.IFR 2. C802AKG 3. SD-10A missile(Trainning missile)

source: youtube and DSWC

 

[sayareakd]

one more interesting observation, their IFR is too close to glass canopy.

Here the same on LCA

and on Jaguar

if the basket which put fuel in IFR shakes then it will hit glass canopy in JF 17.

 

[Patriot]

This IFR is not same as shown here.

So JF 17 will not have retractable IFR as shown in second pic.

NO @sayareakd , as it seems to be equivalent to Rafale at least by looks. It will look beautiful, bright & shiney on radar

 

[Dazzler]

NO @sayareakd , as it seems to be equivalent to Rafale at least by looks. It will look beautiful, bright & shiney on radar

Mirage 5 is to be repaced now...

Pakistan: 50th JF-17 fighter jet joins fleet of A-5, Mirage-V, F-7 combat planes. 12 2013 - YouTube



IFR is fexed, pic says it all, its south african, same as was fitted on Atlas Cheetah

 

[Dazzler]

This IFR is not same as shown here.

So JF 17 will not have retractable IFR as shown in second pic.

its fixed, not enough space for a retractable IFR.

 

[Dazzler]

one more interesting observation, their IFR is too close to glass canopy.

Here the same on LCA

and on Jaguar

if the basket which put fuel in IFR shakes then it will hit glass canopy in JF 17.

its not fragile as it looks, the angle looks closer to the cockpit, to reduce RCS, but an IFR rarely does that.

 

[ersakthivel]

one more interesting observation, their IFR is too close to glass canopy.

Here the same on LCA

and on Jaguar

if the basket which put fuel in IFR shakes then it will hit glass canopy in JF 17.

You are correct it is a cosmetic arrangement prone with danger for the pilot and aircraft,

In tejas and Jag it is very far away from the pilot's face, but it is so close to pilot and the glass canopy in JF-17,

Refueling would be a very dangerous job,

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

hey DAZZLER

which aircraft is the backbone of your Airforce? f-16 or jf-17

 

[sayareakd]

hey DAZZLER

which aircraft is the backbone of your Airforce? f-16 or jf-17

With 50 JF17 how it can be backbone today?

 

[sayareakd]

You are correct it is a cosmetic arrangement prone with danger for the pilot and aircraft,

In tejas and Jag it is very far away from the pilot's face, but it is so close to pilot and the glass canopy in JF-17,

Refueling would be a very dangerous job,

Basket which will refuel will hit canopy if moved slightly to right. Plus not very good idea to have fuel coming close to engine in flight.
Ofcourse PAF is class apart. So they can manage.

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

With 50 JF17 how it can be backbone today?

you never know what they think

what do you think their af backbone is J-7 bcoz they have 186 of them.

 

[sayareakd]

here is what happen when things go wrong in mid air refueling

 

[sayareakd]

 

[sayareakd]

Is it true that JF17 has less speed then LCA ?

JF 17 Top speed: 1,296 km/h
LCA Top speed: 1,920 km/h

 

[p2prada]

It should be very similar speeds.

 

[ersakthivel]

Is it true that JF17 has less speed then LCA ?

JF 17 Top speed: 1,296 km/h
LCA Top speed: 1,920 km/h

The JF-17 you quoted as 1296 km/h is the top speed at sea level(for tejas it is 1350 km per hour),

The tejas top speed quoted as 1920 km/h is at 50000 ft, i.e at ceiling altitude.

Jf-17 too will have similar top speeds, mach 1.6 as per some reports.

For tejas it is also mach 1.6 now post IOC-2(some report pegs this top speed as mach 1.4 ), old HAL web page said that it's design top speed at 5000o ft(altitude ceiling) is mach 1.8.

So if this mach 1.8 mach is achieved at FOC , tejas may have better topspeeds, but not by any significant measure,

The difference is nothing much in terms of their capabilities in combat.