ISRO General News and Updates

[Alamarathan]

Used for nglv ?

Don't know, @Vamsi @Swesh might have some idea

 

[Vamsi]

Used for nglv ?

uprated LVM3 for payload gain, some 400-500Kgs

 

[Swesh]

Used for nglv ?

Nglv is currently just on paper

 

[Swesh]

@THESIS THORON why sad nglv is just announced do you know that GSLV mk3 was launched to 4ton in 2014 it was time when they announced sce200 almost a decade has passed since then but where is sce200?

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

@THESIS THORON why sad nglv is just announced do you know that GSLV mk3 was launched to 4ton in 2014 it was time when they announced sce200 almost a decade has passed since then but where is sce200?

Testing phase near completion i believe it's ready just going through some last minute checks see the previous comments of @Vamsi

 

[Swesh]

Testing phase near completion i believe it's ready just going through some last minute checks see the previous comments of @Vamsi

Testing phase near completion i believe it's ready just going through some last minute checks see the previous comments of @Vamsi

Actual launch upto 6ton is still far even 5.5 is still far but we still have satellites in that category ready to launch

 

[Swesh]

Testing phase near completion i believe it's ready just going through some last minute checks see the previous comments of @Vamsi

And isro looking for Russian engine rd191 creates doubt that something is wrong or they have some doubt about sce200

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

And isro looking for Russian engine rd191 creates doubt that something is wrong or they have some doubt about sce200

I beleive it's a test thy want to see how close sce-200 is to rd191 and how much better it is

 

[Swesh]

I beleive it's a test thy want to see how close sce-200 is to rd191 and how much better it is

Sure isro budget allows it???

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Ridiculous....then why did they launch !!!

GSAT-6 Satellite Launched In 2015 Largely Unutilised: Centre’s Auditor CAG – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

so let me get this straight, due to a lack of proper communication and laziness of isro and drdo we are going to lose nearly 600 crore rupees or 72 million dollars because we were unable to utilise the gsat 6 for half its service life and even now we can only use 20% of its full capacity and nobody is getting punished or sacked for wasting such a huge amount of taxpayer's money.
what the FFFFFFFFFFFF,
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It looks like the case of a delay by vendor/contractor they hired than a corruption case.

Like happening to Rajasthan Refinery for which HPCL and Tata Projects and not their vendor companies will get blamed as they are not answerable to government directly.

ISRO FAILED TO LAUNCH THE SATELLITE ON TIME (A DELAY OF NEARLY 1 YEARS)

That's a little margin per Indian standards. There is already a huge huge gap between country's yearly launch requirements vs country's yearly launch capacity. Given what other projects suffered due to this, GSAT-6 was "very much on time".

WHO'S FAULT IS THIS, WHO FAILED INTO ENTERING A MoU WITH DRDO ON TIME, WHO FAILED TO FORM A PROPER PLAN, IT WAS ISRO MY FRIEND.

No, you can't blame anyone delays in technical issues and agreements.

Clearly in this case, ISRO wasn't prepared for GSAT-6 but was made to launch it by higher authorities, fcking up entire project, just like my manager loves to hand me over 3 additional projects at end of every month with no additional resources which don't only get fcked up themselves given lack of advance planning but screw up my properly running older projects too.

Used for nglv ?

No, LVM3-SC.

 

[standard snowball]

It looks like the case of a delay by vendor/contractor they hired than a corruption case.

Like happening to Rajasthan Refinery for which HPCL and Tata Projects and not their vendor companies will get blamed as they are not answerable to government directly.

That's a little margin per Indian standards. There is already a huge huge gap between country's yearly launch requirements vs country's yearly launch capacity. Given what other projects suffered due to this, GSAT-6 was "very much on time".

No, you can't blame anyone delays in technical issues and agreements.

Clearly in this case, ISRO wasn't prepared for GSAT-6 but was made to launch it by higher authorities, fcking up entire project, just like my manager loves to hand me over 3 additional projects at end of every month with no additional resources which don't only get fcked up themselves given lack of advance planning but screw up my properly running older projects too.

No, LVM3-SC.

i am not saying there was corruption, what i am saying is there was mismanagment that caused us a loss of nearly 72 million dollars
1 year delay isn't much and i am not stressing on that (it happens all the time specially in such a specialised sector), however not being able to sign a mou for nearly 5 years is a problem, and if this problem was caused due to contractors then replace those contractors.

like i said earlier isro isn't at a bigger fault drdo is, for failing to setup a ground facility for years after signing the mou, and if this delay by drdo was caused due to project mismanagment by higher ups, maybe drdo should hold those guys responsible and stop their promotion or something

 

[Swesh]

i am not saying there was corruption, what i am saying is there was mismanagment that caused us a loss of nearly 72 million dollars
1 year delay isn't much and i am not stressing on that (it happens all the time specially in such a specialised sector), however not being able to sign a mou for nearly 5 years is a problem, and if this problem was caused due to contractors then replace those contractors.

like i said earlier isro isn't at a bigger fault drdo is, for failing to setup a ground facility for years after signing the mou, and if this delay by drdo was caused due to project mismanagment by higher ups, maybe drdo should hold those guys responsible and stop their promotion or something

It was defence communication satellite they should have been keen to work on it anyway this isn't first case of non corrdination among isro and drdo I saw a vedio where this ishuee was answered by isro official it was asked by drdo official about non availability of data where isro official states that military should build a cader for scientific data which is avoided by military constantly

 

[TopWatcher]

Lower budget and multiple targets that what hurting ISRO

 

[Swesh]

It's a long vedio start it at 1.29.30 sec onward and listen to it

 

[Indx TechStyle]

however not being able to sign a mou for nearly 5 years is a problem, and if this problem was caused due to contractors then replace those contractors.

like i said earlier isro isn't at a bigger fault drdo is, for failing to setup a ground facility for years after signing the mou, and if this delay by drdo was caused due to project mismanagment by higher ups, maybe drdo should hold those guys responsible and stop their promotion or something

No, this appears like a case of individualistic failures among managers (may be they were new) than a complete organisational failure. I have worked for such a company whose tall promises and timelines of its production capacities failed Tata, L&T and their expeditors which in turn screwed promises of Indian government.

Old contractors, managers leave and join, so individual cases will continue to appear in every few year. You can't eradicate them in every case.

 

[Swesh]

ISRO intern receives death threats via email from NIT Warangal students

Sangat Nayak, an intern at ISRO Ahmedabad, on Monday filed a complaint against two of his college mates from NIT Warangal for sending him a death threat via email

www.etvbharat.com

ISRO intern receives death threats via email from NIT Warangal students

Sangat Nayak, an intern at ISRO Ahmedabad, on Monday filed a complaint against two of his college mates from NIT Warangal for sending him a death threat via email.

Read more at: https://www.etvbharat.com/english/n...t-warangal-students/na20221227195501971971416

 

[standard snowball]

No, this appears like a case of individualistic failures among managers (may be they were new) than a complete organisational failure. I have worked for such a company whose tall promises and timelines of its production capacities failed Tata, L&T and their expeditors which in turn screwed promises of Indian government.

Old contractors, managers leave and join, so individual cases will continue to appear in every few year. You can't eradicate them in every case.

i am not denying the possibility of individualistic failures, however in other similar companies individuals responsible for such delays have their promotions delayed or in some cases are even demoted (specially when such a behaviour caused your client a loss of 72 million ducking dollars), but no such thing happens in DRDO ever.
lets not act naive we all know about the lack luster work culture of the likes of DRDO.
also when an orginisation constantly keeps failing at delivering its promises (literally damn near every DRDO project gets delayed) one has to wonder is it really an individualistic failure or an orginisational failure.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

but no such thing happens in DRDO ever.
lets not act naive we all know about the lack luster work culture of the likes of DRDO.

also when an orginisation constantly keeps failing at delivering its promises (literally damn near every DRDO project gets delayed) one has to wonder is it really an individualistic failure or an orginisational failure.

Well, have you ever worked on DRDO to let us know their lack-luster "culture"?

I have worked in and with multiple related organizations and firms across India and by a great far, BARC, NTPC, DRDO, Tata, L&T and other PSU guys are far far competent than any organisation in India. Indeed I can guarantee that I have never seen faults and delays on their behalf but on those of their vendors/bodies they are dependent on.

India is a newbie in this era of multispectral advances and industrialization and it's delays & failures are a collective representation of India's situation than an organisation.

DRDO being "lethargic" in delivering its "promises" is nothing more than an online perception made by fanboys who indeed have never looked into micromanagement of a street light project of a colony.

Every delay or fault has an RCA and an allegation without RCA is last thing to be bothered about since people who do it without RCA are generally internet crowd who are not competent in engineering or familiar with problems.
"Everyone knows about DRDO's lack luster culture" is a nonsensical thing to begin with given that even an incompetent person should know that DRDO would hand over contracts and not build a station on it's own.

And if you would dig deep, you will find that it could have been a fault of not even vendor but material provider or even exporting agency. Such problems do occur all the time.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Isro human space foray set for next step
On the Chandrayaan-3 mission, Somnath said that ISRO was looking at a launch window around June-July this year

Credit: Special arrangement

In another four months, India would take its first step to send a human to space with ISRO launching its maiden crew module abort mission by April-May followed by a second such mission after three months and an unmanned mission by 2023 end, clearing the decks for the much awaited 2024 voyage to send an Indian to space.

The next year would see two more abort missions – four such missions are planned to ensure complete crew safety, which is central to the ambitious plan – and a second unmanned mission before a crew of one or two Indian Air Force officers would take a flight to space in an indigenous spacecraft four decades after Wing Commander Rakesh Sharma, who flew in a Russian craft.

"The first abort mission (TV-D1) would be happening around April-May followed by another such mission (TV-D2) three months later. There will be an unmanned mission by the end of the year. Next year, there will be two more abort missions and a second unmanned mission before human space flight,” S Somnath, chairperson of the Indian Space Research Organisation said at a press conference on the sidelines of the 108th session of the Indian Science Congress.

“It is not like sending a satellite to orbit. We cannot take chances when it comes to human beings. We are being cautious and careful. Globally it took about 10 years for countries to develop human space flight capability, which we are doing in four years.”

The ISRO chairman flagged the lack of industrial ecosystem for the space sector as one of the key reasons behind the delays in realising the manned flight mission.

For instance, the space agency needed crucial environmental control and life support systems for the crew module but could not import them because the imported systems were coming with exorbitant price tags and there were no Indian versions available. The ISRO scientists have to develop the systems in-house.

On the Chandrayaan-3 mission, Somnath said that ISRO was looking at a launch window around June-July this year. “All the tests to ruggedise the payload have been completed. The satellite is fully integrated. The orbiter, lander and rover are ready and we are looking at the right slot for the launch by GSLV-MK-III. The next best days are coming in June-July,” he said.

The ISRO chairman said the second development flight of the Small Satellite Launch Vehicle (SSLV) will happen next month. The SSLV flight would be used to test a space-based aircraft monitoring system.

"The ADS-B receiver gets all the details of an aircraft. Currently, the Air Traffic Controller gets these signals, but there are certain blind spots -- about 30% of airspace across the globe -- to which ATC doesn't have access. Now, we have developed a space-based ADS-B technology that would be tested on the SSLV flight," said D K Singh, Deputy Director, Advanced Technology Area, Space Application Centre, Ahmedabad.

The first flight of SSLV in August 2022 was unsuccessful. Once the SSLV is realised, India would be in a position to launch satellites weighing up to 500 kg to low earth orbits within weeks.

Singh said ISRO was also working on a special high-throughput satellite that would expose Indians to the in-flight browsing experience, but it would take another year before the satellite would be ready for launch.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Isro human space foray set for next step
On the Chandrayaan-3 mission, Somnath said that ISRO was looking at a launch window around June-July this year

Credit: Special arrangement

Takeaways:

1. First abort test in April-May and second in September-October before G1 mission by year end. Same pattern of two abort tests before G2 mission next year.
2. Crew for Gaganyaan are essentially Indian Air Personnel, confirms officially.
3. Chandryaan-3 all ready for launch. Launch window falls in June-July and a delay is unlikely unless launcher assembly takes time.
4. SSLV this February.
5. Will carry a payload ADS-B to collect aircraft details from 30% of global airspace which is not covered by ATC

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