Is China About to Get Its Military Jet Engine Program Off the Ground?

[shiphone]

well i have posted u the link earliaer & i got this report from ASIAN MILITARY REVIEW.com this is a respectful site



THEN PLZ prove ur claims with citations/ sources ,let everyone including me see the source from where ur posting these datas

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WTF ,man a regiment has 30 + jet , ....man !!!!! well chinese really making aircrafts squadrons into TANK regiment


now what the hell does u want to prove by posting these pics man ???
A fat blob faced chinese man ]

ignorant or arrogant? a J6 regiment had 50+ birds, and a J7 regiment used to have aroud 38 birds....pity, a guy who know nothing pretend knowing everything...

and I could tell you ,there is another J11A regiment (not J11B) owing 38 birds coz it is the seed unit.

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if u can't read the info in the pic,just leave it.... there are too many things you don't know....

 

[Drsomnath999]

OMG, please... you had a thread about WS10, don't u ? would you go there to find the answer? the link is in my first post in this thread.

The first batch of J-11B entered the service with PLAAF 1st Division in late 2007. this unit has 30 single seat J11B powered by AL31 ,and 4 J11BS with WS10

the rest 4 units are all equipped J11B/BS with WS10
they are :2 regiments from 19th and 30th PLAAF Div, 111 PLAAF Brigade ;1 regiment from 8th PLANAF Div

well the only thing i see as usual in every forum is same old PICS but the main thing we could nt come to conclusion that what number of J11b is having
WS10 engines until & unless u post every jet's pics from those squadron .

 

[ice berg]

well the only thing i see as usual in every forum is same old PICS but the main thing we could nt come to conclusion that what number of J11b is having
WS10 engines until & unless u post every jet's pics from those squadron .

If you couldnt recognise the reg. what is the purpose of showing you the pictures?

You will go again like hey, who is the fat guy?

Even in the article you posted ,they stated that 20 % are already converted with chinese engines.

The latest jet engine import numbers suggest Chinese engines may now power roughly 20% of the country's most modern fighters and strike aircraft as well as the JF-17 fighters it is exporting to Pakistan

 

[Drsomnath999]

only professional spy can provide evidence u need....btw,pics of J10b ,J11b & J15 with ws 10a arent enough for military fans like us?

well not enough for rational fanboys like us .
U need some reliable info about whats the number of jets which has WS 10 engines .IS it so confidential that a spy would provide evidence for those infos
Oh common

com'on,he is not a footman....whats the matter whether his face fat or not....

well i am least bothered about he is fat or not ,but i didnt understand what s the point of posting that pics

 

[badguy2000]

so u say canards are obsolete & detrimental for aerodyanamics ,if thats the case then why have u add canards in ur 5th gen fighters & j15

well, adding small canard is dotrimental to Flanker',not to anyone.

as for J15 ans SU33, small canard is a hedge between aero_performance and ship-landing performance.

 

[Drsomnath999]

ignorant or arrogant? a J6 regiment had 50+ birds, and a J7 regiment used to have aroud 38 birds....pity, a guy who know nothing pretend knowing everything...

what PITY ,infact i call it funny ,tell me whats the strength of usual SQUADRON in any airforce ???around 12 -25 if chinese have different squadron strength having a strentgh of more than 30 jets in a squadron it is really amazing

and I could tell you ,there is another J11A regiment (not J11B) owing 38 birds coz it is the seed unit.

no need to tell me man ,keep it urselves

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if u can't read the info in the pic,just leave it.... there are too many things you don't know....

well sorry i really coulnt understand what do u want to convey through that FAT A$$ guys pics .SERIOUSLY !!!!

 

[Drsomnath999]

If you couldnt recognise the reg. what is the purpose of showing you the pictures?

You will go again like hey, who is the fat guy?

SERIOUSLY !!!
HOW COULD U KNOW WHTHER THAT IS j11B OR su 30/27 ,COMMON TELL ME

Even in the article you posted ,they stated that 20 % are already converted with chinese engines.

The latest jet engine import numbers suggest Chinese engines may now power roughly 20% of the country's most modern fighters and strike aircraft as well as the JF-17 fighters it is exporting to Pakistan

what!!! CHINESE engines are on Jf 17
Will u plz stop bitchin .PLLZZ

 

[Drsomnath999]

well, adding small canard is dotrimental to Flanker',not to anyone.

as for J15 ans SU33, small canard is a hedge between aero_performance and ship-landing performance.

B.S
IAF SU 30 mki had canards & canards have extra advantage in generating lift & high AoA .

 

[ice berg]

SERIOUSLY !!!
HOW COULD U KNOW WHTHER THAT IS j11B OR su 30/27 ,COMMON TELL ME


what!!! CHINESE engines are on Jf 17
Will u plz stop bitchin .PLLZZ

You posted the article, rofl.

If you dont believe it why post it in the first place.

Make up your mind.

And it is still pointless to post pics when you cant recognise the reg.

 

[Drsomnath999]

You posted the article, rofl.

If you dont believe it why post it in the first place.

Make up your mind.

the article also says chinese buy AL 31f engines would u beleive it

i posted the article not written it

And it is still pointless to post pics when you cant recognise the reg.

It is pointless to reply an idiot like U ,

 

[p2prada]

A single Chinese air division has 3 regiments of aircraft. Each regiment of aircraft have 3 squadrons of aircraft. So, a single regiment would consist of 36-54 aircraft. A single air base may have up to 120 aircraft.

A division need not have the same aircraft. But I guess a regiment has the same aircraft.

 

[shiphone]

what PITY ,infact i call it funny ,tell me whats the strength of usual SQUADRON in any airforce ???around 12 -25 if chinese have different squadron strength having a strentgh of more than 30 jets in a squadron it is really amazing


no need to tell me man ,keep it urselves

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well sorry i really coulnt understand what do u want to convey through that FAT A$$ guys pics .SERIOUSLY !!!!

LOL ..you'd better educate youself the basic knowledge about the AF unit formation of the world ...such as former Soviet Union AF.

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some OT here:

the IAF list from the same PDF...

I'v got some puzzle here:
1. does IAF own 69 Mig29? or 62 (61 after the crash in the Oct)?
2. dose IAF own 57 M2K? or 51 by end of 2011,and 49 by now?
3. which Sq. is still operating the Mig23? ??
4. as we know ,7 Sq(Sq. No. 2, 8, 20, 24, 30, 31, 102) of Su30MKI has been formed by Mar 2012, and I could do the same maths as you did...16*7=112,not 130....is it?-----I'm kidding. the number of MKI will be more than 112 in certain.

 

[Drsomnath999]

LOL ..you'd better educate youself the basic knowledge about the AF unit formation of the world ...such as former Soviet Union AF.

well i am talking about universal strength of a squadron which is taken as 12 -25 , i am not talking about AF unit formation

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some OT here:

the IAF list from the same PDF...

I'v got some puzzle here:
1. does IAF own 69 Mig29? or 62 (61 after the crash in the Oct)?
2. dose IAF own 57 M2K? or 51 by end of 2011,and 49 by now?
3. which Sq. is still operating the Mig23? ??
4. as we know ,7 Sq(Sq. No. 2, 8, 20, 24, 30, 31, 102) of Su30MKI has been formed by Mar 2012, and I could do the same maths as you did...16*7=112,not 130....is it?-----I'm kidding. the number of MKI will be more than 112 in certain.

u forgot that these article doesnt say at the end of 2011 but by 2011 ,how the heck would the author know which jet crashed or not

I had calculated each squadron's strentgh as 18 not 16 u fat mug ,if that the case 18 *7 = 126 & WTF does article states 130 ,GOT it & now stop wasting my time

 

[shiphone]

once again ,read my question? and answer if possible.

1,by the end of 2011 ,how many Mig29s does IAF has? 69 or 61
2.By the end of 2011, how many M2K does IAF has? 57 or 51
3.By the end of 2011, which squadron is using these 14 Mig23?
4.By the end of 2011,IAF had 6 sq only...the No 102 is raised in Mar 2012,and all 16-18 MKIs are received by batches within months. you can't count 130 yet

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16-18 MKI in IAF Sq, doesn't mean it is the same in PLAAF J11 Regiment or Brigade...

in fact , the jet numbers vary in different PLAAF regiments

J11 Regiment: 24(normally)
J10 Regiment: 28
J7 Regiment: 36 or 28
JH7 Regiment: 24
H6 Regiment: 18

 

[Drsomnath999]

once again ,read my question? and answer if possible.

1,by the end of 2011 ,how many Mig29s does IAF has? 69 or 61
2.By the end of 2011, how many M2K does IAF has? 57 or 51
3.By the end of 2011, which squadron is using these 14 Mig23?
4.By the end of 2011,IAF had 6 sq only...the No 102 is raised in Mar 2012,and all 16-18 MKIs are received by batches within months. you can't count 130 yet

OMG plz read my reply again what i told
the article doent say end of 2011 but by mid of 2011 plz comprehend that PDF properly PLZZ i am begging u .
Ok i would post another 2012 source of that same website later OK happy now

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16-18 MKI in IAF Sq, doesn't mean it is the same in PLAAF J11 Regiment or Brigade...

in fact , the jet numbers vary in different PLAAF regiments

J11 Regiment: 24(normally)
J10 Regiment: 28
J7 Regiment: 36 or 28
JH7 Regiment: 24
H6 Regiment: 18

ok BOSS my mistake i fail to realize that .LEAVE IT
shall we post something related to thread

 

[shiphone]

OMG plz read my reply again what i told
the article doent say end of 2011 but by mid of 2011 plz comprehend that PDF properly PLZZ i am begging u .
Ok i would post another 2012 source of that same website later OK happy now

obviousely, it's not a reliable source...there are too many simple mistakes both in IAF and PLAAF strength lists.

even in mid of 2011, IAF has no 69 Mig29 or 57 M2K...and definitely no 130 MKI

 

[Drsomnath999]

obviousely, it's not a reliable source...there are too many simple mistakes both in IAF and PLAAF strength lists.

well dont worry u want reliable source , I would post it later ,But the fact is it is very difficult for any source to post the exact no of planes as some crash / decommissioned ,so dont expect pin point accuracy from them PLZZZ

 

[p2prada]

We had 69 Mig-29s at the time the article was written. MKIs must be quite accurate. Officially 137 were in squadrons by the end of the 2011.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

difference is that China will invest 10 billion USD on R&D of domestic engine industry while India will invest 10 billion USD on importing foreign bird such as rafale ...

Which is better?? Buying and getting TOT or spending decades to develop?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

difference between Su-27 and J-11b :
new Radar (Mechanically scanned or PESA ..??), new Cockpit (understandable), new MAWS, new WS-10 Engines although quality sucks (too much for self pride) ...

Most real warplanes radar cost 8-12 million per plane. How good will a radar be
in a 20 million dollar plane?