INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

[Kunal Biswas]

I am following Indian Army Fan page, They post these pics..

Hope to see an unedited version with just simple water marks..

Kunal sir can you get one without all those things written on the pic.

 

[arnabmit]

@Kunal Biswas Why do we not use drum mags for INSAS LMG? I have a drum mag design of 100 rounds that is half the size of a 100 round C-Mag which takes 30 sec to load up.

 

[sayareakd]

@<a href="http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/member.php?u=4163" target="_blank">Kunal Biswas</a> Why do we not use drum mags for INSAS LMG? I have a drum mag design of 100 rounds that is half the size of a 100 round C-Mag which takes 30 sec to load up.

this carry 150 and double drum for better balance

 

[Kunal Biswas]

INSAS is very strictly as per GSQR, So you see everything on INSAS as per GSQR, In IA LMG was always meant for Magazine where as need for GPMG only came after Kargil War, Where 30rnd mag was found insufficient for continues suppressive fire..

May be if someone make a new GSQR keeping suppressive fire in mind may think of it..

@Kunal Biswas Why do we not use drum mags for INSAS LMG? I have a drum mag design of 100 rounds that is half the size of a C-Mag which takes 30 sec to load up.

 

[arnabmit]

Isn't this too bulky to be used by infantry?

this carry 150 and double drum for better balance

 

[sayareakd]

Isn't this too bulky to be used by infantry?

each soldier carry 100 bullet and INSAS, so this is not much weight. Plus 30 round magazine means only 5 magazine and this single drum will do the trick.

 

[arnabmit]

Imagine walking 20 miles on patrol with a 4kg (?) INSAS with a 2kg 150 round drum mag attached to it...

Anyway, would we need loaders at base?

[video=youtube_share;qjYKcv0d1zA]http://youtu.be/qjYKcv0d1zA[/video]

each soldier carry 100 bullet and INSAS, so this is not much weight. Plus 30 round magazine means only 5 magazine and this single drum will do the trick.

 

[sayareakd]

Imagine walking 20 miles on patrol with a 4kg (?) INSAS with a 2kg 150 round drum mag attached to it...

Anyway, would we need loaders at base?

[video=youtube_share;qjYKcv0d1zA]http://youtu.be/qjYKcv0d1zA[/video]

para commandos run 40 km with 40 kg weight every day. So squad of 11 people two guys have INSAS LMG wont be much.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

X-15 50 round drum magazine

Its shorter in length compare to a 30rnd Mag of AR-15 / INSAS LMG,


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Size of the Magazine and Weight are primary concern, A solution balanced between these two factor may be a good choice..

Isn't this too bulky to be used by infantry?

Imagine walking 20 miles on patrol with a 4kg (?) INSAS with a 2kg 150 round drum mag attached to it...

Anyway, would we need loaders at base?

[video=youtube_share;qjYKcv0d1zA]http://youtu.be/qjYKcv0d1zA[/video]

para commandos run 40 km with 40 kg weight every day. So squad of 11 people two guys have INSAS LMG wont be much.

 

[bhramos]

REVIEWS: INSAS assault rifle

 

[Kunal Biswas]

A very neutral view, I wish it also have added the rifle twist ratio and should have put image of new improved INSAS 1B1..

Thanks for sharing..

REVIEWS: INSAS assault rifle

 

[Shaitan]

REVIEWS: INSAS assault rifle

The best and most detailed review is from a guy from Indians for guns forum.

http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?p=94020

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Should also mention the review was on older INSAS 1B1 back 2010..

The best and most detailed review is from a guy from Indians for guns forum.

Indians For Guns "¢ View topic - The INSAS 5.56mm Rifle- A Technical Treatise

 

[cobra commando]

40mm UBGL ( 5.56 mm INSAS RIFLE) INDIA - YouTube

 

[Shaitan]

Should also mention the review was on older INSAS 1B1 back 2010..

What is the difference between that and the new one. Other than the fact it's black?

Do you have any article, etc. detailing the differences?

 

[Shaitan]

The build looks the same. Only difference is the coloring.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I have mentioned this when i posted these photos..

Its in the thread few pages back..

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The topic was discussed before >>

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/indian-army/43826-insas-rifle-lmg-carbine-3.html

INSAS 1B1 at Range.. :cool2:

1B1 advantage over 1B :

1. Better metallurgy than 1B which helps reduce the weight..
2. Black fiber body..
3. Rifle Quality improved..
4. Sound reduction..

What is the difference between that and the new one. Other than the fact it's black?

Do you have any article, etc. detailing the differences?

The build looks the same. Only difference is the coloring.

 

[Shaitan]

What is 1B?

These are all manufacturer stamped/classified 1B1.

 

[Shaitan]

How did they reduce the sound? What design changes reduced the overall sound of the rifle?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Already dicussed on Page 4 ..

Though will add to erase confusion :

1B ( Field classification non official ) = 1B ( Official classification ) = 1B
Improved 1B ( Field classification non official ) = 1B1 ( Official classification ) = Older 1B1
Improved 1B1 ( Field classification non official ) = 1B1 ( Official classification ) = improved 1B1

This is 1B1 :

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This is improved 1B :

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Original 1B ( 1999 ) :

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After new Rifle ( black ), older one is known as Improved 1B not 1B1..

The only change between 1B to Improve 1B is OFB rail for optics rest is same so it cannot given same designation as 1B1..

Where as 1B1 ( Black ) has different metallurgy, Improved quality, Black furniture, Reduced weight, Increase reliability, etc etc, Many modifications..

What is 1B?

These are all manufacturer stamped/classified 1B1.